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TomthePilgrim
Rohan


Aug 21 2012, 9:51pm

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Standard PJ and Co. [In reply to] Can't Post

"How else can we cut down on the massive number of characters in these books?"
"We don't need Radagast . . . Gandalf can talk to a moth, the moth can talk to eagle and the eagle can rescue Gandalf . . ."

SERIOUSLY? A moth travels hundreds of miles to the north to get Gwaihir for Gandalf? THHHHTTT! The moth would have got et'n . . .

Sorry . . . an old wound from the Trilogy . . . Evil


The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,

"Thorin sat up with a start. 'Something is not right,' he muttered to himself as he stood up and
looked towards the mirror . . . . . . . . . 'Durin's bones', he gasped, 'what's happened to my beard?'"


DanielLB
Immortal


Aug 21 2012, 9:52pm

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He doesn't have to die [In reply to] Can't Post

In the books Radagast didn't want to be involved with the War of the Ring. A brief mention could easily explain that Radagast disappeared after the events of Dol Guldur. No more explanation required.


Lacrimae Rerum
Grey Havens

Aug 21 2012, 9:57pm

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Where's the hundred of miles from? [In reply to] Can't Post

Surely GwaIhir isn't implied to be that far away?

LR


TheSexyBeard
Lorien

Aug 21 2012, 10:09pm

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More Wizardy than I imagined! [In reply to] Can't Post

Based of the little information we had about Radagast, I was a bit anxious about his design but I am happy to admit that I think he looks a lot better than I had originally imagined. I like his almost hermit like, ragged aperance and his Russian looking hat. From some of the early descriptions we got I assumed he'd be wearing some kind of bucket hat. Tongue

I look forward to seeing some better images.


TomthePilgrim
Rohan


Aug 21 2012, 10:10pm

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Doesn't have to be . . . [In reply to] Can't Post

. . . could be thousands.

We know that the eagles have been seen in the area of the Misty Mountains near the Carrock . . . this is hundreds of miles north of Isengard.
And, to answer your obvious next question, sure, Gwaihir could have been much closer . . . or, much farther away. Basically, it was a change from the book to the movie that I didn't see the need for, and I could not suspend the logical portion of my mind to believe that it was a likely scenario.


The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,

"Thorin sat up with a start. 'Something is not right,' he muttered to himself as he stood up and
looked towards the mirror . . . . . . . . . 'Durin's bones', he gasped, 'what's happened to my beard?'"


DanielLB
Immortal


Aug 21 2012, 10:18pm

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Quint's mention of the likeness of Radagast to St. Assisi must've reffered to his affinity to animals [In reply to] Can't Post

rather than his appearance. I don't know why, but that's what I presumed.


Lacrimae Rerum
Grey Havens

Aug 21 2012, 10:23pm

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Well up to you of course [In reply to] Can't Post

If it isn't implied/ stated I suppose I would tend towards filling in the details such that it makes sense.

Otherwise one could make up illogical off screen/ page issues for almost everything.

LR


dormouse
Half-elven


Aug 21 2012, 10:33pm

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Does it need any explanation? [In reply to] Can't Post

After all, we don't see the entire population of Middle Earth in the LotR films; presumably we just assume he's having tea with Tom and Goldberry, or showing the Dunedain how to tame squirrels or something... Wink


TomthePilgrim
Rohan


Aug 21 2012, 10:37pm

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Now that I would enjoy . . . [In reply to] Can't Post

Imagine. Tea with Tom, Goldberry and Radagast . . . . . . . . .


The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,

"Thorin sat up with a start. 'Something is not right,' he muttered to himself as he stood up and
looked towards the mirror . . . . . . . . . 'Durin's bones', he gasped, 'what's happened to my beard?'"


DesiringDragons
Lorien


Aug 21 2012, 11:07pm

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I shall walk out with you. [In reply to] Can't Post

Raddy can't die! THE MAN LIKES BUNNIES.

I mean wizard. That is is change I would not like at all. Unsure


(This post was edited by DesiringDragons on Aug 21 2012, 11:17pm)


TomthePilgrim
Rohan


Aug 21 2012, 11:16pm

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Solidarity, brother! [In reply to] Can't Post

 


The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,

"Thorin sat up with a start. 'Something is not right,' he muttered to himself as he stood up and
looked towards the mirror . . . . . . . . . 'Durin's bones', he gasped, 'what's happened to my beard?'"


Plurmo
Rohan

Aug 21 2012, 11:18pm

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Not exactly Assisi, more like the Flying Nun. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


TomthePilgrim
Rohan


Aug 21 2012, 11:22pm

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HA! [In reply to] Can't Post

The hat . . . Brilliant! Laugh


The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,

"Thorin sat up with a start. 'Something is not right,' he muttered to himself as he stood up and
looked towards the mirror . . . . . . . . . 'Durin's bones', he gasped, 'what's happened to my beard?'"


Tim
Tol Eressea


Aug 21 2012, 11:39pm

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Radagast isn't going to die, but even if he did... [In reply to] Can't Post

... he's a Maia spirit which means he'll just revert to that form and go in for a debrief (or spanking if naughty like Saruman) from Ilúvatar.

Laugh

King Arthur: You know much that is hidden oh Tim.

Tim: Quite.


DesiringDragons
Lorien


Aug 21 2012, 11:41pm

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Thanks, good point! [In reply to] Can't Post

...being reminded of that actually made me feel better.

(I keep wanting to add 'O Tim'...sorry.)


Tim
Tol Eressea


Aug 21 2012, 11:45pm

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Heh heh heh [In reply to] Can't Post


In Reply To
...being reminded of that actually made me feel better.

(I keep wanting to add 'O Tim'...sorry.)


You can add "O Tim" if you want, that's perfect! Laugh

King Arthur: You know much that is hidden oh Tim.

Tim: Quite.


Bombadil
Half-elven


Aug 22 2012, 12:14am

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As to his hat..seems like it has Ears..and it could have a Life [In reply to] Can't Post

of its own..Maybe these Ears twitch like a CAT or a Horse have the
Ability to focus sound?
Also my Feeling is he can never be Killed since if an Arrow
pierced him..he would split into a hundred small animals
MOTHS, SPARROWS, BUTERFLYS, Ferrets..etcetera.

I do think he may have other small ones living in his clothes.
Like any Magician ...would have a Pigeon up his Sleeve.

If he makes it into the Bot5A..he may be one of the Great Eagles and we only see him Transform back after the Conflict ends.
During LOTR..I feel he declared his territory to the Northern. War..giving Gandalf the Southern Regions.
How do you like Them Ideas?
Bomby


JDRobinson
Registered User

Aug 22 2012, 12:52am

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Radagast may die..... [In reply to] Can't Post

I did some comparison with a picture of Gandalf from Fellowship with the image of Radagast and the two staves look almost identical in terms of their shape and "root structure on the tip". The staff I am referring to with Gandalf is the "pre-Saruman" encounter. The best pic is with Gandalf outside (of Orthanc) standing with his staff. I don't know. To me, the bottom half looks exactly the same as Radagast's in the calendar picture.


TomthePilgrim
Rohan


Aug 22 2012, 12:53am

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ears . . . hmmmm . . . maybe. [In reply to] Can't Post

Mouse ears (see my previous post, this thread)

Moths . . . hundreds and hundreds of moths

Small things . . . hmmmmm . . . lice? fleas?

BO5A . . . he won't be at BO5A . . . he'll be tired from Dol Guldur, and he'll need a nap

well, the north is the best . . . stated by someone from WA . . . in the Great NORTHwest

K . . . I'm done now.
Thanx for the opportunity, Bomby Wink


The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,

"Thorin sat up with a start. 'Something is not right,' he muttered to himself as he stood up and
looked towards the mirror . . . . . . . . . 'Durin's bones', he gasped, 'what's happened to my beard?'"


dave_lf
Gondor

Aug 22 2012, 2:19am

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He could even hand Gandalf his staff on the way out the door [In reply to] Can't Post

Though if he's as popular as it sounds like he's expected to me, the audience may prefer a dead guy to a quitter.


MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea


Aug 22 2012, 3:21am

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love his look! [In reply to] Can't Post

a little jack sparrowish


From the bottom of the Long-Lake a dragon shall be possessed...green lights glowing out of the deep waters shall be seen where the dragon fell...reanimated shall be Smaug that was killed...and the Dark Lord will fly over Middle-Earth unopposed...raining fire down upon his enemies...


weaver
Half-elven

Aug 22 2012, 3:29am

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ha! I thought a little Davy Jonesish... [In reply to] Can't Post

...but I have pretty bad eyesight! He could look like one of my kids for all I know! :)

Weaver




Bombadil
Half-elven


Aug 22 2012, 3:33am

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Well since he Izzz. the Master of Animals he probably knows.. [In reply to] Can't Post

Warg-Speak? So he tells the Wargs... this
"This a no no.
Bad Warg?
YOU are Not happy
with your OrcRider, are you?
Adandon this mission ..Sick on your Rider..
They aren't Gunna leave Any of
yousGuys any
Bones to Jaw on?
Are they?

Thus Raddy's has the Wargs Revolt ?
on their Revoltin' Riders helping
to turn the Tide
of Bot5A..?

Afterwargs? These domestigated Wargs
All sit around Raddy as. He heals their
Warg-War-Wounds?

( Try to say That..fast?)

Jus' another BombasticBombyPost...


droidsocket
Lorien

Aug 22 2012, 4:19am

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That is what I thought [In reply to] Can't Post

Davy Jones. But I like him regardless. He looks like a wizard. Good enough for me.


MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea


Aug 22 2012, 7:02am

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he is the moth [In reply to] Can't Post

or else yes, it wouldn't make much sense why he would stay neutral during the events of LOTR's.


From the bottom of the Long-Lake a dragon shall be possessed...green lights glowing out of the deep waters shall be seen where the dragon fell...reanimated shall be Smaug that was killed...and the Dark Lord will fly over Middle-Earth unopposed...raining fire down upon his enemies...

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