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What's a moral exactly?

FarFromHome
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Jul 6 2012, 3:07pm


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What's a moral exactly? [In reply to] Can't Post

Is it the same as an inner meaning or 'message'? Because if so, Tolkien makes it clear that even LotR doesn't have (or need) one of those:

"As for any inner meaning or ‘message’, it has in the intention of the author none." (Foreword to the Second Edition of LotR)

I think you hit the nail on the head, though, with your references to On Fairy Stories. It's not what I'd call a moral, as such, but Bilbo acts out in "real life" what we can only experience second-hand in fantasy - he visits Faerie. He experiences the world as a place full of magic and mystery - the world, Tolkien suggests in On Fairy Stories, as it might have seemed to the people of long ago, when magic and the supernatural were intricately bound up in the meaning of everyday life - giving everyday things an added dimension that we can no longer access, except through metaphor, poetry or fantasy (this is based on the theory of meaning developed in fellow-Inkling Owen Barfield's book Poetic Diction).

Fairy stories such as The Hobbit are a way for us to get a glimpse of that long-lost "magical" world, and what happens to Bilbo reflects what can happen to us (in a much less concrete and more metaphorical way, of course) when we allow ourselves to be dragged off on an "adventure" in the world of the imagination - like Bilbo, we too can experience Recovery, Escape, Consolation. That's what Tolkien mostly offers, I think. He professes to offer no inner meaning or message. I suppose he would like to think that he has done enough by offering his readers a glimpse of the deeper "underlying reality" that can sometimes be found in Faerie. His adventures teach Bilbo to interact with the world more deeply and appreciate it more fully. If there is a moral, maybe it's that.

They went in, and Sam shut the door.
But even as he did so, he heard suddenly,
deep and unstilled,
the sigh and murmur of the Sea upon the shores of Middle-earth.
From the unpublished Epilogue to the Lord of the Rings


Subject User Time
What is the moral of the story in The Hobbit? Curious Send a private message to Curious Jul 5 2012, 4:15pm
    Multiple morals? Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jul 5 2012, 4:25pm
        That is what Thorin learned, Curious Send a private message to Curious Jul 5 2012, 4:30pm
            The first is what Bilbo learned about himself. Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jul 5 2012, 4:42pm
            You don't think Thorin learned it as well?// Curious Send a private message to Curious Jul 5 2012, 5:40pm
    The New Shadow imin Send a private message to imin Jul 5 2012, 4:56pm
    Nice essay Curious SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Jul 5 2012, 6:03pm
        Morals Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff Jul 5 2012, 9:34pm
    What Bilbo gained Gwytha Send a private message to Gwytha Jul 6 2012, 6:21am
        Well, he started writing poetry. Curious Send a private message to Curious Jul 6 2012, 11:56am
            You don't consider Bilbo a poet? Gwytha Send a private message to Gwytha Jul 6 2012, 7:24pm
                Relevant Curious Send a private message to Curious Jul 6 2012, 7:37pm
                    Heh heh Gwytha Send a private message to Gwytha Jul 7 2012, 4:33am
    You asked what Bilbo was afraid of at the beginning of the story... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Jul 6 2012, 2:10pm
    What's a moral exactly? FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Jul 6 2012, 3:07pm
        Tolkien did not like allegory because Curious Send a private message to Curious Jul 6 2012, 3:49pm
    That's a wonderful analysis dreamflower Send a private message to dreamflower Jul 6 2012, 10:08pm
        I think that the reader is more like Bilbo than like Thorin. Curious Send a private message to Curious Jul 7 2012, 1:00am
            Re: I think that the reader is more like Bilbo than like Thorin. dreamflower Send a private message to dreamflower Jul 7 2012, 1:45am
                One of the main things I learned Curious Send a private message to Curious Jul 7 2012, 2:44am
                    Story externally dreamflower Send a private message to dreamflower Jul 7 2012, 3:17am
                        It's tricky, though, interpreting TH based on LotR. Curious Send a private message to Curious Jul 7 2012, 12:14pm
                            'Tolkien invented Cyberpunk? Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jul 7 2012, 5:46pm
                                In hindsight, hiring William Gibson for the rewrite may have been a mistake. // SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Jul 7 2012, 11:58pm
                                Oops!// Curious Send a private message to Curious Jul 8 2012, 11:37am
                            Tricky? Perspective is key Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff Jul 7 2012, 10:29pm
                                I question whether the dwarves in TH took the quest seriously. Curious Send a private message to Curious Jul 8 2012, 12:06am
                            Re: It's tricky, though, interpreting TH based on LotR dreamflower Send a private message to dreamflower Jul 7 2012, 11:00pm
                                The Bilbo of TH is the Bilbo of LotR, Curious Send a private message to Curious Jul 8 2012, 12:03am
                                    Re:The Bilbo of TH is the Bilbo of LotR, dreamflower Send a private message to dreamflower Jul 8 2012, 12:22am
    Never laugh at live dragons ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Jul 12 2012, 4:28am
        You would think we would know that one.// Curious Send a private message to Curious Jul 12 2012, 2:49pm

 
 
 

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