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TORn's ultimate Comic-Con 2012 round-up!

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Jul 17 2012, 9:07am

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TORn's ultimate Comic-Con 2012 round-up! Can't Post

So over the last 24 to 48 hours, there's only been about half a billion articles posted across the interwebs about the Hall H presentation. Then add an equal number of video interviews that Peter Jackson, Philippa Boyens, Martin Freeman, Ian McKellen and Richard Armitage have been doing about The Hobbit.

Talk about feast or famine!

So without further ado, here's a round-up of the latest ones, and a bit of a summary for many of the articles to help you decide what to read or watch.

Bootnote: big props to everyone who has been sending in links to spymaster at theonering dot net -- you're all ace! And be sure to drop us a line if you think you have a scoop about the production -- we'd love to hear from you!


Press interviews


Who: Martin Freeman, Andy Serkis, Ian McKellen and Peter Jackson

What: Jackson and Serkis speak extensively about the technical advances since Lord of the Rings was made, and the choice to film digital, 3D and 48 fps. They also touch on how much easier motion capture for Gollum is, and the effect that has on those scenes. Martin Freeman talks about constantly having to look two-feet above McKellen's eyes when acting scenes, and Ian McKellen talks about returning as Gandalf the Grey (as opposed to Gandalf the White).

"What is amazing now with performance-capture is that you can get the entire performance, all in one hit. We were able to shoot a scene in its entirety, on a live set, with Martin’s performance being captured on a digital camera while Gollum’s performance used a performance-capture camera, and capture them both, at exactly the same moment in time." Andy Serkis.

"48 fps is way better for 3D. One of the things with 3D is that it does accentuate the strobing because you’re getting it in two eyes from two cameras that were filming. Once you go to 48, it’s much smoother. There’s no eye strain and no headaches." Peter Jackson.


Who: Andy Serkis and Ian McKellen

What: Mostly chat about the on-set feeling of reprising Middle-earth again from some comments given to MTV.

"We're all a little bit older, and there are more children about on set. The crew is fantastic. Literally, it is a bit of a time warp actually, isn't it? Because they're exactly the same people doing exactly the same jobs. Apart from that, the energy and the feel of it is pretty similar." Andy Serkis


Who: Peter Jackson

What: More talk about the potential for that third hobbit film, although hardly much more than we reported ourselves the other day.

"We have certainly been talking to the studio about some of the material we can't film, and we've been asking them so we can do a bit more filming next year. I don't know what would come of that, whether it'd be extended editions or whatnot. But those discussions are ongoing." Peter Jackson.

Video interviews


IGN Entertainment

Crave Online

What: Unlike most of the other video interviews, which were on the press line just before the showreel, Crave got a chance to sit down with Jackson after the presentation in Hall H. Some interesting stuff in this one about how technology affects story, and the necessity of providing a "visceral experience" to attract modern audiences to the cinema. He also discusses possibility of more Tolkien adaptations though, to be frank, any clued-up Tolkien afficionado has known the answer to the Silmarillion movie question for ages.


The Showbiz 411

MTV News

What: Serkis, McKellen, Freeman and Armitage dropped by MTV's booth on their way to Hall H and chatted about what's new and what's the same about returning to Middle-earth. Apparently, McKellen didn't find life too different in "The Hobbit," even though it's been shot a decade later and takes place 77 years before "The Lord of the Rings."


What: Jackson talks about how fate may have played a part in GDT's having to step away from directing The Hobbit, a little bit on how The Hobbit tonally compares to The Lord of the Rings, and finally, some more reinforcement that 48 fps might just be the future of cinema.

Hollywood Reporter

Choice quote: "Well, it's the origin of the journey of the Ring. Obviously in Lord of the Rings, we've established how Gollum arrives in the Misty Mountains and how he's killed his cousin, Deagol, and become craven and possessed by this thing."

"And there he's lived for 540 years until Bilbo Baggins comes along. And so the passage, [of Riddles in the Dark] references the book very strongly. But Gollum at this point... the way that we have defined him in this film is along the same lines as he was in Lord of the Rings. So the Smeagol and Gollum parts of the personality are vying equally."

"He's never talked to anyone for 500 years. So when Bilbo arrives, he's very excited."

Entertainment Weekly

Summaries of the showreel footage, production video and panel Q&A

In addition to our own extensive showreel summary by staffer maegwen, there are a number of articles out there revealing extra little details of what was shown in Hall H.

Naturally, all of these articles contain spoilers.

  • Entertainment Weekly. Focuses on the big scenes, not many details.

  • io9. Some fascinating mentions of production blog stuff destined for the second film.

  • Sportsmole. A minute-by-minute account of the Hall H action.

  • Collider. A nice bullet-point summary of all the key things revealed in the footage or talked about on the panel!

  • The Sydney Morning Herald. Mostly implying that The Hobbit is already in oscar-buzz territory.

  • AintitCool. Quint talks in depth about both the production diary -- which we're sure will air soon -- and the showreel.

  • Cinemablend. Another summary that focuses on the big scenes in the showreel.

  • LA Times The LA Times picks the best bits for a summary that gives a more whole of picture view of the Hall H experience.

  • IGN Entertainment This one is a video summary recorded by one of their talking heads immediately after the presentation concluded.

Finally, a few observations about the showreel footage from Ringer dwnfalofnumenor who was in Hall H and took some awesome photos of the panel.

I will say that one of the best and "goosebumpy" scenes is when you see Gandalf about to enter Dol Guldur. When he tells Radagast to go and never come back, it sets up such a tension for the scene to follow with Gandalf running through the labyrinth of the Necromancer's lair.

[It was eerie] to watch Thrain scurrying around in the dungeon -- it was like Thrain was hunting Gandalf and luring him in for the kill. Very cool scene.

In the scene with Gandalf and Galadriel, Sir Ian plays the part to perfection. You can see the heavy burdens he (Gandalf) carries in his eyes, if that makes sense.

Also, in the scene where Bilbo says he found his courage, it's very reminiscent of when Ian Holm tells Gandalf about the ring in his pocket in Fellowship of the Ring. When Martin utters the line aout finding his courage, he does a perfect job of having his voice betraying him (Bilbo) because Bilbo doesn't have the courage to tell Gandalf about the ring (in that scene).

Is there something we've missed? Drop us a line at spymaster at theonering dot net


Jul 17 2012, 3:08pm

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Thank you to whichever TORn admin/mod made this! [In reply to] Can't Post

There's a couple of things I missed Smile Much appreciated!


Jul 20 2012, 10:55pm

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Thanks from me too ... [In reply to] Can't Post

... this is fantastic! Smile


Jul 20 2012, 11:00pm

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That would be Demosthenes // [In reply to] Can't Post


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Jul 21 2012, 12:58am

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Yes, Demos put it together [In reply to] Can't Post

...and is adding to it almost daily, to his well-deserved and lasting credit!

However, thanks also goes out to TORn staffers and readers (including a certain black and white bird Wink) who sent in many of the links, and continue to send them in! So, if anyone finds any great Comic-Con related interviews, videos, stories, descriptions of footage, etc., please send them in to spymaster @ theonering . net!

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Jul 21 2012, 9:37am

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Thank you to everyone that has contributed to this [In reply to] Can't Post

I've come back to this thread nearly every day to drool over all the information. It is much appreciated, and thank you to all that have spent their time compiling this list Smile


Jul 21 2012, 11:03am

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Thank you Demos! [In reply to] Can't Post

I think you've done a great job. I've found numerous links and stories, but I think you have covered most of them.

Those of us who live in far flung parts of the world don't feel as if we've missed out on the latest news thanks to you guys


Jul 29 2012, 10:40pm

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*bows deeply* Thank you so much! [In reply to] Can't Post

I really wanted to be there. I watched the TORn's panel on stickam and ached to participate. What an incredible showing you all had all Con long. I'm so impressed... and so grateful for each and every one of you. Thank you for this compilation. I'm going to be lost in it for hours!

*high five*


I really need these new films to take me back to, and not re-introduce me to, that magical world.

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Aug 5 2012, 6:02am

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you should try and come next year [In reply to] Can't Post

We'd love to have more staffers and more board members join us next summer.

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