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Lacrimae Rerum
Hithlum
Aug 27 2012, 1:02pm
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I wasn't suggesting they were playing knock and run
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Calling in on Radagast is clearly implied. Setting up camp for weeks on end or setting about searching for such a well travelled chap to the degree that the reader should believe he has gone missing is, to mind mind not. This latter was the context of the term "searching" in the conversation here.
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Lacrimae Rerum
Hithlum
Aug 27 2012, 1:07pm
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This same logic would therefore mean that
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Any character whose final death/ fate is not mentioned in the text should, at the moment of their final mention in the text, be deemed to have gone missing.
I rather think that the texts are, as we are given to understand, written from the spheres of knowledge of the hobbits. There is nothing odd about them not knowing and/or not mentioning the follow up details of every minor character in the tales.
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Lacrimae Rerum
Hithlum
Aug 27 2012, 1:12pm
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Why should he be expected to be at home?
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Without appointment?
In the three short mentions of Radagast in TH/LOTR we know he travels hundreds of miles north, west and south of Rhosghobel. I don't understand It should seem odd that he is not at home and certainly don't think Tolkien offers enough suggestion of this for most readers to be intended to see this as a clear explanation of his status.
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Elvenhome
Aug 27 2012, 4:13pm
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That is your definition of 'searching'
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Calling in on Radagast is clearly implied. Setting up camp for weeks on end or setting about searching for such a well travelled chap to the degree that the reader should believe he has gone missing is, to mind mind not. This latter was the context of the term "searching" in the conversation here.
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I never stated or implied that the scouts searched for Radagast "for weeks on end". Rather, I envision a quick search of the area to confirm that the Wizard isn't around.
While it is true that Tolkien had written that Gandalf was the only Istari who successfully completed his mission in Middle-earth and returned to Valinor, the Professor did rethink his position in later years. He never wrote of Radagast taking ship into the West with the Ring-bearers; however, there is some reason to think that he might have simply taken another ship at a different point in time, unrecorded in the annals.
'Thus spake Ioreth, wise-woman of Gondor: The hands of the king are the hands of a healer, and so shall the rightful king be known.' - Gandalf the White
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Lacrimae Rerum
Hithlum
Aug 27 2012, 5:34pm
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And not yours, but that was the definition implied in the origin of the sub thread - a search to the extent that him not being there ought reasonably to tell the reader that he has "gone missing" and remains so for the duration of the events of LOTR (if not for ever).
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Aug 27 2012, 9:18pm
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I hadn't realised this topic was still going on
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I've not got much else to say, so I'll shake your hand and just agree to disagree. 
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