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imin
Valinor
Jul 23 2012, 10:10pm
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As does Oin i think. Its not that i dont like the dwarves from the hobbit, i do like them apart from Kili and axe in Bifur's head but thats old news now! I just felt those linked to had the great big beard and just somehow looked dwarvish, i cant really explain it other than i loved their design and they fit my mental image.
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Valinor
Jul 23 2012, 10:11pm
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Jul 23 2012, 10:13pm
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Makes his eyes look really weird!
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They meant to make his pupils bigger or is it actually way darker in there than we see on the screen cap?
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Valinor
Jul 23 2012, 10:18pm
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Love the dwarf masks on the dwarven soldiers!
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Excellent bit of detail, which draws on descriptions in the Sil... I am now quite convinced that these particular scenes are not from Azanulbizar, nor from BofA (as we have an armourless Thorin, with the very same dwarf sword he has before the trollshaws) but from a scene depicting a defensive act against Smaug's first attack on Erebor. I also think that the reason we have been given such an extensively detailed and massive set of Dale, is that we will see a lot of action there in an extended flashback that includes Bard, etc. AND help from dwarven soldiers, who may enter Dale to help protect it from Smaug. That help from the dwarves might feed into why the people of Laketown revere Thorin and Company so much when they arrive... Otherwise, I cannot see why PJ and company would have spent so much money, time and effort on such a massive set. We will be seeing lots of drama there, I think.
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elanesse
Rivendell
Jul 23 2012, 10:18pm
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Is that also Evangeline Lily?
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SirDennisC
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Jul 23 2012, 10:20pm
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The sword we see Pace swinging around
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looks an awful lot like Hadafang (aka Arwen's Sword). Yes it was nice to see Lee Pace. I've never seen him in anything before (apparently I will this November 21 as he is named in Twilight: Breaking Dawn Pt 2.) He seems very reserved personality wise. I agree too that it was nice seeing Legolas. At first glance his costume and equipment looks very much like what we saw in LOTR. And if that isn't Tauriel, it must be her double... she looks very much like Kate in the face but also in the way she moves. (Good catch!)
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Valinor
Jul 23 2012, 10:21pm
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Wonderful little film, with a fantastical flair.
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HiddenSpring
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Jul 23 2012, 10:23pm
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Suggestive and shadowy, like something out of a dream. This vlog gives me hope The Hobbit will have the necessary fairy tale feeling that makes it unique - and poignant, once the political side of the last half comes into play. The tone/aesthetic should be a lot different from the nature vs. industry play of the first LotR film (though that was very beautiful too). Beorn's house is particularly exquisite.
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Maiarmike
Grey Havens
Jul 23 2012, 10:28pm
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First thing that struck me: Those sets are INCREDIBLY impressive!
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I think they might even rival LotR's best sets, including Minas Tirith, and Helm's Deep. Dale looks amazing, Rhasgobel looks amazing, Beorn's Hall is stunning.
"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge" --J.R.R. Tolkien
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Faenoriel
Tol Eressea
Jul 23 2012, 10:28pm
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my biggest OH MY GOOOOOOD scene was Orlando Bloom and Lee Pace practising together the Elven movements? It just.... Seeing all the sets was wonderful, but that quick shot was such a mind bending trip inside Middle-Earth, inside the countless fanfics read during all these years, trying to imagine what Tolkien and PJ left unshown. Shivers, friends, shivers.
But every word you say today Gets twisted 'round some other way And they'll hurt you if they think you've lied
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Jul 23 2012, 10:31pm
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I agree with you i think he is just practicing. There seems to be some wooden swords just behind that would be perfect for practicing with. Maybe he moved on one stage from wooden sword, lol.
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Valinor
Jul 23 2012, 10:33pm
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That was what i noticed most i think as well
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For me they are even better than Minas Tirith and probably Helms Deep. I really liked Meduseld. I want to live in Beorns house its that cool to me, lol.
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SirDennisC
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Jul 23 2012, 10:34pm
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I agree it looks great. The view shown must be from a prologue or when Thorin talks about how Smaug came to reside in Erebor. The VO (not sure whose voice it was) said it looked Moroccan or Italian... Mediterranean covers it I think. (And now I wonder if we were looking at Dale here at all?) Seeing the sets, and in light of PJ's comments, it makes me wonder what all the fuss was recently about not using miniatures (or bigatures) as they did in LOTR.
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DanielLB
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Jul 23 2012, 10:36pm
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These photos are definitely of Dale
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I agree it looks great. The view shown must be from a prologue or when Thorin talks about how Smaug came to reside in Erebor. The VO (not sure whose voice it was) said it looked Moroccan or Italian... Mediterranean covers it I think. (And now I wonder if we were looking at Dale here at all?) Seeing the sets, and in light of PJ's comments, it makes me wonder what all the fuss was recently about not using miniatures (or bigatures) as they did in LOTR.
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imin
Valinor
Jul 23 2012, 10:37pm
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And yeah that is Dale can see some of the photos are exactly where some people in the blog were standing. Looks like it has been destroyed and trees have encroached into the town.
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SirDennisC
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Jul 23 2012, 10:45pm
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Well Hadafang was invented by PJ and co for LOTR
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so they have absolute control of its provenance. IIRC it was made for an ancestor of Elrond's, passed from him to Arwen. It was wielded by Elrond in the prologue of LOTR so it is unlikely that he gave it to Thranduil before giving it to Arwen. Unless it was intended for the eldest elf daughter in the entire family? Perhaps then he did give it to Thranduil who then gave it to Tauriel, and upon her death it passed back to Elrond to give to Arwen, assuming she is next in line (according to age or family line)? In any event, again they can do whatever they want since it is an invented sword... ending up in the hands of an invented character should not be a problem at all. ETA: of course he may be just practising with a sword that happened to be at hand. The dwarfs were using bokken during their axe (combat) training. Or perhaps it is a twin to Hadafang... one for Arwen, the other for Tauriel?
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Rohan
Jul 23 2012, 10:45pm
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I think that's Tauriel's double
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I'm 90% sure that is the same actress who does the leaping attack stunt earlier in the video, which leads me to think she is a stunt double - probably Tauriel's stunt double as facially she seems to have a bit of a similarity to E. Lilly, but I don't think it's Lilly. Might be wrong though.
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SirDennisC
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Jul 23 2012, 10:49pm
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Okay thanks for the recommendation
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... though between you and me, I'm rather looking forward to seeing him in Breaking Dawn, just ahead of the Hobbit release.
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DanielLB
Immortal
Jul 23 2012, 10:51pm
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Like you say, there is no reason why it couldn't be Hadhafang.
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Giving it that backstory might be a bit complicated (not that it would need explaining on screen). I like the idea of your ETA though, SirDennisC. There's already beater and biter, basher and nasher (I can't remember what Dwalin's are, as revealed at SDCC) ... how about ... Hadhafang and Hashabang? By the sounds of it, your hoping Tauriel snuffs it?
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Gondor
Jul 23 2012, 10:53pm
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The one-eyed dwarf could be Thrain...
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He lost an eye during the battle of Azanulbizar.
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