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Eruonen
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Jul 22 2012, 10:52pm
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TTT on StarzHD now...
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Observation of some little used powers of Gandalf in Fangorn. When Aragorn's sword heats up, he deftly uses both power and his staff to block Legolas' arrow and Gimli's axe. Then, when he recounts fighting the Balrog his sword takes on extra power as it channels his energy into each stroke whicl ultimately kills the Balrog with a nice "lightning" thrust into its chest.
Side note - where does the demonic spirit of a Balrog go after death? To join Morgoth or Mandos (probaly not)? To Eru for his Doom?
(This post was edited by Eruonen on Jul 22 2012, 10:55pm)
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DanielLB
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Jul 23 2012, 7:08am
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I watched TTT on DVD yesterday afternoon!
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Good question regarding the spirits of Balrogs. That probably deserves it's own thread!
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DanielLB
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Jul 23 2012, 7:45am
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Had a think, and hope I can answer your original question...
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The Ainur that entered the World at the beginning (Morgoth, Sauron, Gandalf, Saruman, Balrogs etc...) were bound to remain in Arda until its end. Morgoth should be treated as an exception, in that he was forcibly thrust outside out it into the Void (though, it is prophesised that even Morgoth would one day return).
Now, Gandalf remarked that following the destruction of the One Ring, Sauron would be reduced to "a mere spirit of malice that gnaws itself in the shadows, but cannot again grow or take shape." (The Last Debate). Presumably, the Balrogs (and Saruman) would have received a similar fate after death.
In the case of Saruman, his judgment seemed to be instantaneous:
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"To the dismay of those that stood by, about the body of Saruman a grey mist gathered, and rising slowly to a great height like smoke from a fire, as a pale shrouded figure it loomed over the Hill. For a moment it wavered, looking to the West; but out of the West came a cold wind, and it bent away, and with a sigh dissolved into nothing." (The Scouring of the Shire)
Like Sauron and Saruman, the spirits of the barlogs likely wandered Arda invisible, intangible, and impotent - mere spirits of malice.
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Eruonen
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Jul 23 2012, 2:02pm
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Good answer, that makes sense.
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The Balrog's spirit is left to inhabit this plane though in a much diminished form. Enough to cause the "bump in the night" moments but nothing more.
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DanielLB
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Jul 23 2012, 3:24pm
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Not sure what happened with the quote though? 
If the balrogs are the "bump in the nights" what is Sauron? 
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