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Tolkien Artists, The Bros. Hildebrandt: Loose Ends and That's All Folks
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dernwyn
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Feb 20 2007, 3:56pm

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The cover of the original Grotta bio! [In reply to] Can't Post

That's one of the Hildebrandts that I'm actually fond of! The cover of my 1992 edition of that book replaced that with "JRR Tolkien" spelled out in tree-trunks. My edition does have 15 other Hildebrandts located throughout; do you know if the original had any, other than on the cover?

The bio itself has some nice details not found in Carpenter's.


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dernwyn
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Feb 20 2007, 4:07pm

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"Journey in the Dark" is the chapter title [In reply to] Can't Post

but that painting really should be titled "Attack of the Wargs", since that's what's happening (the Wargs being located at the viewer's standpoint...hmm, maybe the Hildebrandts were saying something about those who don't care for their pics?).

I like "Unexpected Party" also! The Dwarves playing their instruments are not done comically, and even their Bilbo, who's sitting there downcast, overwhelmed by what's been happening.


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Valinor


Feb 21 2007, 1:10am

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mine has two Hildebrandts on the cover [In reply to] Can't Post


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That's one of the Hildebrandts that I'm actually fond of! The cover of my 1992 edition of that book replaced that with "JRR Tolkien" spelled out in tree-trunks. My edition does have 15 other Hildebrandts located throughout; do you know if the original had any, other than on the cover?

The bio itself has some nice details not found in Carpenter's.




Interesting. My "new ed edition", which has a copyright date of 1992 but was apparently printed circa 2002 (to cash in on the movie hysteria, I suppose) has two Hildebrandts on the cover but no illustrations inside.

Boy, it got bad reviews at Amazon.

Shocked

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"an seileachan"

The Lost Mod Power: An Elegy (with apologies to Wordsworth)

What though the mod power which was once so bright
Be now FOREVER taken from my sight,
Though nothing can bring back the hour
Of splendor in the stats, of glory in the power,
We will grieve not, rather find
Strength in what remains behind.


dernwyn
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Feb 22 2007, 4:56am

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Yes, yours is a decade newer [In reply to] Can't Post

I took a look through the reviews! Seems like either people didn't realize that when reading it, they must understand that it was written before the Sil came out and when Tolkien's family had already selected an official biographer; or they didn't care for the Hildebrandt collection; or they knew how old it was and complained that it had not been updated with Sil information.

It does have its innacuracies, but I've found it to be a pleasurable companion to the Carpenter bio!


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Valinor


Feb 22 2007, 12:17pm

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mine has an Epilogue chapter [In reply to] Can't Post


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I took a look through the reviews! Seems like either people didn't realize that when reading it, they must understand that it was written before the Sil came out and when Tolkien's family had already selected an official biographer; or they didn't care for the Hildebrandt collection; or they knew how old it was and complained that it had not been updated with Sil information.

Well, maybe if they ordered it online without looking through the pages, but luckily I bought mine on the sale table at B&N (one year in the post Christmas sale markdowns...I got it for I think $2!) and it is clearly "updated" in the sense that it has an epilogue discussing the fact that "in 1977 Tolkien published the Sil" etc. A short chapter on the Sil is included in this edition (the one I bought). I had read it years ago, pre Epilogue date. I think it was the first bio I ever read of Tolkien, except for maybe Carpenter's "The Inklings".

"an seileachan"

The Lost Mod Power: An Elegy (with apologies to Wordsworth)

What though the mod power which was once so bright
Be now FOREVER taken from my sight,
Though nothing can bring back the hour
Of splendor in the stats, of glory in the power,
We will grieve not, rather find
Strength in what remains behind.


N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Feb 23 2007, 11:19pm

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Tolkien the time-traveller? [In reply to] Can't Post

And what city is supposed to be in the background?


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You can imagine that as one of the 13 dwarves telling the story of Bilbo's quest to the Professor. Is there any particular story behind that painting?


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N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Feb 23 2007, 11:23pm

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"breathes life into Tolkien" [In reply to] Can't Post

I think the reviewer meant that people would get to see the author as a real person not just the creator of a beloved tale, there having been I think only one poor (and little-read? I'm thinking of William Ready's book) full-length biography of Tolkien to date when Grotta-Kurska's work appeared.


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I note that the cover of the biography promises to "breathe[] life into J.R.R. Tolkien." That strikes me as odd. If you don't find LotR lively enough, I hardly think that accounts of languages learned, papers graded and deadlines missed are going to change your views.

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Detail from earliest version of Thror's MapTolkien Illustrated! Jan. 29-May 20: Visit the Reading Room to discuss art by John Howe, Alan Lee, Ted Nasmith and others, including Tolkien himself.

Feb. 19-25: The Hobbit.


N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Feb 23 2007, 11:34pm

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Orcs did wear cloaks. [In reply to] Can't Post


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The Seige of Minas tirith: Another good one. Love the angles and point of view from the seige tower. Just one question, do orcs wear cloaks?


Sam and Frodo took some as disguises in the Tower of Cirith Ungol.

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Detail from earliest version of Thror's MapTolkien Illustrated! Jan. 29-May 20: Visit the Reading Room to discuss art by John Howe, Alan Lee, Ted Nasmith and others, including Tolkien himself.

Feb. 19-25: The Hobbit.


N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Feb 23 2007, 11:40pm

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More Arwen in the books than most readers catch. [In reply to] Can't Post


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I will say that I would have liked to have seen more of Arwen in LotR (the book, not the movie!)...]


Not more than you caught, I'm sure, but as Richard West emphasizes in the first part of his essay on Aragorn and Arwen in the Marquette proceedings, Tolkien worked in a fair number of subtle references to Arwen (though even West misses a couple) that only become clear on subsequent readings.

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Detail from earliest version of Thror's MapTolkien Illustrated! Jan. 29-May 20: Visit the Reading Room to discuss art by John Howe, Alan Lee, Ted Nasmith and others, including Tolkien himself.

Feb. 19-25: The Hobbit.


N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Feb 23 2007, 11:44pm

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"a heavy front plane" [In reply to] Can't Post


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...The normally heavy front plane is broken instead by a “triangle” of light, contrasting nicely by 2 triangles of shadow adding great visual interest (as contrast will)....
"The Siege of Minas Tirith" (1977)
This one is OK. It doesn’t have a heavy front plane, which is good for me...


I like that explanation, which clarifies my dissatisfaction with the BH's use of a shadowed foreground.

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Detail from earliest version of Thror's MapTolkien Illustrated! Jan. 29-May 20: Visit the Reading Room to discuss art by John Howe, Alan Lee, Ted Nasmith and others, including Tolkien himself.

Feb. 19-25: The Hobbit.

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