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" The Lord of the Rings and Philosophy" one book to rule them all

Ceilidh
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Sep 8 2007, 1:48am

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edited by Gregory Bassman and Eric Bronson. I mentioned this book to several of my new friends at the Woot Moot and said I'd send the information. it's a book of essays by various "deep thinkers" of our times. all the authors are Tolkien fans. it was an interesting read and added another level to the books.
still groovin' on my memories of the fun at D*C.


N.E. Brigand
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Sep 8 2007, 4:28am

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Is it true that Kenny Rogers is one of the "deep thinkers" there cited? [In reply to] Can't Post

http://calimac.livejournal.com/2006/01/16/

Although Rivendell's "perfumed mountains" may just find some support in comments published in the new issue of Parma Eldalamberon: if the Valar and Maiar have a particular fragrance, perhaps the elves likewise, as Bilbo seems to suggest in The Hobbit?

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dernwyn
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Sep 8 2007, 12:13pm

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Well, since Bilbo did say [In reply to] Can't Post

when he first entered Rivendell: "Hmmm! it smells like Elves!", that would seem to indicate some specific olfactory sensation unique to that venue, hopefully a pleasant one.

But rather than the "mountains" of Rivendell, it should be the "valley", tra-la-la-lally, shouldn't it?


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a.s.
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Sep 8 2007, 1:25pm

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It's not as bad as that review implies [In reply to] Can't Post

As someone who has read a good deal of Tolkien criticism and analysis over the years, I still can't call myself a Tolkien "scholar". And yet this book is nowhere near as bad as "Calimac" makes out. Who is Calimac and why is he an expert?

It's definately a "philosophy light" book, an introductory level book about popular culture as viewed and interpreted through different philosophical concepts. So yes, the essays are rather like quick term papers than doctoral theses. Absolutely. The book's in a series entitled "Popular Culture and Philosophy", and can only be but so weighty in nature or tone. There is a chapter that quotes the text of Kenny Rogers' "The Gambler" ("you gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em, know when to walk away, know when to run") in a discussion of the Elves presence and absence from ME and essentially an explanation of the existentialist movement in Europe and WWII, if I remember correctly from glancing through just now. It's the lyrics, not the man, that are quoted.

I received this book as a Christmas present (I believe) and read it without expecting too much, and yet I did find interesting discussion about free will, the nature of evil, and even existentialism. While this book doesn't approach my top 20, and can't perhaps be called Tolkien "scholarship" (whatever that may be), and may even have errors from a philosophy expert's POV (I dunno, I'm not one), it's not a bad book if read for introduction to philosophical concepts as seen in interpretation of popular cultural phenomenon.

Which is, after all, its stated purpose!



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"I can manage it," said Frodo. "I must."


Ceilidh
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Sep 8 2007, 3:59pm

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not neccessarily agreeing with everthing in this book [In reply to] Can't Post

I enjoy reading many different views on most any subject. I found the book to get my gears whirling and think thru things for myself. I agree that it is "philosophy lite" and it still was worth the time spent. to me.
off to think deep thoughts ;->


Elberbeth
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Sep 8 2007, 6:42pm

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Would that be Kenny Rogers the singer, or Kenny Rogers the pitcher?// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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N.E. Brigand
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Sep 8 2007, 8:03pm

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I look forward to reading it. [In reply to] Can't Post

Eventually.
Thanks for the recommendation!

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luinfalathiel
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Sep 10 2007, 10:33am

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Obviously Elves smell like strawberry bubble bath. Duh!! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Sep 11 2007, 10:03am

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