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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor
Jul 24 2012, 1:00pm
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Jackson on changing what GdT did
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This video has the clearest statement that I have heard from Jackson about changing what Guillermo had done so that it would be a Peter Jackson movie, not a GdT movie.
http://www.dailymotion.com/...he-hobbit_shortfilms
He also makes it pretty clear that the additional material that he would like to shoot would be for extended editions, not a third movie (despite the interviewer pushing the latter idea).
'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'
The Hall of Fire
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elanesse
Rivendell
Jul 24 2012, 2:18pm
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can't find a link right now, but there exists also a second hobbiton-set of the times when GdT was the director. It looks a bit more shabby and wild.
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DanielLB
Immortal
Jul 24 2012, 2:22pm
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Really? Would be interested in seeing that link /
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elanesse
Rivendell
Jul 24 2012, 2:31pm
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a short book for children blown up into a trilogy, i don't think that works. of course there lies a lot of potential in the appendixes, but i'd prefer seeing that in the hobbit 1 or 2 or in the extended editions.
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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor
Jul 24 2012, 2:36pm
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That we will never know what that movie would have been like.
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DanielLB
Immortal
Jul 24 2012, 2:48pm
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I had never seen the article (or pictures before!)
I love the way Hobbiton is. I don't mind so much if GDT's influence has gone 
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Eruonen
Valinor
Jul 24 2012, 2:55pm
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Time to review though appendices once again! I know there is a lot there to consider.
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imin
Valinor
Jul 24 2012, 2:59pm
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Had not seen those photos either, thank you
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Its an interesting take and looks to me just like someone who took photos of the sets just when they went on holiday. I think with the hobbits having gardeners i doubt things would be that wild but then somewhere in between there and what pj has hobbiton looking like would be great to see.
Really like pj's hobbiton though so i'm glad its pj!
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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor
Jul 24 2012, 3:02pm
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That the particular shot in question was, actually, one of GDT's set. Just the word of one person who may have been speculating.
As far as I am aware, GDT never got to build a whole set.
I think that image is simply of one of the poorer, or more rural, hobbit holes in Hobbiton.
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DanielLB
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Jul 24 2012, 3:05pm
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The Herr-der-ringe article uses the same image
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And suggests it was GDT influence. I thought the same until I read the article.
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JWPlatt
Grey Havens
Jul 24 2012, 3:16pm
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[It's a real shame] That we will never know what that movie would have been like. The same could be said if Del Toro were the director about Peter Jackson's version. The grass is always greener...
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JWPlatt
Grey Havens
Jul 24 2012, 3:20pm
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What do hobbits need with a red gas can?
LOL.
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Earl
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Jul 24 2012, 3:26pm
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That pic dates back to when the Hobbiton set was just being built...
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... I don't think it was ever meant to be the Hobbiton we'd see on film.
The Plan 9 Interview... in celebration of the 10th anniversary of the release of The Fellowship of the Ring.
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shadowdog
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Jul 24 2012, 3:35pm
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While Hobbiton was being set up and wasn't the finished product?
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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor
Jul 24 2012, 3:37pm
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As we have already seen over 10+ hours of PJ's vision.
I am a bit uncomfortable with one director dominating interpretation of Tolkien. I wished to see someone else take a shot.
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SirDennisC
Half-elven
Jul 24 2012, 3:42pm
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if someone wanted to see the world burn even then.
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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor
Jul 24 2012, 3:45pm
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I think the author of that article
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Is just working off the caption from the photo, taken from that person's site.
No reason, IMO, to believe that Herr-der-ringe confirmed that speculation with a source inside the production.
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SirDennisC
Half-elven
Jul 24 2012, 3:46pm
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it does have the look of someone trying to obscure something from prying eyes.
On the other hand I like the sweeping forms -- it captures the way scrub grows on grassland. Still, we don't know how much of the greenery is rooted or moveable, if it is in place to hide something or if this is as you say a finished set. (Not to mention it appears to be taken in winter, a season we are not familiar with in the Shire.)
(This post was edited by SirDennisC on Jul 24 2012, 3:55pm)
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elanesse
Rivendell
Jul 24 2012, 3:46pm
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but it would have been interesting if GdT had more influence in the hobbit movies.
But i'm still happy that PJ came back to direct the movies, because i think they will fit to the LOTR-trilogy.
Maybe there will be remakes or new interpretations of Tolkiens world in 20-30 years...maybe as a Silmarillion-series?
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SirDennisC
Half-elven
Jul 24 2012, 3:53pm
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It sounds like a complete overhaul, which, as I've argued before, only makes sense with so many changes at the top (and of course a change in directors). It is encouraging that he seemed to take the question in stride, and answered graciously. It remains a delicate issue for some... probably more so for people who began working on the film back in 2008.
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor
Jul 24 2012, 4:57pm
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I think he clearly has great respect for Guillermo
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I just think he realizes that they have different visions. I liked his comment that only Guillermo can make a "GdT movie". It would, in my opinion, have been a mistake for Jackson to try.
I think for some people, the films would have been more enjoyable had Guillermo remained at the helm. For others, less so. I have mixed feelings. In some ways I think that GdT exhibited a stronger understanding of Tolkien and the influences that drove him than Jackson, and I was excited to see how that would have played out in the films. But Guillermo has such a strong and distinctive imagination himself that I suspect that I would have found the films to be too far afield from my own expectations of Tolkien's work. Of course, that is based on only small drips and drabs of information (primarily that notorious New Yorker article/interview) as well as what can be gleamed from Guillermo's past films. What the truth would have been, we will never know.
'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'
The Hall of Fire
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Tim
Tol Eressea
Jul 26 2012, 7:40pm
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King Arthur: You know much that is hidden oh Tim.
Tim: Quite.
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