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Ataahua
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Jul 24 2012, 3:16am
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Embrace your inner fangirl! :D /
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Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..." Dwarves: "Pretty rings..." Men: "Pretty rings..." Sauron: "Mine's better." "Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak. Ataahua's stories
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jul 24 2012, 3:34am
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I agree you are probably right, but ...
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... not only does his weapon suggest he might be Dain, he also arguably could be said to have a mohawk of sorts (look at the white strip of hair on the top of his head).
'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.' The Hall of Fire
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 24 2012, 4:27am
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...did it make more sense for the army of the dead to clean house on the Pelennor, than just take care of the bad guys controlling the ships? IMO, it was a very poor story-telling decision by PJ and company, which cheapened the entire battle of the Pelennor... Tolkien had it right there. In any event, I am still loving this vlog. And yes, I think Legolas has Orcrist!
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 24 2012, 4:38am
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As a Roman city in Britain, such as Bath. In that context, its destruction, followed by the movement of its peoples from a stone city to a wooden one, mirrors the movement of native Britons from "haunted" Roman cities, to wooden ones built right outside the abandoned city. This happened almost without fail in post-Roman Britain, from Bath to Londinium. In that sense, even if the film-makers did not intend it (though I suspect Alan Lee and John Howe did), I love the parallels. Quite appropriate.
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 24 2012, 4:39am
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That are related to the axe-in-the-head gag!
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 24 2012, 4:40am
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But is that Billy Connolly? Sure doesn't look like it. Unless they have completely submerged him beneath prosthetics, which would be a waste of his excellently dwarven face...
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 24 2012, 5:03am
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The only bit I didn't like was Rhosgobel
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Looks far too fantasy-cliche, California psychedelic memorabilia theme-shop to me, with the crystals and the strangely shaped objects, and all that. Pretty sure I once bought a cheap 3D Pink Floyd poster in a place like that... Has the mark of PJ all over it. My guess is that Howe and Lee created something less over-the-top, and PJ said "get crazier!"
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 24 2012, 5:14am
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I would almost say with certainty that what we see here in the background is Thorin's tomb. 1. It looks like a tomb. A Stone bier, similar to the one Denethor burns himself on, only with a decidedly dwarven aesthetic. 2. There are long stone lamp-posts surrounding it, with candles on top. This suggests a place that will be hallowed. 3. Ori seems to be wearing dwarven chain-mail, which must be the gear he acquires in the Lonely Mountain horde. That's a pretty massive spoiler right there...Think PJ's team missed it?
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 24 2012, 5:37am
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Looks to be Fili and Kili in a burned out Dale, judging by the Roman-looking ruin and fresco behind them, as well as clear evidence of fire.
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 24 2012, 5:43am
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Could well be. Either that, or another section of Thranduil's halls.
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Ataahua
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Jul 24 2012, 6:02am
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My overwhelming impression from this vlog
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is that the cast and crew have had a blast making these films. :)
Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..." Dwarves: "Pretty rings..." Men: "Pretty rings..." Sauron: "Mine's better." "Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak. Ataahua's stories
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 24 2012, 6:11am
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Looks like the company will certainly walk through the ruins...
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redgiraffe
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Jul 24 2012, 6:11am
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While I loved the trilogy the army of the dead sequence just wasn't handled well in my opinion. It seems like a bit of a cop out to have people who can't be killed winning the battle. It kind of lessened the importance of the rohirrim and everything else. I think they should have extended the entire thing as well. They should have had the whole stone of erech thing in there and just had it to where the army of the dead defeated the corsairs allowing Aragorn to take an army of southern gondorians on the ships with him.
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 24 2012, 6:19am
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That's definitely McCoy responding to McKellen. Gandalf: I need a horse. Radagast: Why...where are you going? Gandalf: In search of answers. Looks like this takes place in Mirkwood. Seems to me that Rhosgobel will be situated inside Mirkwood, rather than on the eaves...My guess is that Gandalf has a chat with him in the hovel, and then decides he must go to Dol Guldur at once.
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DarkJackal
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Jul 24 2012, 6:58am
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Dain or Thrain, and a Dwarven wall gathers no moss
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Billy Connolly also said Dain had tattoos on his head. I've the feeling his mohawk would be of the more radical type. But I could be wrong about the whole thing. What really intrigues me are the gouges on the walls in this shot, and even more, what looks like moss growing in them. How did these get there? If this was Erebor at the height of dwarven rule, why would they leave such blemishes in their walls long enough for moss to grow? They are stone masons. They would fix something like that if it was in a prominent spot.
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DanielLB
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Jul 24 2012, 7:16am
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I've watched enough of his Doctor Who episodes to know it's him
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Xanaseb
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Jul 24 2012, 8:47am
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Great spot DarkJackal, and I agree, it can't be at the xenith of Dwarven Erebor.. I'd hesitate a guess:
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It's some of the Iron Hill dwarves quick marching out of the gates of Erebor (could it be anywhere else? ? ) for some reason.... I'd not say Bo5A... summat else. Plus, the gouges, safe bet: Done by Smaug in his sacking of the Lonely Mountain? ?
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Xanaseb
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Jul 24 2012, 9:06am
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all this attention on Tauriel, I think the orc to her right looks rather dashing :P :P :P ;)
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but in all honesty she does look amazing. .. . . must resist fanboy-ism
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Xanaseb
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Jul 24 2012, 9:14am
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Welcome to the boards L.J Kiosq!!! don't sound so sad, there is --plenty-- yet to discuss ;) //
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Join us over at Barliman's chat all day, any day! ________________________________________________ -I am a victim of Bifurcation- (credit to Elpidha) ________________________________________________ Dwarves: 'Erebor!', 'Erebor!!', '..Erebor!' Bilbo: .. It's only a CGI model Dwarves: 'Shhhhh!'
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Xanaseb
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Jul 24 2012, 9:27am
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Now, I feel a theory coming on..... Legolas confiscates their weapons at the halls of his father, and thus he claims Orcrist...
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... now I'd be interested if Thorin will claim it back during the Bo5A for example... that'd be some amazing screenplay between the two actors IMO
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