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This film will out-do The Avengers and The Dark Knight Rises combined
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TheCoon
Lorien

May 6 2012, 4:33pm

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This film will out-do The Avengers and The Dark Knight Rises combined Can't Post

that is all


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QuackingTroll
Valinor


May 6 2012, 4:46pm

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I doubt it [In reply to] Can't Post

that is, as you say, all

"...For if joyful is the fountain that rises in the sun, its springs are in the wells of sorrow unfathomed at the foundations of the Earth"

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Lacrimae Rerum
Grey Havens

May 6 2012, 4:49pm

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Are you talking about box office take? [In reply to] Can't Post

If so it seems a little unlikely. What makes you say that?

LR


Bombadil
Half-elven


May 6 2012, 4:50pm

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Correct-moondoe... [In reply to] Can't Post

The World of Cinema
" has Changed...I feel
it in the Water..."

DECEMBER will SHOW?
the rest of The Pretenders

to the THRONE...????

(KEEP Breathing) TORn

Xoxox bomby


Sinister71
Tol Eressea


May 6 2012, 6:05pm

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wishful thinking [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't see it happening to be honest. Not that I wouldn't love to see the hobbit be the highest grossing film of all time but those are 2 huge flicks that are surely blockbusters. Avengers has made over 200 million in less than 3 days so I believe its gonna be a tall order to top them both together Wink


rings7
Rohan


May 6 2012, 6:07pm

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Combined?? hey calm down [In reply to] Can't Post

I just saw Avengers and it was the bomb. I'm sure TDKR will be the same, AND, i'm sure The Hobbit will be as well. But to say TH will top the two combined is totally unrealistic.


JWPlatt
Grey Havens


May 6 2012, 6:30pm

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Hype & The Political Prognostications [In reply to] Can't Post

Politicians say things like this - not because they believe it will be true, but because they wish it to become true by saying so. For example, "Ladies and gentlemen, the next President of the United States!" at campaign rallies. In this thread's case, the root of hyperbole is hype - like a self-fulfilling prophesy. If it gets repeated enough, it could more easily become true whereas had it not been said, it would not have. If there were a phrase, saying, or expression for this kind of political hype, I'd love to know it so I don't have to explain it each time.

Perhaps you should throw Prometheus into the totals The Hobbit will beat to increase the hype.


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geordie
Tol Eressea

May 6 2012, 6:35pm

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Please - [In reply to] Can't Post

- no need to shout!

thanks.

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TheCoon
Lorien

May 6 2012, 7:08pm

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all right then [In reply to] Can't Post

then lets have your box office predictions


Chopsta123
Gondor


May 6 2012, 7:12pm

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before asking someone else... [In reply to] Can't Post

and since you can predict the future, whats your predictions in $ for the three films.

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Patty
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May 6 2012, 7:22pm

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Well... [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm sure The Hobbit movies will do well, and perhaps if you're speaking of both movies as if they were one I might agree with you. But individually--no. Would be great if it came true, though.

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DanielLB
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May 6 2012, 7:37pm

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I don't care how it does worldwide [In reply to] Can't Post

All that matters to me, is my own opinion Smile

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Carne
Tol Eressea

May 6 2012, 7:49pm

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Definitely not combined. [In reply to] Can't Post

But I can see is going past Avengers.


Patty
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May 6 2012, 7:54pm

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I agree. [In reply to] Can't Post

But for its legacy, I hope it does very well. I'd love it to do well cause I don't like that a Harry Potter movie did better box office than RotK.MadSmile

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DanielLB
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May 6 2012, 8:02pm

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The last HP film? [In reply to] Can't Post

But HP had a lot longer time basis to build up hype & fans than LOTR (in terms of film, not books, of course). Plus ROTK (and LOTR in general) did a lot better regarding awards - which I think is better for a film than box office takings (if a film has one 10 or so oscars then I'm likely to watch it!)

But yet, I agree too. I *want* the film to do well. But more importantly I *want* to enjoy and like it. Everything after that is a bonus!

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Try-again-later
The Shire

May 6 2012, 8:02pm

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The Hobbit will be massive [In reply to] Can't Post

But not that massive. Maybe both parts of the film together will be better than those two combined.


Patty
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May 6 2012, 8:08pm

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Yep, it did a lot better as far as awards go... [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm wondering if (again, legacy wise) awards count more than box office? I would think so.

Anyway, what always remains most important to me is how a film tells the story and how it looks on the blu-ray. That's probably the main reason why I'm not getting fussed about the 48 fps issue. And just maybe, the controversy over the fps issue will bump up the box office because people will be curious.Smile

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Ataahua
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May 6 2012, 8:57pm

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All-caps edited out [In reply to] Can't Post

as we prefer our board members' eyes to not bleed while reading posts.

I doubt The Hobbit will out-do both films combined as we're talking about three juggernauts here. However I expect The Hobbit to do ridiculously well, even amid the strong competition for viewers' dollars.

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauronís master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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DanielLB
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May 6 2012, 9:20pm

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Oh yes! [In reply to] Can't Post

Any media attention will probably benefit the films! Better to build up the hype early Smile

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Bombadil
Half-elven


May 6 2012, 9:29pm

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Here are Ideas... [In reply to] Can't Post

1. By the time this...Fall
and The Marketing departments
Of Warner Brothers release
a Super Trailer in front of Many
FILMS ...
The Whole World won't want to miss it.

2. The many filmfans I talk to
DON'T even Know there are 2
CHRISTMAS PRESENTS coming
from NZ??
Many get really excited & I tell
them about TORn.&..PJ's FB page
and how they need to scroll down
to watch over an HOUR of VBLOGS!!!
(in Order)
SOME have come up to me a few days Later
JUST BEAMING
to Thank meHeart

3.WITH the largest Budget
In Cinema History
the Promotional Budget will bbeeee..
just Phenomenal. as well ! !!

Example ..when I was in Paris
you couldn't walk a Block
without seeing Banner hanging
on Most lamposts advertising
"Titanic"...so do you think WB
is gunna Drop the Ball?

I HOPE no one gets Hurt fighting
for the
Best seat ...

Xoxox Litt'e ol' bomby (Widower)


AinurOlorin
Half-elven


May 6 2012, 9:44pm

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I think it is realistic to at least hold hope that it may out perform one [In reply to] Can't Post

or both of them, individually, but not collectively. For various reasons I can see The Hobbit possibly beating out The Dark Knight, and likely beating The Avengers, but both combined is a tall order for any film.

"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


May 6 2012, 11:08pm

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It'll certainly outdo Battleship [In reply to] Can't Post

And Snow White and the Huntsman, for that matter...poor, stupid Universal...

BTW, by "film", are we discussing just AUJ or TH simply as one project?

Personally, I think AUJ may make around 700 mil worldwide, and TABA may just join ROTK in grossing over a billion.

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, with axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


duats
Grey Havens

May 7 2012, 12:29am

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The Avengers is on track to make $200 million its opening weekend [In reply to] Can't Post

I think your prediction might be just a tad bit off.


Maiarmike
Grey Havens


May 7 2012, 1:39am

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Doubt it. [In reply to] Can't Post

Better movie though? Probably.

"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge"
--J.R.R. Tolkien


JWPlatt
Grey Havens


May 7 2012, 2:11am

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Revenues [In reply to] Can't Post

All they have to do is raise ticket prices 50% or so. Is that as unbelievable?

Mad

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