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MrCere
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May 25 2012, 5:04am

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Champing [In reply to] Can't Post

I absolutely thought it was "chomping" at the bit in reference to horses who, before running a race, were anxious and nervous and chomping at the bit. I am ashamed thinking about how often I might have used that.

But, where does "champing" come from?! Why does it mean that?

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Starling
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May 25 2012, 5:12am

Post #102 of 187 (1874 views)
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It just means chewing really, [In reply to] Can't Post

but in a noisy way. It's a great description of what horses do with their bit when they are impatient.
I've always used that term, probably because I've spent so much time around horses.


Starling
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May 25 2012, 5:17am

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Who needs a squib, when you can have a ten-armed cephalopod? [In reply to] Can't Post

I heard a new one today. A man describing tax changes on public radio this morning was very disappointed. He referred to the changes as, "..a bit of a damp squid, really...". Laugh


Silverlode
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May 25 2012, 5:21am

Post #104 of 187 (1881 views)
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According to [In reply to] Can't Post

my brief research, champing is the original word and chomping is an American variant. Interestingly enough, "chomp" is not listed in the 1828 version of Webster's American Dictionary so clearly it hadn't reached common use status at that point.

So yes, they mean the same thing, but the original phrase predates "chomp" and so "champ" is correct.

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Creative fantasy, because it is mainly trying to do something else [make something new], may open your hoard and let all the locked things fly away like cage-birds. The gems all turn into flowers or flames, and you will be warned that all you had (or knew) was dangerous and potent, not really effectively chained, free and wild; no more yours than they were you."
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Silverlode
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May 25 2012, 5:25am

Post #105 of 187 (1836 views)
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LOL! [In reply to] Can't Post

Granted, it might still be a depressing failure but it wouldn't have quite the same effect. Laugh

Silverlode

"Of all faces those of our familiares are the ones both most difficult to play fantastic tricks with, and most difficult really to see with fresh attention. They have become like the things which once attracted us by their glitter, or their colour, or their shape, and we laid hands on them, and then locked them in our hoard, acquired them, and acquiring ceased to look at them.
Creative fantasy, because it is mainly trying to do something else [make something new], may open your hoard and let all the locked things fly away like cage-birds. The gems all turn into flowers or flames, and you will be warned that all you had (or knew) was dangerous and potent, not really effectively chained, free and wild; no more yours than they were you."
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geordie
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May 25 2012, 6:28am

Post #106 of 187 (1860 views)
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It's also correct [In reply to] Can't Post

to say 'an hotel' - and also 'an hour', as in so many miles an hour.


DanielLB
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May 25 2012, 6:49am

Post #107 of 187 (1886 views)
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I'm glad I'm not the only one! [In reply to] Can't Post

Thought I had missed a whole part of my education Wink

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Magpie
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May 25 2012, 11:27am

Post #108 of 187 (1880 views)
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Thirty white horses on a red hill, [In reply to] Can't Post

First they champ,
Then they stamp,
Then they stand still.

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Xanaseb
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May 25 2012, 12:13pm

Post #109 of 187 (1818 views)
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Dunno if you've seen this hilarious video by David Mitchell about American - British english 'could care less' LOL : [In reply to] Can't Post

LOL it's funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw


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May 25 2012, 2:14pm

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A Hotel / An Hour [In reply to] Can't Post


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It's also correct to say 'an hotel' - and also 'an hour', as in so many miles an hour.

It's not correct, actually. 'Hotel' begins with a consonant sound and should be preceded by an 'a.' Whereas 'hour' begins with a vowel sound and thus gets the 'an.'


DanielLB
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May 25 2012, 2:20pm

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It's not *not* correct [In reply to] Can't Post

According the wikipedia (yes....I know):


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An is also preferred before hotel by some writers of British English (probably reflecting the relatively recent adoption of the word from French, where the h is not pronounced).The use of "an" before words beginning with an unstressed "h" is more common generally in British English than American. American writers normally use a in all these cases, although there are occasional uses of an historic(al) in American English





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Lily Fairbairn
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May 25 2012, 2:47pm

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I agree on Word Perfect! [In reply to] Can't Post

I do my original writing in Word Perfect, then, grudgingly, change it to Word before sending it out into the world, because Word is standard these days. If I have to format anything in Word I know to allow plenty of time, soothing music, and chocolate, because it's going to be a struggle.

And even then Word will slip funny little bits of code into your spanking clean document.... Mad Blush

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May 25 2012, 2:57pm

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I loved WordPerfect [In reply to] Can't Post

and was very unhappy with having to switch. I particularly loved their "reveal codes" feature which made it so easy to format, as well as find the mistake that made your formatting go wonky.

But I have to say that Word 2007 and now Word 2010 are a vast improvement on the old Word 97-2003. If you haven't upgraded, do so!

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May 25 2012, 4:04pm

Post #114 of 187 (1834 views)
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Around here we hold down the fort, pardner. [In reply to] Can't Post

Ever hear of the "Wyoming kite"? It's a manhole cover on a length of chain :-D


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Aunt Dora Baggins
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May 25 2012, 4:08pm

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Noone, duck tape [In reply to] Can't Post

I see "noone" in place of "no one" on the Internet all the time, and it always looks like a Chaucerian spelling of "noon".

I think there is a brand of duct tape called "Duck tape". But that's just a brand name.


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Lily Fairbairn
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May 25 2012, 4:10pm

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I have both new Words... [In reply to] Can't Post

...and I find them even more difficult to work with than Word 97-2003. It's like everything I fought my way into learning how to do on the old Word is now even more complicated!

I think the issue is that Word is now set up to do complex work that I don't need to do, so I have to wade through dozens (at least) of options, with no idea of what they even mean. And I don't have the choice of NOT using them, because the dang software just blithely incorporates them into my work whether I want it to or not.

Maybe I'm just a slow learner. Unsure

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May 25 2012, 4:11pm

Post #117 of 187 (1840 views)
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Pogo mentions a cat [In reply to] Can't Post

that ate some cheese and sat by the mousehole with baited breath...


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dernwyn
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May 25 2012, 4:12pm

Post #118 of 187 (1836 views)
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Never underestimate the power of Chinook winds! [In reply to] Can't Post

If you don't hold down the fort, those'll send it sailing! Laugh


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Aunt Dora Baggins
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May 25 2012, 4:13pm

Post #119 of 187 (1840 views)
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That one actually kind of makes sense. [In reply to] Can't Post

The seeds for those issues are planted deep down.


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Aunt Dora Baggins
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May 25 2012, 4:18pm

Post #120 of 187 (1827 views)
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Even though I really, really know better [In reply to] Can't Post

I sometimes slip up with homonyms when I'm typing fast. Two-too-to, its-it's, their-they're-there. I really do know the difference. So if you see me goofing up here, it's just my fumblefingers.

I also put two spaces after a period. It's not a conscious thing, just very, very automatic.


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"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
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DanielLB
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May 25 2012, 4:21pm

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I never ever thought I would see the word "Chinook" on this forum [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks a lot dernwyn, now my work and interests are mixed Frown My PhD research at the moment is on foehn winds....

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Aunt Dora Baggins
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May 25 2012, 4:24pm

Post #122 of 187 (1805 views)
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Reminds me of "Ladle Rat Rotten Hut" [In reply to] Can't Post

We still say "garbled erupt" at my house.

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"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
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May 25 2012, 4:41pm

Post #123 of 187 (1840 views)
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And there's one I didn't think I'd see! [In reply to] Can't Post

Not unless I posted it, anyway, while droning on about Switzerland. ;) "If the Föhn does not blow, the golden sun and the good God can do nothing with the snow."

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geordie
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May 25 2012, 7:27pm

Post #124 of 187 (1854 views)
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Yes, you're right about 'an hour' - [In reply to] Can't Post

- but I'm right about 'an hotel'.

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Ataahua
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May 25 2012, 8:34pm

Post #125 of 187 (1840 views)
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Canterbury has the föhn (foehn) winds from the Southern Alps, [In reply to] Can't Post

but it wasn't until last year that I realised it wasn't the 'fern effect', as I had thought! In my defence I had never seen the word written down, only heard it.

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