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Faenoriel
Tol Eressea


Jul 13 2011, 1:37am

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The curls would have been good [In reply to] Can't Post

Actually, they could have kept him just the way he looks IRL and he would have been pretty fine hair-wise.

Plus, I think we should have buried Tolkien in a larger coffin, he probably cant turn very well in his. -Rossmonster


Spencissimus
Lorien


Jul 13 2011, 1:40am

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You make some good points, MC Double D! [In reply to] Can't Post

...for me, it seems like with Kili they forgot to adjust his waistline. All the other actors (except maybe Ori, but he still looks stocky) have their belts somewhere that gives the impression that they are actually of a dwarvish build, Aiden Turner appears to have his belt around his actual waist and just looks like a human.


Silverlode
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 13 2011, 1:40am

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You know, I bet that hairdo [In reply to] Can't Post

lasts about one day of camping before he's tying it back or asking for a little braiding assistance from his brother. Speaking as someone with long straight hair, if you're going to rough it in the wilds, braids are the way to go. Wink

Seriously though, while I'm not wildly enthusiastic, I'm still waiting to see all the dwarves together before I form a definite opinion. Context is a very important factor here, as all these characters are going to be more or less milling around in a pack everywhere they go. I'd love a formal shot of Bilbo at the end to add in to the group, too.

Silverlode

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Creative fantasy, because it is mainly trying to do something else [make something new], may open your hoard and let all the locked things fly away like cage-birds. The gems all turn into flowers or flames, and you will be warned that all you had (or knew) was dangerous and potent, not really effectively chained, free and wild; no more yours than they were you."
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Faenoriel
Tol Eressea


Jul 13 2011, 1:41am

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Good point [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks for bringing it up!

I want to have faith he looks more Dwarvish on-screen than in this promo shot.

Plus, I think we should have buried Tolkien in a larger coffin, he probably cant turn very well in his. -Rossmonster


entmaiden
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 13 2011, 1:47am

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It's a game that appears occasionally on Off Topic [In reply to] Can't Post

Someone will start with a post inviting everyone to Estrogen Island, and the post will contain a picture of a good-looking man, or a link to a picture. Others participate with other pictures. Much giggling and silliness ensues Cool.

Estrogen Island started way back in the early days of TORN when most of the members were men. They had an occasional thread called Testosterone Tower with pictures and the women reacted with Estrogen Island.

Here's a link to the TORN dictionary, which has lots of definitions of some of our obscure terminology Smile


Spencissimus
Lorien


Jul 13 2011, 1:50am

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Now that we've seen Kili... [In reply to] Can't Post

...I think that hatted dwarf peering around at Bilbo in the Empire pic is probably Jimmy Nesbitt as Bofur. While I'm at it, the bald dwarf is probably Dwalin, the chap next to him Bifur, and of course Balin with the white hair and beard! If I'm right, the only dwarf we haven't had even the slightest glimpse at is Bombur.


Altaira
Superuser


Jul 13 2011, 2:06am

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I'm not finding that description anywhere in The Hobbit [In reply to] Can't Post


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Fili and Kili are described as short and fat with yellow beards, blue hoods and silver belts.




I've scoured the text and the only description of Kili (and Fili) I can find is:

yellow beard
blue hat
silver belt
young
keen eyesight

In fact, I can't find anyplace where he describes any of the dwarves as short. Can you point to where Kili is described as short and fat?




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(This post was edited by Altaira on Jul 13 2011, 2:09am)


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 13 2011, 2:20am

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Hey, I'm watching Twilight: Eclipse at this very moment! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 13 2011, 2:22am

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Anime characters? // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


taekotemple
Grey Havens


Jul 13 2011, 2:25am

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I'm going on 2 hours in this one thread alone! [In reply to] Can't Post

Helllllppppppppp! Shocked


taekotemple
Grey Havens


Jul 13 2011, 2:31am

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Blue Steel!!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

I love it! Laugh


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 13 2011, 2:35am

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Speaking of being "stunned into silence" [In reply to] Can't Post

Miss Lily is going to work out just fine. I predict her and Kili hook up.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jul 13 2011, 2:36am

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Want to wager on that?// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 13 2011, 2:39am

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Ok a virtual rootbeer says Evangeline will work out just fine ;) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jul 13 2011, 2:45am

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Rootbeer Yes but [In reply to] Can't Post

I sense you are taking a small step back in regards to her association with Fili.

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Life is an adventure, not a contest.

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 13 2011, 2:55am

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With stakes that high, yes [In reply to] Can't Post

but let's settle this once and for all... is Aiden Turner Fili or Kili? This will be the bane of me. I need a mnemonic, stat!


taekotemple
Grey Havens


Jul 13 2011, 2:58am

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Turner is Kili [In reply to] Can't Post

For the life of me, I can't come up with a mnemonic. I could with the components of DNA because Adenine and Thymine start with my brother's initials, and Guanine and Cytosine start with my aunt's initials.


sushiking
The Shire


Jul 13 2011, 3:01am

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HAHA WOW! [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm going to say this; They will be my favorite in the bunch without a doubt now :P

I sure they will act like Merry And Pippin and be as awesome as Legolas was ;D, seeing how Kili has a cute small bow and arrow and fili has 2 awesome swords!!!!

This is awesome!


Maiarmike
Grey Havens


Jul 13 2011, 3:06am

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Yeah, I'm really digging the look of Fili. [In reply to] Can't Post

I like his dual-wielded swords, and the epic look on his face, like "I'm about to start some %*$&". It's Kili I'm unsure about at this point, but it could just be the Fabio-commercial hairdo.

"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge"
--J.R.R. Tolkien

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules."
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R11
Lorien

Jul 13 2011, 3:07am

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Of course [In reply to] Can't Post

There's nothing wrong with appreciating the good looks of actors or actresses. But my point was that it seems to fly in the face of Tolkien's vision and story to be so enthusiastic over the appearance of a character who doesn't look much like they're from the race of the character they're supposed to be Smile. I think most people agree that Liv and Miranda fit the looks of their respective roles pretty well, even though both are quite easy on the eyes. I mean, we're talking about a board here where people obsess over minute details, but somehow this rather large oddity is Hunky-Dory (no pun intended of course)? That just surprises me...

Iike I said before, I made the comment after reading a number of comments on PJ's facebook post before reading this thread as well and meant the comment in general and not specifically regarding TORn. And quite honestly I really don't see where this feeling of it's harshness comes from. I'm very surprised that so many seem to have taken it that way and think I was being judgmental to tell you the truth.

I hope I don't stumble into one of your sessions. You know I've got images in my head of sharks with blood in the water already! Shocked Cool


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SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 13 2011, 3:11am

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Aha! "Will Ki-ss Li-ly" might work... your move Kangi XD // [In reply to] Can't Post

your move Kangi LaughAngelic


Phibbus
Rohan


Jul 13 2011, 3:12am

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Well, yes... [In reply to] Can't Post


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So actually no most directors do NOT manage, imo, to differentiate between 12 disciples, most fail pretty miserably and after their initial introductions they mostly just blend into a group, aside from maybe one or two, perhaps 3 standouts.

That's pretty much the way it should be handled for effective storytelling. Anything beyond that is sidetracking for its own sake and to no dramatic purpose.


sushiking
The Shire


Jul 13 2011, 3:13am

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LOL [In reply to] Can't Post

Haha, his hair is pretty cool though, not all Dwarves have thick hair and plat there hair/bears :P


RosieLass
Valinor


Jul 13 2011, 3:23am

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*plays air guitar* // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



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Maiarmike
Grey Havens


Jul 13 2011, 3:28am

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This thread is a hefty slice of fried gold. [In reply to] Can't Post

Some of the sub-discussions and posts have verged on epic-win. I've definitely gotten my fair share of entertainment today. Laugh

Also, how much do you want to bet that the next batch of dwarves will be properly uglified and hairified? There's a formula to releasing these photos, I just know it!

"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge"
--J.R.R. Tolkien

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules."
--Walter Sobchak

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