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Morthoron
Gondor


Apr 28 2012, 3:11am

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The Hobbit in 1D and 0 FPS... Can't Post

Yes, The Hobbit in one dimension at a zero framerate.

You can rewind, repeat, fast-forward, skip and hold. You can go as fast or as slowly through the story as you wish. You can even take a nap and start up where you left off. You can share it with friends and family or you can hoard it all to yourself.

This technological wonder is called a book. Wink

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Spencissimus
Lorien


Apr 28 2012, 3:17am

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DanielLB
Immortal


Apr 28 2012, 6:45am

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There's a book?! / [In reply to] Can't Post

 


dormouse
Half-elven

Apr 28 2012, 8:30am

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Is your book only 1D? [In reply to] Can't Post

Mine's at least 3..... Wink


geordie
Tol Eressea

Apr 28 2012, 9:12am

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My copies [In reply to] Can't Post

have length, and breadth. And depth.


Xanaseb
Tol Eressea


Apr 28 2012, 10:53am

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But... but., I have to read words then!........// [In reply to] Can't Post

FrownCrazy

The Lord of the Hams:

There is only one lord of the ham...and he does not share ham

If this is indeed the ham of the council, Hamdor will fry it done.

This is no rabble of mindless porks, these are Hamak-Hai: their steak is thick, and their bacon broad

(courtesy of moreham and HamTheEast)



(This post was edited by Xanaseb on Apr 28 2012, 10:53am)


Morthoron
Gondor


Apr 28 2012, 12:15pm

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Yes, but the pages are 1D, unless of course you read Braille. [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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geordie
Tol Eressea

Apr 28 2012, 12:59pm

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strictly speaking [In reply to] Can't Post

 pages in all books have two dimensions - length and breadth.

As it happens, I also have a 3 - dimensional copy of TH - it's a pop-up book, with pictures by John Howe.

Right here.


(This post was edited by Ataahua on Apr 28 2012, 9:37pm)


dormouse
Half-elven

Apr 28 2012, 1:35pm

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Depth too.... [In reply to] Can't Post

.. because they always curve a bit when the book's open. Then there are all the dimensions they open in your mind...

And no - I can't trump the pop-up version! Wink


xxxyyy
Rohan

Apr 28 2012, 1:39pm

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A point frozen in time. I don't like the book too. [In reply to] Can't Post

Let's hope PJ improves on it.

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DanielLB
Immortal


Apr 28 2012, 1:44pm

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Anybody would have thought we don't have anything to discuss ;-) / [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Morthoron
Gondor


Apr 28 2012, 2:16pm

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Decorum prohibits me... [In reply to] Can't Post

from replying to your post with the disdain it deserves. Let's leave it at that.

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Chopsta123
Gondor


Apr 28 2012, 2:23pm

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Pages are at least 2D [In reply to] Can't Post

0D is a point
1D is a line
2D is a rectangle (or a page)
3D is a cube


Pipe Dream
Gondor


Apr 28 2012, 2:30pm

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Must it first not be comprehended by the mind? [In reply to] Can't Post

And is thought not a dimension in and of itself?

"There is a long road yet," said Gandalf. "But it is the last road," said Bilbo.


dernwyn
Forum Admin / Moderator


Apr 28 2012, 2:46pm

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This is a point-less conversation. [In reply to] Can't Post

Angelic

*waits for pun thread to erupt...*


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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"

"It struck me last night that you might write a fearfully good romantic drama, with as much of the 'supernatural' as you cared to introduce. Have you ever thought of it?"
-Geoffrey B. Smith, letter to JRR Tolkien, 1915




geordie
Tol Eressea

Apr 28 2012, 2:57pm

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'scuse me asking - [In reply to] Can't Post

- does that mean a circle is one-dimensional? 'cos that's what I remember about maths at school - a circle consists of one line, as opposed to a triangle say, or a square.

And, what about a sine wave? What does Euclid have to say about all this?


DanielLB
Immortal


Apr 28 2012, 3:14pm

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This is too much for the weekend ;-) / [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Chopsta123
Gondor


Apr 28 2012, 3:18pm

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here I go... [In reply to] Can't Post

normally you are right but the moment you bend it, it covers an area while a line cant cover an area.
To calculate the area you square the radius and multiply with pie, so the radius forms your two dimensions: Area = Pie x Radius(squared)
Didnt know I would do maths today :) Any one else hungry for pie?


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SirDennisC
Half-elven


Apr 28 2012, 4:26pm

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The fifth dimension! [In reply to] Can't Post

Anyway, like the surface of a page in a book, any projected image is still only 2D. It is only by a trick of the mind that a "3D" movie -- at any frame rate -- is perceived as 3 dimensional.

For that matter film has always implied 3D (or space) by the simple fact of recording space. But the image remains 2D. (Which leads to my conclusion that the success of photographic media has always been based on our willingness to believe a lie. Wink)


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Apr 28 2012, 4:28pm

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Flagg
Tol Eressea


Apr 28 2012, 4:42pm

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Well, each page is really a three-dimensional object [In reply to] Can't Post

They're not infinitely thin – they've got thickness (albeit negligible) as well as length and width.

Thanks for the link, by the way – I had no idea that Howe had created such detailed artwork of Smaug. I certainly wouldn't mind seeing a similar design in the film.


shadowdog
Rohan

Apr 28 2012, 6:16pm

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OK [In reply to] Can't Post

Apple, cherry or pizza??? Evil


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Apr 28 2012, 7:23pm

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Silverlode
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Apr 28 2012, 8:04pm

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Perhaps. [In reply to] Can't Post

Or maybe it satisfies our desire to be able to fold the world up and carry it around in our pockets...


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(Which leads to my conclusion that the success of photographic media has always been based on our willingness to believe a lie. Wink)


Silverlode

"Of all faces those of our familiares are the ones both most difficult to play fantastic tricks with, and most difficult really to see with fresh attention. They have become like the things which once attracted us by their glitter, or their colour, or their shape, and we laid hands on them, and then locked them in our hoard, acquired them, and acquiring ceased to look at them.
Creative fantasy, because it is mainly trying to do something else [make something new], may open your hoard and let all the locked things fly away like cage-birds. The gems all turn into flowers or flames, and you will be warned that all you had (or knew) was dangerous and potent, not really effectively chained, free and wild; no more yours than they were you."
-On Fairy Stories


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Apr 28 2012, 10:36pm

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Perhaps you are thinking of the audiobook. [In reply to] Can't Post

The pages in all of my books are at least two-dimensional (three, if they are pop-up).

"Darkness beyond blackest pitch, deeper than the deepest night!
King of Darkness, who shines like gold upon the Sea of Chaos.
I call upon thee and swear myself to thee!
Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed by the power you and I possess!"

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