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bglenney_uvm
The Shire
Jul 12 2012, 1:15am
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Tolkien at UVM - 2012 summer - week 2 - Elf Ethnicities
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COMMENT: The Silmarillion tells us of the great migration of the Elves from Cuivienen in the eastern reaches of Middle-earth across the sea to the Undyling Lands in the uttermost west. Along the way, the 1st (Vanyar) and 2nd (Noldor) of the 3 Elf peoples complete the migration, but the 3rd and largest group (Teleri) have trouble staying together and "lose" large groups in the process. Some refuse to leave. Others decide to settle along the Anduin and never cross the Misty Mountains. Still others settle in different parts of Beleriand. Only some complete the sea voyage, and at that point their leader decides to stay behind. In later chapters, we come across migrations in the opposite direction. A portion of the Noldor return from the Undying Lands in order to wage war against Morgoth. In the episodes that follow, we find out that the returning Noldor and the Sindar (those Teleri who remain in Beleriand), having lived separately long enough, now speak different languages. After Beleriand is destroyed in the War of Wrath, those Beleriand Elves who choose to remain on that side of the Sea must migrate even farther eastward, creating new realms for themselves or reintegrating themselves with populations of Elves (e.g., in Lorien or Mirkwood) who had left the great migration early on. Galadriel and Celeborn are not "natives" of Lorien; nor is Thranduil a native of Mirkwood (or Greenwood the Great, as it was once called).
QUESTION: Aside from the linguistic differentiation mentioned above, are there — among these different Elf groups — other cultural divergences that complicate these reintegrations? More specifically, when Frodo and the Company of the Ring near Lorien, Legolas is elated at the prospect of visiting the legendary Golden Wood, and I wonder how familiar or foreign this visit is for him — an Elf, but an outsider.
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Tolkien at UVM - 2012 summer - week 2 - Elf Ethnicities
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bglenney_uvm
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Jul 12 2012, 1:15am
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Does Thingol "decide" not to go to Valinor?
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N.E. Brigand
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Jul 12 2012, 6:00pm
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The mass migration is past.
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Curious
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Jul 12 2012, 6:23pm
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the West is open until the Doom of Mandos?
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Felagund
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Jul 13 2012, 8:16pm
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multiple crossings
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bglenney_uvm
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Jul 14 2012, 1:41am
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Legolas may be an outsider in human terms,
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Curious
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Jul 12 2012, 6:19pm
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Celeborn of the various clans
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Elthir
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Jul 13 2012, 3:41pm
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I don't have time to find the language,
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Curious
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Jul 13 2012, 4:02pm
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More chronology
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Elthir
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Jul 13 2012, 8:04pm
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Thanks.
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Curious
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Jul 13 2012, 8:51pm
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Cultural divergence
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CuriousG
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Jul 12 2012, 8:13pm
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Lórien studies and more
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Felagund
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Jul 13 2012, 9:00pm
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elf ethnicities question - thanks
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bglenney_uvm
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Jul 14 2012, 1:44am
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You're welcome!///
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Curious
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Jul 14 2012, 12:46pm
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