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Middle Earth vs. Wizarding World of Harry Potter

The Shire

May 15 2012, 12:59pm

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Middle Earth vs. Wizarding World of Harry Potter Can't Post

All out war, ever character. Who wins?

I say Middle Earth.

"Let the Lord of the Black Lands come forth!"
- Aragorn


May 15 2012, 1:29pm

Post #2 of 10 (427 views)
Middle-earth vs. Tampa? [In reply to] Can't Post

Based on the thread title, I thought you were pitting all of Middle-earth against a theme park!

I would say that Middle-earth wins, but wouldn't the muggles get involved as well?

"Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house." - Aragorn


May 15 2012, 2:19pm

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Middle-earth [In reply to] Can't Post

No interest in Harry Potter whatsoever Wink

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The Shire

May 15 2012, 10:28pm

Post #4 of 10 (410 views)
Aw, thats too bad. [In reply to] Can't Post

Maybe next time we could go with ME vs. Galifrey?.. or Skaro. (I am a biiig Doctor Who fan, as I'm sure you are to.)

I doubt anything could beat Middle Earth though. It holds a wide variety of races, where as most other places are the generic wizard, or robot, or lizard. Etc, etc.

"Let the Lord of the Black Lands come forth!"
- Aragorn


May 16 2012, 9:04am

Post #5 of 10 (392 views)
How did you guess ....? [In reply to] Can't Post

Doctor Who filled that Middle-earth shaped whole in my life after ROTK.

My loyalty remains with Tolkien still Wink

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Grey Havens

May 17 2012, 5:00pm

Post #6 of 10 (390 views)
Hmmm... close, but [In reply to] Can't Post

I gotta go with HP (even against DW, I fear, which I also have a great fondness for). Reasons? In ME, most folks (humans, Hobbits, Dwarves, orcs, to name the most numerous groups) do not possess magical abilities - assuming that, with the exception of Gandalf (and Saruman and Sauron, if we're letting them play), all the Maiar and Valar would stay home as usual, that leaves only the Elves, who have telepathic abilities. HP, by contrast, has wizards galore who can fight and defend themselves at distances swords, arrows and catapults can't reach, as well as telepathic abilities among some of them; not to mention House Elves who, like their human wizard kindred, have the ability to Apparate and perform other magic. In metalworking, I suspect Rowling's Goblins' abilities would be equal to Tolkien's Dwarves' - so that's a draw.

And, sadly, I must conclude (having just finished a thesis on the topic of human agency) that Harry Potter himself goes about saving the world in a more consciously decisive manner than does Frodo. It is precisely because Harry chooses, freely and knowingly, to do what he is called to do that Voldemort is defeated. However I may love LOTR (and I do, very much), I must acknowledge that, in the end, the destruction of the Ring is not the result of Frodo's conscious choice, but of an accident. And both heroes were under the psychic influence of their opponents, so it's not a matter of the difference in the obstacles they faced. sigh.

Now, line up the good guys of both worlds against the bad guys of both worlds - no contest, the good guys win.

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May 17 2012, 5:10pm

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I wouldn't call destroying the Ring an accident [In reply to] Can't Post

Rather fate. But that's a whole different disucssion Wink

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Tol Eressea

May 21 2012, 7:40pm

Post #8 of 10 (378 views)
With the Valar and Melkor included? Even Eru? [In reply to] Can't Post

Middle-Earth, and there's no contest.

But every word you say today
Gets twisted 'round some other way
And they'll hurt you if they think you've lied


May 28 2012, 9:38pm

Post #9 of 10 (364 views)
Middle Earth FTW!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

Sauron vs. Voldemort: Voldie gets pwned.
Frodo vs. Harry: Okay. Harry might beat Frodo.
Dumbledore vs. Gandalf: Do I even have to go here? Gandalf.
Dementors vs. Dead Men of Dunharrow: What say you? I say Dead guys.
Shelob vs. Arigog: Shelob is bigger, meaner, and just plain cooler.

That good?

"who now has the power to stand against Isengard and Mordor? Who can stand against the might of Sauron and Saruman, and the union of the Two Towers?"


Jun 18 2012, 1:02pm

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Middle Earth Wins [In reply to] Can't Post



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