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DanielLB
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Aug 28 2012, 10:03pm
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Great thinking! He does look like Bifur - especially the beard.
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I love speculation! 
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DarkJackal
Rohan
Aug 28 2012, 10:08pm
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Seems like Lothenon and I agree...
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...about the new key's runes. They just need to update the post with their find 
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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor
Aug 28 2012, 10:36pm
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Prosthetic hands. Worst. design. choice. ever.
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Carne
Tol Eressea
Aug 28 2012, 10:38pm
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They're supposed to look like Tolkien's dwarves, not just short people, hence the big noses, bulky frame etc. If they had included all this but ignored the hands then they would have looked ridiculously tiny.
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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor
Aug 28 2012, 10:43pm
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But the hobbits were essentially treated as
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Short people, though with big feet and ears. They didn't bother putting big hands on them, and it worked just fine.
I think the dwarven prosthetic should have been toned down overall, for face and hands. That would have made everything easier, and more naturalistic.
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Carne
Tol Eressea
Aug 28 2012, 10:45pm
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But that's pretty much what they are, short people.
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They only have the big feet, so there's no reason to enhance anything else.
The dwarves have big costumes, beards and so on, so they have to compensate for that.
Same reason Ian McKellen has a prosthetic nose, because his beard "eats" away the face.
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TomthePilgrim
Rohan
Aug 28 2012, 10:55pm
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I found a better site for dwarf runes . . . I too came up with ROTHERHO . . .
BROTHERHOOD makes perfect sense . . . we can't see the B, nor the OD.
Good catch!
The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began
Now far ahead the Road has gone
And I must follow, if I can
"Thorin sat up with a start. 'Something is not right,' he muttered to himself as he stood up and
looked towards the mirror . . . . . . . . . 'Durin's bones', he gasped, 'what's happened to my beard?'"
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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor
Aug 28 2012, 10:57pm
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I have seen many people in real life (and in films) with real beards and real noses
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And their noses usually look just fine...and if they have prominent noses already (as Stott, McTavish and many of the other dwarf actors already do) then it more than holds its own against the beard.
I think this is an example of over-thinking the design, where that over-think ends up having a negative impact on the overall look. Better for the dwarves to look like very short bearded humans than strange swollen cartoonish figures that have been assaulted by some evil and incompetent plastic surgeon.
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TomthePilgrim
Rohan
Aug 28 2012, 10:58pm
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Your production photo pillar says "Kingdom".
And the picture from comic-con means exactly what it says : "Welcome my sister sons to comic con"
This exercise caused me to discover my dwarven alphabet examples were not quite accurate.
I've found I newer, more accurate one . . . Bring 'em on! 
The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began
Now far ahead the Road has gone
And I must follow, if I can
"Thorin sat up with a start. 'Something is not right,' he muttered to himself as he stood up and
looked towards the mirror . . . . . . . . . 'Durin's bones', he gasped, 'what's happened to my beard?'"
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imin
Valinor
Aug 28 2012, 11:20pm
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They all have late stage of acromegaly :P //
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grinman
Rivendell
Aug 29 2012, 2:01am
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The key here is FALSE beards. Real beards don't add volume to the face the same as a false beard, being that the false beard is usually part of an appliance that's glued onto the face. That adds a lot more volume than a natural beard would... not to mention the hair itself.
Now, having said that, I agree that some of the noses and facial prostheses are overdone. It's one thing to have a slightly larger nose (Gandalf) to offset the volume of the beard versus having a ridiculously large nose.
Though, if Dwarves live to great age and have the same aging tendencies that humans do, their noses and ears would keep growing as they age. So, older dwarves would have much larger noses and ears. Which, it seems, is the case with many of them.
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Earl
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Aug 29 2012, 6:07am
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I'm in touch with Ryszard and I keep sending him links to images and our board discussions (when stuff originates on here) with a brief summary of what I'm talking about for context.
As English is not his first language, he sort of paraphrases what I send him. So really I've never written any articles on there though my name pops up in a few... it's all his work
The Plan 9 Interview... in celebration of the 10th anniversary of the release of The Fellowship of the Ring.
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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor
Aug 29 2012, 6:18am
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Since the production probably did not want this list to leak, there is no incentive for them to confirm its authenticity.
So, it may be a fake, or it may not be.
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DanielLB
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Aug 29 2012, 7:29am
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I just wish the hands didn't look so fake. The rest of the Dwarf designs that we have seen don't really bother me.
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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor
Aug 29 2012, 2:57pm
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I otherwise love the look of most of the dwarves we have seen thus far, barring Kili.
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