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Bifur, Bofur and Bombur
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Marionette
Rohan


Jul 14 2011, 7:04pm

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Love Bombur [In reply to] Can't Post

Definitely I am happy with these three but Bombur is awesome, so cute!

These dwarves rock, the hot ones Kili and Fili included, and I will be pleased to see some fun with all these guys together. Bombur will make me laugh

Hopefully, I love the dwarves, the Hobbit ones they are funny.

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Mad Hatter of Middle-Earth
Lorien


Jul 14 2011, 7:05pm

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Thank goodness [In reply to] Can't Post

thats not the way its supposed to look! Seven fingers would be ridiculous! Even for a dwarf.

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dave_lf
Gondor

Jul 14 2011, 7:07pm

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?! [In reply to] Can't Post

Why the heck would they be Photoshopping his hands to begin with?


Flagg
Tol Eressea


Jul 14 2011, 7:10pm

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Hey, that's offensive to polydactyls! [In reply to] Can't Post

What would the guy who killed Inigo Montoya's father think if he could hear you now?


mykonos
Bree


Jul 14 2011, 7:10pm

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HAHA nice catch [In reply to] Can't Post

send it in to Photoshop Disasters Laugh


narflet
Bree


Jul 14 2011, 7:15pm

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My guesses... [In reply to] Can't Post

The background has been photoshopped in, so I guess something went (very) wrong with trying to blend the edges of Kili in to the background? Either that or perhaps they were trying to tweak the pose of his hand. All sorts of weird things are done with photoshop!


Phibbus
Rohan


Jul 14 2011, 7:26pm

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I still think... [In reply to] Can't Post

That these photos are green-screened. My guess is that may have been an error in the automated edge-blending (which is pretty amazing, otherwise and better than any I've seen.) That kind of error makes you nervous, though.


maut
Rivendell


Jul 14 2011, 7:46pm

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Haha! [In reply to] Can't Post

Bofur is RussianLaugh
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Far over the misty mountains cold

To dungeons deep and caverns old

We must away ere break of day

To seek the pale enchanted gold.
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Bryan
Bree

Jul 14 2011, 7:47pm

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Has anyone noticed... [In reply to] Can't Post

that every new dwarf image is revealed later in the day than the one before?


Mad Hatter of Middle-Earth
Lorien


Jul 14 2011, 7:55pm

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Haha [In reply to] Can't Post

Not sure! Maybe "Prepare to die!" Smile

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narflet
Bree


Jul 14 2011, 8:17pm

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Certainly [In reply to] Can't Post

For sure, you can tell they are. All promo shots are done this way, you see them every year for tv shows. Actors are shot individually (to ensure everyone has the best look/pose) and then merged together. I don't think they'll have been shot against green screen though, shots like this are either done on a white background or on a set (if shot requires an elaborate background, like the Battlestar/Lost 'last supper' photos, it's easier to take photos of the actors posed on the set on by one and then merge them together than to insert the background).

These have been shot on a plain background, as you can tell from the feet that the background we see is not what they were originally standing on. You can tell that they were shot individually too, from where the characters have been placed over each other (i.e. where they 'overlap'). The person doing the photoshop work would've probably first grouped them together, then put the background in, and finally worked on the details (such as blending the edges with the background and adding in fake shadows). I doubt it was fully automated either, work like this needs to be done by hand.

Something went horribly wrong when they were doing Kili's hand though. No idea why it wasn't caught. The rest of the work looks fairly good. Ironically, the rest of the Kili/Fili image is actually a lot better than the others!


Eldaria
Rivendell


Jul 14 2011, 8:31pm

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separated at birth? [In reply to] Can't Post


In Reply To
By comparison i'm very keen on Bofur's costume ... He does remind me of someone, i'm not sure exactly who

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waaimasjien
Bree

Jul 14 2011, 9:05pm

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Kili's hands [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm guessing Aidan didn't have his sword during the photoshoot, so he had to fake holding one, and thus held his hands in a position that didn't quite fit the picture they had of the sword. The person who photoshopped it either forgot to hide a layer or was trying to be an amazingly fast photoshopper who consequently didn't pay attention to what he was doing.


Phibbus
Rohan


Jul 14 2011, 9:18pm

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The only thing that makes me think green screen... [In reply to] Can't Post

I posted it in the Oin/Gloin thread: If you compare the backgrouinds of Oin/Gloin and Nori/Ori/Dori, you find that they're the same but slightly metamorphosed between the two (the shapes have changed organically and have shifted in position relative to one another.) To me, it indicates that the background was either action-footage of some kind of fog wall or else cgi of a moving pattern, with the two photos being several frame elapses apart. It's not something that would have occurred as a result of 'shop blending, to my eye.

Of course, it is still possible that they used individual frames of footage and inserted them into the white background as you describe... wand, lasso, feathering, etc.. But the edges still have a different look that I'm not used to, and I just thought they might be taking advantage of some of the new capabilities they're using for editing composite shots in the film.


(This post was edited by Phibbus on Jul 14 2011, 9:21pm)


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jul 14 2011, 9:19pm

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That makes really good sense about the Sword.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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namarie
Rohan


Jul 14 2011, 9:40pm

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I dont like it either [In reply to] Can't Post

that "thing sticking out of his head"


There is always hope


Patty
Immortal


Jul 14 2011, 9:41pm

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+ 1 [In reply to] Can't Post

no mohawk for anyone.Crazy

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Eowyn of Penns Woods
Valinor


Jul 14 2011, 9:43pm

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...from their perky little holier-than-thou sister? [In reply to] Can't Post



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namarie
Rohan


Jul 14 2011, 9:54pm

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yep. I think it's the other way around too [In reply to] Can't Post

Dwalin is the bald one and Balin is the gray haired one.


There is always hope


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jul 14 2011, 11:53pm

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I bet he would [In reply to] Can't Post

get great cell phone reception.

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jul 14 2011, 11:55pm

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Aw, can't just have one little one?// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Patty
Immortal


Jul 15 2011, 12:41am

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Nyet. [In reply to] Can't Post

Nein.

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Oiotári
Tol Eressea


Jul 15 2011, 12:42am

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"I don't like to pry [In reply to] Can't Post

but you don't by any chance happen to have six fingers on your right hand?"

"Nope, but I do have seven fingers on my left hand." Angelic


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......no man may ever anchor near;
..No steering star his hope may aim,
......for nether Night its marches drear,
..And waters wide no sail may tame,
......with shores encircled dark and sheer.

..O! Haven where my heart would be!
......the waves beat upon thy bar
..For ever echo endlessly,
......when longing leads thy thought afar


(This post was edited by Oiotári on Jul 15 2011, 12:43am)


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jul 15 2011, 12:47am

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Didn't polydactyls go extinct with the dinosaurs?// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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(This post was edited by Kangi Ska on Jul 15 2011, 12:48am)


Eowyn of Penns Woods
Valinor


Jul 15 2011, 12:52am

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Not even... [In reply to] Can't Post


a fauxhawk fit for a future king?

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