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Noble Collection Chess Set

lucianop
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Feb 20 2012, 3:09pm

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I purchased chess set from ebay. The Certificate of Authenticity was missing. Is there anybody out there who can help me get one? Since I did not purchase from Noble Collection, they will not send me one without an order number. If I had this number they would send me one.


DanielLB
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Feb 20 2012, 3:39pm

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is to email the person that sold it to you. Did they advertise it as new or used. Will you be using it, or keeping it as a collection item? It's only ever going to be a problem if you want to re-sell it


lucianop
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Feb 20 2012, 3:51pm

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Seller said it was new in box. Set is in mint condition. I am a collector and wanted to get the certificate to add to my collection. The Noble Customer Service rep said they would send me this certificate only if I purchased from them.
So anyone who bought this could call and get a new certificate.


Magpie
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Feb 20 2012, 4:48pm

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say I had the set. I could call and get an extra certificate but if it is tied to my set, that means the duplicate I give to you lessens the authenticity of my set.

If it is just a 'generic' authenticity, then it still proves problematic because I don't know that your set is authentic. I would be helping you provide authenticity so that your possibly inauthentic set would seem more valuable than it is - and could serve to possibly defraud another purchaser in the future.

I think Noble has it right. As a consumer, you wouldn't want them giving certificates to sets they don't know are authentic. You may feel your set is authentic but if the certificate is that important to you, you should return it to the seller.

But I don't think you should essentially bypass the certification process - which is set up to maintain absolute certification - or ask one of us to participate in doing so.

And I would be careful what steps you take to obtain a certificate because if you use a devious method to obtain the certificate and then use it to sell the set in the future, you could be in legal trouble.

If you are not planning to sell the set then what does the certificate matter? It only matters if you wish to place value on the set and it only has value if you sell it.


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(This post was edited by Magpie on Feb 20 2012, 4:50pm)


lucianop
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Feb 20 2012, 5:08pm

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I have no plans of selling this set. I never new it came with a certificate untill I saw another set posted with a picture of the certificate. I bought this set below the selling price of what Noble wanted for it. I just wanted to get the certificate because it would add to my collection display. I have a very large display of collector items. Anyway that is what collecting is all about. Trying to fill empty voids in your missing collection.


entmaiden
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Feb 20 2012, 5:13pm

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I think you should contact the seller [In reply to] Can't Post

It's possible they have the certificate. However, as Magpie said, getting a certificate from a different set is dishonest and does not validate your purchase.


DanielLB
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Feb 20 2012, 5:30pm

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Definitely contact the seller [In reply to] Can't Post

and ask where the certificate is. If your really not happy, send it back to them and then purchase one off of Noble.


lucianop
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Feb 20 2012, 7:43pm

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I like your idea of contacting the seller. I will do this and hope he has the certificate. My only concern
is that these sets were made in 2001, and the seller is not the original owner. He probably pick this up
from an Estate auction. Not many people would pay $500.00 for a chess set. I am in this category,
62 years old and have money to burn. The seller is in business and sells many other items on ebay.
As for sending it back. I would never do that. I saved at least $150.00 on this set. For me to buy from
Noble would cost $500.00 plus $20.00 shipping and handling. I am very happy with the set. I have it
displayed in a glass bookcase along with many other collction pieces.
I reposition the different chess pieces evey week. The set is truly a work of art. I just hope I can finish
it off with the certificate.


DanielLB
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Feb 20 2012, 7:51pm

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Confused [In reply to] Can't Post

You said in your previous post that the chess set was new in box? Does this mean completely new, or someone had bought it, opened it, then boxed it back up (i.e. like new, not used)? Otherwise, it is a bit strange that the certificate isn't still in the original box.

I'd probably pay the extra money just so I knew what I was getting. That's just me though Sly

Edit: what I'm asking and should of worded better, is: when you recieved the box was it completely new (i.e. never been opened before).


(This post was edited by DanielLB on Feb 20 2012, 7:55pm)


Otaku-sempai
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Feb 20 2012, 9:11pm

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No way this could be a fake? [In reply to] Can't Post

I notice that no one is addressing the possibility that this item could be a fake. Would it be unthinkably difficult for this to be the case?

At any rate, without the certificate of authenticity, I think that the claim of "new in box" can be considered to be false advertizing and a good reason to return the set for a full refund, if that is what you decide to do.

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Not all those who wander are lost.


DanielLB
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Feb 20 2012, 10:18pm

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Yeah, that is what I was trying to tease out with my last post [In reply to] Can't Post

Although didn't want to directly suggest that they had bought a fake Crazy


DanielLB
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Feb 28 2012, 3:10pm

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Has there been any outcome? / [In reply to] Can't Post

 


lucianop
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Feb 28 2012, 3:32pm

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I have given up hope. I wanted to get the certificate and place it in a frame with my other collectables.
My other items in my collection will keep me happy. My favorite is the program from Madison Square Garden when I went to see The Fellowship of the Ring with Howard Shore.


Magpie
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Feb 28 2012, 10:41pm

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DanielLB
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Feb 29 2012, 7:54am

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What did the original seller say? [In reply to] Can't Post

If it was advertised as new in box and mint condition then the certificate must be somewhere. I would be kicking up a right fuss!

 
 

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