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MatthewJer18
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Jan 9 2012, 7:37pm
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Underrated moments in the trilogy
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Any particular scenes that you think are unfairly maligned by some fans or, worse, not mentioned at all despite being especially praiseworthy? These scenes could range from the small and easily missed to the large and clearly noticeable.
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Rostron2
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Jan 9 2012, 9:49pm
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I always thought that the way the Hunters met up with Gandalf the White again was nicely done, overlaying the idea of Saruman speaking with Gandalf.
I liked the shot of the Rohan flag fluttering down to where Aragorn saw it on the grass. A tiny bit, but spoke volumes.
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Spencissimus
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Jan 9 2012, 10:51pm
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Not so much a moment maligned by fans...
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...but definately one that slips under the radar. In a viewing of the Fellowship a couple of months back, I set a new record for tearing up while watching the trilogy...9 minutes and 40-odd seconds in 
It was in the extended introduction to the Shire by Bilbo, when his narration says "But where our hearts truly lie is in peace and quiet and good, tilled earth. For all hobbits share a love for things that grow. And, yes, no doubt to others, our ways seem quaint. But today of all days, it is brought home to me: It is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life."
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Black Breathalizer
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Jan 10 2012, 1:08am
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In the theatrical release, I always teared up at the first shot of Hobbiton as we hear the Howard Shore soundtrack while seeing the backs of Gandalf and Frodo in the horse drawn cart as they ride through a cut in the road.
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Lissuin
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Jan 10 2012, 2:14am
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I've never seen a mention of Eomer finding Eowyn
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on the battlefield and thinking she is dead. Here is this hardened warrior completely undone emotionally. His scream of grief is so convincing it rips my heart out every time.
I love the brief shot of Rosie dancing with her arms swaying in the air at the birthday party. I think of it in darker moments of the film as Sam might have.
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Jan 10 2012, 2:53am
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just one scene from the ROTK EE inserted the theatrical version, it would be Eomer finding his sister on the Pelennor.
If I could have two, I'd add the opening flower on the White Tree as Denethor walks passed.
Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
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BallyWhooo
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Jan 10 2012, 3:21am
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FOTR: Aragorn sweeping the vines off his mother's tombstone. The music is so pure and haunting.
TTT: The flyover camera shot of Fangorn (and the orchestral underscoring) in the EE as Treebeard recites The Dreams of Trees
ROTK: Gandalf sitting dejectedly in some unspecified alley or doorstoop in Gondor and the bell mournfully clanging the hour (the fiddle is so "right")
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Black Breathalizer
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Jan 10 2012, 4:17am
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Ataahua wrote: If I could have just one scene from the ROTK EE inserted the theatrical version, it would be Eomer finding his sister on the Pelennor.
If I could have just one scene from the FOTR EE inserted in the theatrical version, it would have Frodo whispering to Gandalf whether he should turn left or right as the Fellowship left Rivendell followed by the last look between Aragorn and Arwen.
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FoundEntwife
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Jan 10 2012, 5:00am
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I don't know of this counts as underrated but in The Two Towers it's the scene where Gandalf calls Shadowfax and Shadowfax makes his first appearance in slow motion and then he, Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli ride off towards The Golden Hall and you see the gorgeous background of the mountains. The music that underscores it just gives me chills.
This tale grew in the telling. . .
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Rostron2
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Jan 10 2012, 5:09am
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I knew at that moment we were seeing a great film. I just knew it.
The other two bits of scene that didn't make it to the theatrical release, but that I think are really nice are the scene with Elrond and Aragorn at Gilraen's memorial stone. I also find the Galadriel/Aragorn farewell at Lorien nicely done. "either to rise above the height of all your fathers since the days of Elendil, or to fall into darkness with all that is left of your kin..."
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Alientraveller
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Jan 10 2012, 9:47am
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I mean, opinions on the trilogy are so diverse it's hard for me to think of a scene everyone ignores. However, I always remember people complaining the Entmoot detracted from the battle of Helm's Deep: I disagreed, as I concurred with PJ and his editors that too much battle would induce fatigue, and the depressing realisation that the Ents will not join the war accurately echoes the misfortunes of the heroes at the damaged wall. I love how hope fades and returns as the scenes cut between the Ents deciding this is not their war, the heroes retreating from the wall and the keep, Pippin tricking Treebeard, Frodo demanding he bet let go, the Last March of the Ents, the first seeds of doubt in Faramir before "Forth Eorlingas!", the Flooding of Isengard and Sam's narration of the tales that mattered.
As someone who enjoys pointing out differences between Tolkien and Jackson to imagine my 'ideal' version of LOTR, one change that always sticks out at me is the moment where Gandalf reads the statement of Isildur and it's dated 3434. This acknowledges the siege of Barad-dur did not take place in the movieverse, that it is indeed an alternate reality, and is a prime example of how carefully aware Pete, Fran and Philippa were with the changes while forging ahead with their own interpretation.
"Sure, it's not really The Lord of the Rings, but it could still be a pretty damn cool movie." - PJ
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Gorbag
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Jan 10 2012, 6:15pm
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Gandalf convincing Bilbo to leave the ring behind at Bag End.
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Im not really sure how praised the scene at Bag End with Gandalf and Bilbo is, but its always stuck out for me.
"If more of us valued food and cheer above hoarded gold, it would be a much merrier world."
— J.R.R. Tolkien
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Nightingale
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Jan 10 2012, 6:32pm
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The look on Gandalf's face changing
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when Frodo says that he can't see any writing on the ring, and then he can. That change from relief to the certainty of an impending doom and hard task ahead is beautifully captured.
I don't know if it's under-rated, but it's certainly a small moment.
"You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me" - C. S. Lewis
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Black Breathalizer
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Jan 10 2012, 6:50pm
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Another priceless look on Gandalf's face moment was when Frodo said, "I will take the ring to Mordor" at the Council of Elrond.
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.Ithilwen.
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Jan 10 2012, 7:14pm
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Another priceless look on Gandalf's face moment was when Frodo said, "I will take the ring to Mordor" at the Council of Elrond.
I think that's probably my favorite Gandalf moment...
Though I do love Ian McKellen's facial expressions, particularly his eyes, throughout his entire Gandalf performance.
Ah! like gold fall the leaves in the wind,
Long years numberless as the wings of trees!
The long years have passed like swift draughts
Of the sweet mead in lofty halls
Beyond the West, beneath the blue vaults of Varda
Wherein the stars tremble
In the voice of her song, holy and queenly...
-Namárië
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Kristin Thompson
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Jan 10 2012, 8:06pm
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These are two shots, really, rather than whole scenes. First, I was very impressed when I first saw the peaceful morning shot of the misty Shire with the Black Rider's horse suddenly coming into the frame from the right, with a dramatic change of music. Very effective as a way of conveying the idea that the Riders have reached the Shire. Second, the extreme long shot of the eastern side of Moria as the Fellowship members emerge from the gate. The expanse of wrinkled rocks make the shot look as if the film has suddenly gone into black and white; the only color visible is a little triangle of blue sky at the upper right. As the camera pans with the characters, the shot seems to seep back into color. Again, an effective transition from the gloomy mines into the outdoors. I don't recall seeing references to these moments in reviews, but they're among the many touches that make me admire Andrew Lesnie's cinematography a great deal. I think he deserved to be nominated for and win a second Oscar for Return of the King. (For those who don't recall, he won one of the four Oscars given to Fellowship but was oddly overlooked for Return.)
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Alientraveller
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Jan 10 2012, 8:23pm
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http://www.framecaplib.com/lotrlib/html/episodes/images/fotr/fotr0325.htm
I must've seen FOTR a billion times now but never realized this was a Ringwraith. I always thought it was Gandalf's horse as the next shot is of him riding to Isengard! PJ's a tricksy director, yes.
"Sure, it's not really The Lord of the Rings, but it could still be a pretty damn cool movie." - PJ
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Kristin Thompson
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Jan 10 2012, 8:31pm
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I assume the idea is to point up that the Shire is in danger and Gandalf is way off at Isengard (and about to be locked up) and unable to help.
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Nightingale
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Jan 10 2012, 9:05pm
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"You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me" - C. S. Lewis
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Mooseboy018
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Jan 10 2012, 9:37pm
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Merry's little scene with Eowyn when he says "I'm a hobbit, and I know I can't save Middle-earth. I just want to help my friends... More than anything I wish I could see them again."
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Xanaseb
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Jan 10 2012, 10:38pm
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The Lighting of the Beacons......oh wait.....underrated???
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Sean Bean's acting in the EE extra shots....
IMO it changes a lot for me....
At first I wasnt that impressed with his acting, as the Theatrical edition didnt show that much of his acting......EE Boromir was A-M-A-Z-I-N-G
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Black Breathalizer
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Jan 11 2012, 12:24am
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At Helm's Deep when the boy says to Aragorn, "they say that it is hopeless." I never tire of seeing him look into the boy's eyes and respond: "There is ALWAYS hope"
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Reptile
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Jan 11 2012, 2:20am
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This scene made Boromir much more interesting
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That scene between Boromir and Faramir, as brothers, really brought him down to earth and showed the quality of his character.
"If you listen closely, you can hear the gods laughing."
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Lissuin
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Jan 11 2012, 4:25am
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And then Arwen says it to Elrond also.
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They are the only two who say it in the films, aren't they? Coincidence?
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