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Mithrandír
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Mar 27 2012, 9:03pm

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I'm hoping it will touch upon the music for the hobbit, and maybe show us some tidbits of Howard Shore!

Or perhaps some stuff about the stunt crew and some of weta's work so far..?

What do you guys think or hope the next production video will touch upon?Smile

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Welsh hero
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Mar 27 2012, 9:54pm

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seeing as each film was at a point of some kind of milestone [In reply to] Can't Post

1 - begining of production
2 - end of block 1
3 - London filming
4 - Start of block 2
5 - end of block 2
6 - start of block 3

I'd imagine the next will be with another milestone. So most likely half way in to block 3. it'll go in to some of the post production

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duats
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Mar 27 2012, 10:12pm

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I will keep asking for a glimpse at Beorn or Radagast [In reply to] Can't Post

Until my pleas are heard XD.


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Longbottom Leaf
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Mar 27 2012, 11:12pm

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I'm witchu Duats! [In reply to] Can't Post

Just a little glimpse will do

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Thorins_apprentice
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Mar 28 2012, 2:32am

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Here's what i'd like to see. [In reply to] Can't Post

A snippet of Thorins dialogue/Talking
More Location shooting.
Duats is right, also a glimpse of Beorn or Radagast would be swell.Cool

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Mar 28 2012, 2:45am

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I'd like to see more of Ann Maskrey and her costume team [In reply to] Can't Post

But I'm sure that comes as no surprise Cool

Generally, I like seeing more of the people behind the scenes that made the LOTR documentaries so interesting to me. Stuff like the caterers that we saw in the last one or the chain mail duo from LOTR.


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Mar 28 2012, 3:53am

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The Elvenking [In reply to] Can't Post

I'd like to see a glimpse of Lee Pace as Thranduil...
I still cant picture him as the character in my mind =)


Milknut
Rohan


Mar 28 2012, 6:20am

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Frames of footage [In reply to] Can't Post

relating to production, arranged chronologically.

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Milknut
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Mar 28 2012, 6:21am

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I don't really think they'll reveal characters that way.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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DanielLB
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Mar 28 2012, 7:08am

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I don't think [In reply to] Can't Post

we will get to see that in the next vlog. While they are still filming block 3 and the second film, I am sure there will be plenty to still tease us with. I suspect the next vlog will be on block 3, and perhaps the logistics of filming multiple films, getting actors in the right places etc. It may also touch on graphic and CGI and perhaps the post-production for the first film. If PJ keeps giving us video blogs up until the film/s releases, I think that score and music will be a later one (if at all). Smile


Zherkezhi
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Mar 28 2012, 7:16am

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A day in the life of a hobbit?// [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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QuackingTroll
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Mar 28 2012, 10:50am

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Perhaps some Richard Taylor on miniatures, armour, weapons etc? // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Fertlthewhite
Bree


Mar 29 2012, 5:19am

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or... (what I lilke to see) [In reply to] Can't Post

Recording sounds? or Digital doubles...


QuackingTroll
Valinor


Mar 29 2012, 12:17pm

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I want to see the digital doubles, just because of this quote... [In reply to] Can't Post


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"The technology gets better. Everything that we were pioneering on LOTR has now become a well-organised pipeline." For one thing, digital acting - synthesping - has stepped up a gear. "We showed people Martin's CGI double and they thought they were looking at the actual Martin," smiles Jackson. "I think he was bit freaked out by it..."


It's probably just hype. But if the doubles look as good as Avatar and Tintin then it'll be impossible to tell what's real and what isn't, if it's shot right.

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imin
Valinor

Mar 29 2012, 3:02pm

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It should be as good if not better than avatar right? [In reply to] Can't Post

Just due to time to get more advanced CGI etc and more knowledgeable in how to use it?

I do think avatar looks incredible. I know people think it looks fake, but that is the colours in my opinion not because it had mediocre CGI.

I am really looking forward to it, i think Smaug will look incredible. I love John Howe's image of Smaug and would like it to look something like that.


On a side not tintin had amazing CGI as well, the ocean looked completely real in the scenes they were on the boat, i was amazed. Obviously the characters themselves didnt look totally real but that was due to making them look a certain way and not wanting them to look totally real. And as we know PJ produced tintin so maybe he has a few tricks from that which he can bring to TH?


Fertlthewhite
Bree


Mar 29 2012, 3:50pm

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got to be CGI-Stuff or Set-building perhaps... [In reply to] Can't Post

 


QuackingTroll
Valinor


Mar 29 2012, 7:36pm

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I don't think anyone can say Avatar looked fake... [In reply to] Can't Post

Those that do can't really know much about computer animation. The human face is the hardest thing to replicate synthetically with any art form. Avatar and Benjamin Button are the only films that have done this on a genuinely believable level. There have been many 'good' examples, but Avatar was such a huge jump and there are really very, VERY few faults. People who say it looks fake must be thinking "people aren't blue" and when people are that stupid their opinion doesn't really count.

It's hard to say whether The Hobbit will be as good or better. A lot of things come into play other than time and budget. How long a double is seen for or how far away it is in the scene, how it's lit or what environment it's in can really effect the detail that they put it. Usually they'll reduce detail or lighting effects to reduce render time, which hopefully won't be an issue here.

If you're interested I recommend this talk on sculpting a CGI head... http://youtu.be/jUIfiLplNqQ

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QuackingTroll
Valinor


Mar 29 2012, 8:06pm

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I'll also point out that Avatar and Tintin both had CGI environments... [In reply to] Can't Post

It's one thing to render a CGI model in a CGI environment and another to convincingly place a CGI model in a live-action environment. It has to be anchored correctly to camera movements and lit correctly. If there's even a tiny mistake on how a model reacts to its environment the illusion can be completely ruined.

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QuackingTroll
Valinor


Mar 29 2012, 10:40pm

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Peter Jackson is approaching 500K fans on Facebook. [In reply to] Can't Post

Didn't want to make a separate thread for this so posted it here... Think anything will be released to celebrate?

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imin
Valinor

Mar 29 2012, 10:46pm

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Thanks for the link [In reply to] Can't Post

Was a very interesting watch as are most TED lectures. Its incredible they had one person working on the tongue of Benjamin for 9 months! I have watched benjamin button but i dont think until now i had seen the CGI if that makes sense, as it was a great story and due to it being so life like my mind just accepted it as old brad, normal brad, young brad. So much work and talent gone into that one film, i can only hope with a budget of half a billion the two hobbit movies will be just as great CGI wise at least.


Eowyn of Penns Woods
Valinor


Mar 29 2012, 11:00pm

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Well. Okayyyy, then. I guess there's no point in explaining [In reply to] Can't Post

why I thought Avatar (what little I saw of it, admittedly) looked fake for completely different reasons than what you've assumed. :/

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QuackingTroll
Valinor


Mar 29 2012, 11:14pm

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But how? [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm not talking about creatures and environments (some of them were a little off) but the main characters, the human body doubles and the Na'vi are extremely convincing. I'm not saying perfect but to say they looked "fake" just doesn't make sense, especially when people say how real Gollum looked. The Na'vi are clearly a massive improvement.

http://www.widewallpapers.net/...er-1920x1080-003.jpg

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DanielLB
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Mar 30 2012, 9:16am

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I always wonder [In reply to] Can't Post

Is it actually him behind the computer? Or is it a representative that gets told by PJ what to write? I don't expect anything when he reaches 500k


QuackingTroll
Valinor


Mar 30 2012, 5:24pm

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I think it's actually him... I'm expecting him to post something on Monday... [In reply to] Can't Post

I remember when he was making King Kong he released this on the 1st of April... http://youtu.be/oeucP9q0BqY

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dormouse
Half-elven

Mar 30 2012, 5:49pm

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Hadn't seen that before, that was funny [In reply to] Can't Post

Best part was Richard Taylor not quite managing to keep a straight face!

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