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Nov 30 2011, 12:36pm
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Amazon releases a list of top ten film series. Lord of the rings second
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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/...re-order-record.html
1. Harry Potter
2. The Lord of the Rings
3. Twilight
4. Star Wars
5. Pirates of the Caribbean
6. Toy Story
7. Shrek
8. Batman
9. Jason Bourne
10. James Bond
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Faenoriel
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Nov 30 2011, 2:14pm
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to see LotR topping Twilight, especially considering how much older LotR is. But then again, LotR has wider appeal.
Or is the list based on how many tickets these franchises have sold in theaters? Instead of how much they've sold in Amazon?
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DanielLB
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Nov 30 2011, 2:49pm
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Or is the list based on how many tickets these franchises have sold in theaters? Instead of how much they've sold in Amazon?
The list is only based upon pre-ordered DVDs and blu-rays from Amazon.
There is lack of representation in this list though. There are 5 more HP films than LOTR, so pre-orders for the entire franchise will dwarf LOTR (by 79% as the article suggests). Bit obvious really?
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Nov 30 2011, 3:03pm
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There's also more Bond films that Harry Potter
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but that may be because that most of the films are out after amazon was created
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DanielLB
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Nov 30 2011, 3:11pm
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Amazon went live 1995ish, and as far as I am aware, the majority of James Bond films were before 1995. Plus, and sorry to any James Bond fans out there, I can't really imagine many people pre-order the films that came out on DVD after 1995. Can't imagine it has a massive fanbase?
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Nov 30 2011, 5:44pm
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Aye if we use averages for film gross LOTR comes up top
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not sure if the same can be said about DVDs.
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Faenoriel
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Nov 30 2011, 10:29pm
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James Bond doesn't have massive fanbase?
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It's one of the oldest, best know and (pop)culturally most iconic movie franchises out there. Its fanbase just doesn't consist of same kind of young fans like HP and Twilight, so it might appear smaller, as the fandom isn't as vocal on the net.
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Donry
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Dec 1 2011, 3:52am
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that Star Wars (with six movies) is so low. Knowing that the original three were well before Amazon, I guess that means that re-re-re-re-re-re-release of the original three did not garner a lot of pre-ordering.
And as far as Bond goes, of the younger crowd I know (mostly kids and some teens), it is a 'nothing' franchise. I'm just shy of 40, and among my peers Bond is still a really, really significant movie franchise. I wonder what the age demographics are on Bond these days. There are a couple good Bond fansites out there, but nothing as big it seems as the franchises with some serious youth behind them. And I would think to that a large portion of the Bond fanbase is not to internet savvy....my parents for example, both 65, watched a lot of Connery as Bond, but neither are pre-ordering anything on the internet, let alone spending much time on the internet. And they don't collect movies at all, just wasn't something they were into. So I know I'm generalizing a bit, but I think that older Bond fanbase would not help the numbers in a list like this at all.
I wonder a bit about the Batman franchise as well, the first two Michael Keaton 'Batman' movies did huge numbers at the theatres if I remember, but would probably not have been pre-ordered in large numbers based on when they were released.....I'm guessing the Batman numbers would be very strong for the Bale 'Batman' movies...interesting list though...
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DanielLB
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Dec 1 2011, 9:48am
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That's why I apologised in my post. I've never watched a James Bond movie and don't know anybody that particularly loves it; so I wasn't sure how loved the franchise is 
As yourself and Donry point out, the demographics of the James Bond fanbase are nothing like Twilight and HP, therefore (probably) explaining why it is lower on the list.
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DanielLB
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That's another interesting point!
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I guess that means that re-re-re-re-re-re-release of the original three did not garner a lot of pre-ordering. This point is interesting and one that I hadn't thought of. I would imagine that the list was compiled based upon the first DVD release of each film within the franchise, otherwise I would have thought Star Wars would have been a lot higher. Otherwise, it would have to include all extended editions, director's cuts, re-releases, special editions, boxsets and so on .... If all of these were included then I can't imagine that there would be a massive gap between HP and the rest of the films
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SirDennisC
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Dec 1 2011, 9:20pm
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Related to this is the rise of Internet use and
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comfort levels with ordering things online.
Star Wars aside, Internet use and ordering things online at the time of LOTR's release were nowhere near as common as they are now. Therefore, unless there is a way to adjust the scores (similar to adjusting for inflation) to account for such things, the list is entirely meaningless.
Actually the idea of purchasing DVD's kind of exploded around the release of LOTR. So there is that to consider as well. Not to mention people were still mostly buying movies on VHS at the time of LOTR's release.
Still, it is fun giving HP fans false hope.   
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DanielLB
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Still, it is fun giving HP fans false hope
We'll need to start compiling a list of reasons why this list is void and send it off to Amazon
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Yeah, there are too many variables here. I, for one...
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would not pre-order something I wanted badly if I can go out to Best Buy and get it the same day. Amazon charges extra for day of release delivery.
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SirDennisC
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Dec 2 2011, 6:20pm
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essentially what the list tells us is that HP fans are not savvy shoppers?
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Dec 2 2011, 6:26pm
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What I found was that different retailers had different versions of HP DH2 DVDs (and perhaps Blu-ray but I don't shop for Blu-ray).
Walmart - and only Walmart - had a version of the DVD that had all the extras found on the Blu-ray release. I heard that Best Buy also had a special, exclusive version but I don't know what it was. I wanted the extras and went with Walmart.
I'm not a huge fan of Walmart but even under $25 it was free shipping so you can't beat that. I also got a great deal with them years back on the LOTR Limited Edition DVDs.
So, I would order online even if I could buy it local, sometimes. And maybe some of us were savvier than it would appear. :-)
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Dec 9 2011, 4:48pm
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So I wonder if it is world-wide sales.
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