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Favourite monologue in the trilogy?

Radagast-Aiwendil
Gondor


Aug 20 2012, 10:07pm

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There were some wonderful moments of extended dialogue in LOTR (Especially in the EEs), from Bilbo's summary of Hobbits to Gollum's monologue about how he was cursed and driven away at the beginning of RotK. Which was your favourite?

My personal favourite was Gandalf's lecture to Pippin in RotK, concerning the history of Gondor. Whilst the line belonged to Faramir in the books, I thought the dialogue was better suited to film Gandalf than to film Faramir. It was a great moment which helped to flesh out the story behind Gondor and the humans of Middle-Earth.

"Radagast is, of course, a worthy wizard, a master of shapes and changes of hue, and he has much lore of herbs and beasts, and birds are especially his friends."-Gandalf, The Lord of the Rings.


zarabia
Tol Eressea


Aug 21 2012, 12:38am

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Sam's "It's like in the old stories, the ones that really mattered...". It's not only very stirring in its own right, but it's beautifully used to tie the two story lines together at the end of TT. Gets me every time.


GoodGuyA
Lorien

Aug 21 2012, 1:02am

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Not entirely sure if it would count [In reply to] Can't Post

But I think Theoden's battle speech is undeniably an excellent moment of cinema. Such a grand call to action and makes the entire charge of the Rohirrim into a greater event than "Rohan arrives". The whole visual of that sequence helps as well, of course, but that scene makes me want to act out something so powerful that I literally have to belt it out across a wide open field! It's pure, unadulterated passion.


Ruinwen
Rivendell


Aug 21 2012, 2:31am

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Oh, there are so many... [In reply to] Can't Post

Wormtongue's lines to Eowyn (not really a monologue, I suppose, but she doesn't say much..)

Who knows

what you have spoken to the darkness
In bitter watches of the night, when
all your life seems to shrink, the walls
of your bower closing in about you,
like a hutch to trammel some wild thing....

So fair, so cold, like a morning of
pale spring still clinging to winter's
chill.

I loved them in the book and I thought giving them to wormtongue was inspired. Carl was great and it really gave his character an edge of insight that made him even more convincing and consequently more creepy. Love, love, love that bit.

Theoden's bit at Theodred's grave -

'Simbelmyne. Ever has it grown on the tombs of my forebearers.

Now it shall cover the grave
of my son.

Alas that these evil days should be mine.

The young perish and the old linger.

That I should live......to see the last days of my house.'

and especially when he does 'Who am I, Gamling' followed by 'Where is the horse and the rider' at Helm's Deep. I was disappointed that they didn't include more of that poem - one of my favourites - but the fabulous cinematography, the atmospheric edit and Bernard's wonderful performance make that scene an outstanding one for me. I personally think Bernard Hill was somewhat miscast as Theoden, but I can't fault his performance.

Those are the three that instantly come to mind, but I'm sure there are more.

(As you can probably tell, TTT probably my favourite of the three films.)





(This post was edited by Ruinwen on Aug 21 2012, 2:35am)


weaver
Half-elven

Aug 21 2012, 4:14am

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I like these monologue(ish) scenes:
  • The 'where is the horse and the rider" sequence -- love the delivery, love the imagery
  • Aragorn's Black Gate speech -- I like the fact that he finds a way to tell these guys facing certain death that there is something worse than that!
  • Gandalf's speech to Frodo in Moria -- not quite a monologue, since Frodo interacts with him, but it's one of the top 10 moments of the films; I was delighted that they found a way to really highlight this message and I thought moving it to Moria, right before Gandalf''s "death" was really inspired
  • Gandalf's "white shores" speech to Pippin -- ok, not quite a monologue again, but if this was an opera, it would have made a great aria!
  • The Prologue -- loved Cate Blanchett's delivery, the way they "punctuated" her words with the sound and visuals, and the way it set the stage for people to embrace what the Tale had to offer; let's face it, getting non-fans to buy into a really evil Ring that can destroy the world, along with elves and dwarves and hobbits, is not easy. One of the reasons the films worked is because of the way they set the table.


Weaver




DanielLB
Immortal


Aug 21 2012, 7:11am

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It's difficult to choose just one! [In reply to] Can't Post

Monologues seems to be the best part of the script! I agree with everyone's ideas already! Laugh


MatthewJer18
Rohan

Aug 21 2012, 7:13am

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Ian McKellen delivers this beautifully: [In reply to] Can't Post

They guard it because they have hope. Faith and fading hope that one day it will flower. That a king will come and this city will be as it once was before it fell into decay. The old wisdom that was borne out of the West was forsaken. Kings made tombs more splendid than the houses of the living and counted the names of their descent dearer than the names of their sons. Childless lords sat in aged halls musing on heraldry or in high, cold towers asking questions of the stars. And so the people of Gondor fell into ruin. The line of Kings failed, the White Tree withered, and the rule of Gondor was given over to lesser men.


Wraith Buster
Gondor


Aug 21 2012, 4:55pm

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Every monologue is amazing [In reply to] Can't Post

But I think the prologue wins the prize for me. The pacing is perfect and I love the look into the past with the earlier Elves and Isildur. They seemed to capture a slightly different atmosphere than the rest of the films where everything is happening later in ME time, and I think it steals the show. Angelic

Pedich Edhellen? Lau? Hria cuilë.

End of line.


Radagast-Aiwendil
Gondor


Aug 21 2012, 5:16pm

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You're very welcome weaver! [In reply to] Can't Post

I agree with all of your choices. Gandalf's scene with Frodo in Moria definitely contains my favourite quote, possibly of all time ("all you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you"). I also loved the "horse and the rider " moment, as well as "the white shores".

Speaking of Gandalf and Moria, Gandalf also has a very touching moment with Frodo pre-Moria in the extended edition, where he tells Frodo to trust his own strength (it also foreshadows his fall later). This would also be among my list of favourites

"Radagast is, of course, a worthy wizard, a master of shapes and changes of hue, and he has much lore of herbs and beasts, and birds are especially his friends."-Gandalf, The Lord of the Rings.


Radagast-Aiwendil
Gondor


Aug 21 2012, 5:19pm

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Whilst I didn't agree with all of the casting in the films (for example when I think of Aragorn I think of John Hurt's voice, not Mortensen's), Ian McKellen actually bettered the Gandalf that I had imagined.

"Radagast is, of course, a worthy wizard, a master of shapes and changes of hue, and he has much lore of herbs and beasts, and birds are especially his friends."-Gandalf, The Lord of the Rings.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Aug 21 2012, 5:24pm

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Best monologue in all three films, IMO.


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Theoden's bit at Theodred's grave -

'Simbelmyne. Ever has it grown on the tombs of my forebearers.

Now it shall cover the grave of my son.

Alas that these evil days should be mine.

The young perish and the old linger.

That I should live......to see the last days of my house.'





MatthewJer18
Rohan

Aug 22 2012, 1:28am

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Hugo Weaving's delivery in this scene always brings a tear to my eye.

If Aragorn survives this war, you will still be parted. If Sauron is defeated and Aragorn made king and all that you hope for comes true you will still have to taste the bitterness of mortality. Whether by the sword or the slow decay of time, Aragorn will die. And there will be no comfort for you, no comfort to ease the pain of his passing. He will come to death an image of the splendor of the kings of Men in glory undimmed before the breaking of the world. But you, my daughter, you will linger on in darkness and in doubt as nightfall in winter that comes without a star. Here you will dwell bound to your grief under the fading trees until all the world is changed and the long years of your life are utterly spent.


Istaris'staffs
Rivendell


Aug 23 2012, 7:36pm

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I think the Prologue is the best monologue, although Gollum's monologue's to himself are great. Actually I would say that the TTT one at the end was really good.


Misto
Lorien

Aug 23 2012, 8:23pm

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Ruinwen pretty much answered in my behalf. Seems like I have a LotR-Soulmate out thereWink

I really like what they made of Wormtongue (I nearly typed "Wormtail"... wrong movie, very wrong movie). There isn't that much of him in the book but the creepy movie-guy as portrayed by Brad Douriff really is one you couldn't help but notice.
Also, I like Rohan in general Smile and Theoden particularly.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Aug 23 2012, 10:18pm

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Thats a good one.

I also agree with others who appreciate the Prologue monologue by Galadriel. Evocative, epic stuff there.

Too bad much of the rest of the films are so burdened by half-baked adaptations.


Ruinwen
Rivendell


Aug 24 2012, 3:22am

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I love finding people who love the same bits - that's what's so great about this forum, and the internet in general - you're never the only one (unlike in real life - I think I'm one of only two people who have read Tolkien on the whole island!) It's great.

Yeah, I love the prologue too - partly because it's brilliant, but partly because it brings back all those memories of seeing it for the first time and falling in love. Sometimes when I haven't got time to watch the whole film, I'll just watch the prologue....

The Elrond/Arwen bit is wonderful too, both the scripting and the visuals, and the Gandalf/Frodo bit in Moria is probably the moment that could most accurately be described as inspirational, and, even to casual, non book-fan viewers, 'life-changing.'
I wouldn't be surprised if that quote - 'all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us' will live on in popular culture, long after the films' first rush of popularity has faded.


Reptile
Rivendell


Aug 25 2012, 1:02am

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Does Frodo's goodbye message to Sam count as a monologue? [In reply to] Can't Post

I found Frodo's voice-over letter to Sam, telling him that it was okay to go on living his own life a kind of a touching end to the story.

"If you listen closely, you can hear the gods laughing."


Elenorflower
Gondor


Sep 17 2012, 8:58pm

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“He used often to say there was only one Road; that it was like a great river: its springs were at every doorstep, and every path was its tributary. 'It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out of your door,' he used to say. 'You step into the Road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to.”

 
 

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