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DanielLB
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Aug 11 2012, 11:14pm
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New Interview with Peter Jackson - Hobbits, Freeman and 48fps
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The Dominion Post have a new interview up with Peter Jackson, titled Peter Jackson: King of the little people.
A snippet:
"I always liked the hobbits because you can identify with them - and I particularly can. I'm a homebody, I like to put my feet up and I like the comforts of home. I'm not much of an adventurer, so I've always related to the hobbits and the story of Bilbo Baggins is the ultimate hobbit story."
There are no new spoilers or new pieces of information.
Edit: The article pretty much confirms the title will remain An Unexpected Journey.
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TheBeerBaron
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Aug 11 2012, 11:37pm
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Interesting that it says that TABA is going to be split into two parts. What I mean is that the way it is phrased implies that it might even be called TABA part 1 and 2 also it kind of suggests that AUJ will be left intact.
I wonder if this was from what PJ said or if it's the author's own interpretation/speculation.
Great article though! Thanks
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Spaldron
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Aug 11 2012, 11:56pm
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Interesting that it says that TABA is going to be split into two parts. What I mean is that the way it is phrased implies that it might even be called TABA part 1 and 2 also it kind of suggests that AUJ will be left intact.
This is exactly what I've been saying all along, in fact this deserves its own thread.
"A single dream is more powerful than a thousand realities."
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burgahobbit
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Aug 12 2012, 1:31am
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Some interesting things I saw...
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"You don't know whether you like it until you sit down and watch a two-hour film. That's how it should be judged - not in a convention hall."
Could easily just be a random running time thrown out there for an example but you never know...
"People still write to us about LOTR. So for us it's ongoing and that's part of the joy; realising you're creating something that's entertaining people and hopefully will entertain them for years to come... long after we're all gone."
Support for the argument that PJ may go and change some parts of LOTR? Hmmmm....
(PS: Thought I'd repost this here since it's more appropriate for this thread than the next.)
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Aug 12 2012, 2:25am
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I know some people think this means that the 2nd & 3rd films will be called Part 1 & Part 2, but nothing in the article indicates that. That sentence just refers to the fact that there will now be 3 films instead of 2. PJ won't make a film that doesn't stand on it's own. Expect 3 individual titles for 3 individual films.
"All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds awake to find that it was vanity; But the dreamers of day are dangerous men. That they may act their dreams with open eyes to make it possible."
- T.E. Lawrence
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imin
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Aug 12 2012, 2:29am
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Would it really matter if they were called part 1 and part 2?
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I don't think it would. Part 1 and 2 of HP were individual movies just as much as FOTR was in relation to TTT or TTT to ROTK.
To me the name doesn't really matter, though three separate names would give the impression of them being more individual.
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Aug 12 2012, 2:33am
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To me, all I see is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. No Part 1 & 2. When the first part ends, there's no emotional build-up to the end of that film. It's simply a pause before resuming the same movie in Part 2. The Lord of the Rings films are much different. Each film is an entity onto itself, with a self contained story that has an emotional arc and conclusion, even if the overall plot continues into the next film. It feels like 3 books (or volumes) comprising a novel, wheres Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows feels like one book cut in half.
"All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds awake to find that it was vanity; But the dreamers of day are dangerous men. That they may act their dreams with open eyes to make it possible."
- T.E. Lawrence
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imin
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Aug 12 2012, 2:40am
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Its late here so we will have to just agree to disagree on this i think.
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I felt there was just as much an ending to part 1 deathly hallows as say FOTR with TTT. HP ends with voldemort finding the elder wand which he has been searching for most of the movie - emotional build up.
Just as much as frodo deciding to head off himself. The story continues just as much in each series i feel. I dont think you can watch TTT or ROTK by itself and appreciate it as much as you could had you not watched the previous films in the trilogy. Its its own film but only up to a point, same as HP.
To me the name of part 1 and 2 or having separate names doesnt change this.
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Aug 12 2012, 2:48am
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For me, when I walked out of HP7 - I felt like I had only seen half a movie (and indeed, HP7.5 feels very much like the 2 hour action climax of Part 1). I never felt that way with any of the Lord of the Rings films. They each felt like films with storylines that reached a certain resolution by the end of the 3 hours. I felt like I was waiting a year for a new chapter, not the remainder of a chapter I was in the middle of.
None of this should be taken as a slight against 'Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows'. As a matter of fact, I really like it a lot. It just feels like one movie to me, whereas I LotR feels like 3 distinct films - albeit ones comprising a complete story.
"All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds awake to find that it was vanity; But the dreamers of day are dangerous men. That they may act their dreams with open eyes to make it possible."
- T.E. Lawrence
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DanielLB
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Aug 12 2012, 9:19am
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The Desolation of Smaug and There and Back Again work fine.
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DanielLB
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Aug 12 2012, 9:20am
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A lot of people already think this
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Including myself. An Unexpected Journey will remain the same, and will end somewhere in Mirkwood. Film 2 will involve the death of Smaug. Film 3 the Battle of the Five Armies.
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DanielLB
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Aug 12 2012, 9:23am
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Part 1 and Part 2. Not the most exciting titles are they. For someone who has never read the books, nor seen the films, it doesn't give away anything. Just a bit ... bland ... (like Harry Potter).
On the other hand, The Desolation of Smaug and The Batttle of the Five Armies are for more exciting. That's going to get people more interested that part 1 and part 2.
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TheBeerBaron
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Aug 12 2012, 9:23am
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That's how I have thought that it will play out as well
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and I think that it will be magnificent!
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DanielLB
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Aug 12 2012, 9:24am
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I was also a little dubious about a third film, and dormouse spent a lot of time trying to convince me. A couple of weeks later, and I have to say that the prospect is exciting! Now I wonder why I was critical in the first place. 
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TheBeerBaron
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Aug 12 2012, 9:33am
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It's actually making me consider changing career (tax lawyer) and making films instead. I'm really interested in how the whole management process and day-to-day production and problem-solving of logistics works.
I find it fascinating.
Right now I think people may be slightly irritated about having to wait an extra six months for the conclusion, but five years from now we won't be able to imagine it any other way. Due to the original Hobbit narrative being what it is, I suspect that it might be relatively easy to just cut out all the extraneous stuff and get a "pure cut".
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Kangi Ska
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Aug 12 2012, 9:38am
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is weak as a title for the middle movie. How about "The Decimation of Smaug".
Kangi Ska Resident Trickster & Wicked White Crebain
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Kangi Ska
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Aug 12 2012, 9:43am
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must focus upon the journey home as well as The Battle of Five Armies, and I think it will. The Hobbit should be more about character and less about battle in my not-so-humble-opinion.
Kangi Ska Resident Trickster & Wicked White Crebain
Life is an adventure, not a contest.
At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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imin
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Aug 12 2012, 9:43am
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Its just not very original.
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geordie
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Aug 12 2012, 10:00am
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"Unlike the book, the movies won't be skewed towards a younger audience. Instead, Jackson says, he has blended the 'charm and humour' of The Hobbit, with the darker tone found in Return of the King's 125-page appendices (which are essentially Tolkien's expanded notes from The Hobbit)..."
*sigh.. The Hobbit wasn't 'skewed towards a younger audience' - it was made up for children; particularly, Tolkien's own children. Neither are Tolkien's Appendices 'essentially Tolkien's expanded notes from The Hobbit' - no matter how many times pJ says they are.
Boyens says: "I remember sitting with Fran and saying, 'I can't believe I'm typing the words Wizard and Hobbit again'.."
That goes for me, too.
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geordie
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Aug 12 2012, 10:03am
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- it best describes what Smaug did to the people and the surrounding countryside.
To me, 'Decimation' sounds like Smaug just did a tenth of the potential damage. (originally, decimation was what the romans did to a legion which had mutinied. Nasty!)
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DanielLB
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Aug 12 2012, 12:40pm
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It's better than part 1 though ... /
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Noria
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Aug 12 2012, 12:41pm
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As soon as Guillermo del Toro left The Hobbit project and it was announced that PJ would direct two movies, it was evident that these would be much bigger than Tolkien’s The Hobbit novel and that they would be, for better or for worse, Peter Jackson movies. I expect big monsters, lots of fighting, silly humour, some missteps but many moments of feeling, beauty and grace and a compelling and vivid realization of Middle Earth. The Hobbit will be one of the stories told in these movies but not the only one.
It will be interesting to see how the experience of making the LotR trilogy + 10 years changes PJ’s approach. Certainly the filming was organized far differently and the video logs indicate a rather larger and more organized set up.
I’ve been hoping that AUJ would be kept as a title and that the movie would stay much the same as it that panoramic image represented it, ending with Barrels Out of Bond. This interview gives me a bit of hope of that.
Ending the second movie with the death of Smaug makes sense to me, as does the title The Desolation of Smaug. But if I were naming it I’d call it The Desolation of the Dragon because a good part of the movie audience won’t know who Smaug is. But maybe that would sound too much like a martial arts film.
That leaves There and Back Again, which I really hope is retained just becasue I like it. IMO The Battle of Five Armies is a poor choice which sounds more like a video game than a movie.
Not that it matters. Anyone who loves AUJ will go to see the other two movies whatever they are called.
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DanielLB
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Aug 12 2012, 12:50pm
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I like The Desolation of the Dragon
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But it's more of a mouthful. I see what you mean by The Desolation of Smaug sounding like a video game. I'd be happy with most titles, just not part 1 and part 2.
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QuackingTroll
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Aug 12 2012, 12:50pm
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"The Hobbit: A Hobbit's Tale" could've been cool...
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The reiteration of the word "Hobbit" comes across as odd... but it makes the title different and it kinda works in a weird way. Especially if it was used for the first movie, when you consider Bilbo is telling his tale to Frodo.
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