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Entertainment Weekly: "The Scroll" shows 10 hobbit scenes, dwarves, trolls, wargs, Beorn in bear form and more!
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DarkJackal
Rohan


Jul 10 2012, 1:09am

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*embraces ByThorinsBeard* [In reply to] Can't Post

ByThorinsBeard wrote: "but I'm sure I'll forget that when I see what a great job he does nailing my favorite Tolkien character."

That's the spirit!


Jim
Rivendell


Jul 10 2012, 1:15am

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Is that Radagast... [In reply to] Can't Post

to the right of the flaming tree and above the wargs in the background? It looks like he is standing in front of two ponies?

This has just elevated my excitement to another level, Comic Con is just around the corner and I can't wait to see what they will reveal this Saturday.


(This post was edited by Jim on Jul 10 2012, 1:22am)


DarkJackal
Rohan


Jul 10 2012, 1:15am

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well that wouldn't be fun [In reply to] Can't Post

I live for our disagreements!


flowww
Bree

Jul 10 2012, 1:16am

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Cool [In reply to] Can't Post

Although, notice how in every shot of the dwarves, Kili is featured the most prominantly... Mildly disconcerting, especially since he really takes away from their dwarfishness.

I understand of course that this is Entertainment Weekly and they're going to focus on sex appeal, but imo this amply demonstrates how Kili's image is a purely commercial decision. Hopefully he wont be used as much - and in the same way - in the film as he is in the promotion, stinking it all up with this pandering, gratuitous fanservice. Honestly, it reeks of Warner Bros.

Otherwise though, this all looks beautiful. Very Hobbit-y.


QuackingTroll
Valinor

Jul 10 2012, 1:17am

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Here's how Tolkien pictured the bridge... [In reply to] Can't Post

http://corecanvas.s3.amazonaws.com/...original/jrrt_23.jpg

http://earing.80port.net/...venking's%20Gate.jpg

PJ seems to be inspired by this image of Menegroth from The Children of Húrin...

http://www.tolkienlibrary.com/...eparts_Menegroth.jpg


marillaraina
Rohan

Jul 10 2012, 1:21am

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? [In reply to] Can't Post


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There are three figures in the foreground. Gandalf, Radagast and an Elf? Perhaps the last two are the folk who Gandalf met on the road who warned him about the Trolls.


Not sure where you mean or if you are kidding but the three people in the foreground on the hill picture are Kili, Fili and, I think, Oin(and the three people at the head of the line are Gandalf, Bilbo and I think Gloin)


Sinister71
Tol Eressea


Jul 10 2012, 1:23am

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are they Wargs or just wolves? [In reply to] Can't Post

just because they are showing them doesn't mean they are Wargs they could just be the wolf portion of the wolves and Wargs Wink


(This post was edited by sinister71 on Jul 10 2012, 1:23am)


Sinister71
Tol Eressea


Jul 10 2012, 1:24am

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very cool [In reply to] Can't Post

lots of interesting things to see Smile


QuackingTroll
Valinor

Jul 10 2012, 1:25am

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So, what's Elrond doing with the Morgul blade? [In reply to] Can't Post

I thought he might be trying to translate Glamdring's description, but the higher-res picture confirms this is the Morgul Blade, so what's he reading?

High-res: http://cinescopia.com/...mica-principal00.jpg


(This post was edited by QuackingTroll on Jul 10 2012, 1:26am)


duats
Grey Havens

Jul 10 2012, 1:27am

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It still looks like its catching the light to me [In reply to] Can't Post

And it being a few strands of hair, shining light down on it would make it look lighter than it really is. It could also just be chocked up to the fact that it's concept art - hence the inconsistency in lighting (Gandalf seems to be lit by a completely different light source).

Just look at his shoulder. Even though it's a night shot, that looks black to me, with maybe just the slightest hint of brown/blonde in there. I don't know. If he were blonde, I think it'd be much more apparent. For instance, even in this nighttime scene, you can still clearly make out that Gandalf's hat is blue, and his robes are grey. Also note that Beorn's color is much darker than Gandalf's grey robes, which I don't think would be the case if his hair were blonde.


(This post was edited by duats on Jul 10 2012, 1:30am)


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jul 10 2012, 1:27am

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Not a polar bear [In reply to] Can't Post

not one at all!

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Bombadil
Half-elven


Jul 10 2012, 1:27am

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Fili&Kili have the best Eyesight [In reply to] Can't Post

SO..they take up the rear guard
Gandalf leading since he knows the Territory.

Also my opinion is that are grouped
often by families
& Rank...
so our youngest are usually last in line.


QuackingTroll
Valinor

Jul 10 2012, 1:28am

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Actually, if you look really close... [In reply to] Can't Post

you can see, faintly, he's looking at Thror's map Wink I do wonder how the Morgul Blade has any relevance, though.


ByThorinsBeard
Rohan


Jul 10 2012, 1:34am

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True that [In reply to] Can't Post

I won't argue your valid points, but pardon my cliche - the eyes are the windows of the soul. For every single role I've seen Richard in, it's his eyes and the tone of his voice that really sell the character for me. Never bothered looking at his jaw.

And I am sure that the short beard was as much a marketing tool as it was comfort on Richard's part.

Ah well, I suppose my request for a hot male character with a long beard has been dashed again. ;)

EvilEvil

"Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you anywhere." - Albert Einstein.



Magpie
Immortal


Jul 10 2012, 1:41am

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it redirects to http://www.thehobbitblog.com/ // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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QuackingTroll
Valinor

Jul 10 2012, 1:44am

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Is it there? [In reply to] Can't Post

Oddly enough, I was looking for the moth on my second look... have you found it?


eralkfang
Lorien


Jul 10 2012, 1:45am

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Absolutely glorious. [In reply to] Can't Post

I've got chills; December can't come soon enough!

The dwarves look amazing—Thorin's design, in particular, is really working for me lately. The wargs (or just plain old wolves!) look great, I'm pleased as punch to see Beorn…

I think it's just hit me that this is actually happening. Like, for real.


QuackingTroll
Valinor

Jul 10 2012, 1:48am

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He also doesn't have his staff... // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


ByThorinsBeard
Rohan


Jul 10 2012, 1:48am

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My thanks DarkJackal [In reply to] Can't Post

Need to find your Thorin fan site again...

From a cranky not old berserk-her trying to open her trap jaw mind.

and LoL at Bjorn asyour polar bear quip.

"Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you anywhere." - Albert Einstein.



ElendilTheShort
Gondor

Jul 10 2012, 1:49am

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So pleased with this [In reply to] Can't Post

not just the quality of the content but the fact that many early design concerns have evolved and improved especially with regards to the dwarves. All the scenery looks beautiful and dare I say it more Tolkien like than some of what we saw in the LOTR movies. The wargs are even wargs not those ugly mutated mongerels in the LOTR movies. Good to see Beorn T. Bear is not some over the top design, just what he is meant to be...perfect.


Bombadil
Half-elven


Jul 10 2012, 1:49am

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Don't get Hasty..it's A paper weight? [In reply to] Can't Post

..Personally even though I Love Rohan &z Gondor..

I'm really pleased we are gunna Tour Northern ME!
Mossy deep greens, wilder counties that are not
settled into Vast kingdoms.

PJ's movies were a bit too bright for me.
SO we get to
Visit a... much more mysterious, Shadowy Realm.

(Maybe because I read them in High School in Colorado Springs)
Mountains in the northern lattitudes have often felt like hidden places
somewhere in ME to me.

The last shot of the company in barrels sooo reminds me of tubeing down Rivers in Colorado as a kid!


Bomby


QuackingTroll
Valinor

Jul 10 2012, 2:02am

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Or werewolves :o // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 10 2012, 2:08am

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So it is [In reply to] Can't Post

Going according to the implied chronology I assumed the blade was sting... but I see now that it is like a Morgul blade (after the shape and pommel). That is new. Was it found in the Troll's cave or is it evidence that Sauron is afoot?

It does appear to be Thorin's map that Elrond is pouring over. You can kind of see it by the light shining through it.

But is no one excited to see Bilbo riding atop a barrel rather than inside of one?


QuackingTroll
Valinor

Jul 10 2012, 2:10am

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Oh, how cool! [In reply to] Can't Post

They lose their armour, clothes and most of (possibly all of?*) their gear while in Thrainduil's keep. I imagine they'll spruce up at Laketown, so they could look quite different in film 2. What's interesting is that if these new looks exist, then they've already been designed and shot and none of us have had any idea Cool

*I wonder what happens to their weapons, particularly Orcrist, when in Thranduil's halls? Does the book explain? Perhaps he gets it back in film 2 via a particular elf? Or maybe Bilbo steals some stuff from a confiscation room and packs it in barrels?


(This post was edited by QuackingTroll on Jul 10 2012, 2:14am)


Altaira
Superuser / Moderator


Jul 10 2012, 2:17am

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Me too, AO [In reply to] Can't Post

The 'new and improved' wargs look awesome, as does the 'bear' form of Beorn.


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