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Faenoriel
Tol Eressea
Jul 12 2011, 10:31pm
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I'm wondering, what people were really expecting. Because the minute I saw the faces of those actors, I saw this coming. Especially after they replaced poor Rob with a very similar looking actor. The look certainly was important to them.
Plus, I think we should have buried Tolkien in a larger coffin, he probably cant turn very well in his. -Rossmonster
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Patty
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Jul 12 2011, 10:31pm
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Hah! Maybe that's why Legolas is there...
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he's handsome enough for all of them.
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weaver
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Jul 12 2011, 10:33pm
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I'm kind of putting this in the same category as casting Frodo as young, rather than middle aged...
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...well young to the eye of the average movie goer (you can always argue Frodo was old but just looked young in the films...) I was not here when the first shots of Elijah Wood came out, but I imagine when those images hit, there was similar consternation on these boards -- there are still some comments made about his age, even today, actually. Not everyone agreed with casting a "young Frodo", but the film makers had definite reasons for that choice, I think largely because visually a young Frodo could pull of the "martyr" role better than a middle aged guy. He just looks more like a lamb going to the slaughter, you know? I'm trusting there is some decent thinking behind all of their choices, including these "hot dwarves" -- for plot, practical, money or studio purposes -- whatever. They must think this look will work, so let's see how it plays out.. Don't know if this helps you Patty, but I thought I'd try! You were so disappointed in the Blu Ray, I hate to have you deal with dwarf depression on top of that!
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Maiarmike
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Jul 12 2011, 10:34pm
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They had to know this would cause a bit of controversy with fans when they finalized the look? Surely they knew Tolkien fans would be a bit taken aback by these looks? I'm just wondering what their thought process was here? Besides let's make a couple of young, good-looking dwarves that the ladies can drool over...I would think at this point, PJ would try to avoid naysayers at every point possible, but I assume he's still a renegade filmmaker, eh?
"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge" --J.R.R. Tolkien "Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules." --Walter Sobchak
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Crunchable Birdses
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Jul 12 2011, 10:35pm
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It's almost as if they're making a blockbuster movie with mass appeal or some crazy nonsense!
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Maiarmike
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Jul 12 2011, 10:39pm
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Not what I was expecting, but I feel pretty bad for PJ as well. Nothing he does will please all, and as I've said before it's a lose-lose for him, since he can't please everyone on every decision. But then again, how does that quote go, never feel sorry for a man who owns a plane?
"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge" --J.R.R. Tolkien "Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules." --Walter Sobchak
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RosieLass
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Jul 12 2011, 10:40pm
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To be honest, Legolas never did anything for me. But neither did Aragorn, for that matter. Oddly enough, nobody in the LOTR films really flipped my lid, as far as "eye candy" went.
It is always those with the fewest sensible things to say who make the loudest noise in saying them. --Precious Ramotswe (Alexander McCall Smith)
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Maiarmike
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Jul 12 2011, 10:41pm
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I was expecting more prosthesis and hair on the face...
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...but I still like them, the more I see them. I don't hate their looks, just different...
"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge" --J.R.R. Tolkien "Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules." --Walter Sobchak
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Patty
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Jul 12 2011, 10:41pm
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Actually, I'm sorry that Kili looks un-Dwarf like (although, I personally never had any issues with Elijah's age), fortunately for me, I was never as married to The Hobbit as I was to LotR, so I'm enjoying the ride with it and not too affected with changes. It is what it is, and as long as they don't make Rivendell and Hobbiton look other than a rough estimate of their already established LotR looks (only 60 years earlier) I'm kinda good. Now, if they would just offer an alternate EE blu without all that dark overlay all would be good in Middle-earth, even if the dragon looks like Kangi Ska's picture of Pete the Dragon.
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Altaira
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Jul 12 2011, 10:43pm
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These are promo shots. I guarantee they'll all be different to some degree once the movies are in the can. Remember how much Gimli's look changed over the 3 LOTR films; even in the footage that wasn't cut.
Koru: Maori symbol representing a fern frond as it opens. The koru reaches towards the light, striving for perfection, encouraging new, positive beginnings.
"Life can't be all work and no TORn" -- jflower "I take a moment to fervently hope that the camaradarie and just plain old fun I found at TORn will never end" -- LOTR_nutcase
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Flagg
Tol Eressea
Jul 12 2011, 10:43pm
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Fili is a good-looking fella too
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But he still passes for a Dwarf. Kili? Not so much. I'm comfortable with the idea of having a few reasonably attractive Dwarves in these films, as long as their attractiveness does not make them look un-Dwarvish – or in this case, Elvish. According to Tolkien, all Dwarves are born with beards, and any Dwarf whose beard was shaved off would die of shame. I'm afraid that any attempt to squeeze five-o'-clock-shadow Kili into the logical lattice of Tolkien's legendarium is a bit of a dead end...
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Richie Rich
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Jul 12 2011, 10:43pm
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Let's see...all we gotta do is stick a respectable sized nose on him, throw in some black fluff in the chinnish region, oh and of course we simply must expand that scrawny waistline of his. Now he can officially be called a dwarf! http://i52.tinypic.com/2eqcjuw.jpg P.S. Pay no attention to Starfish, he's beyond help at this point.
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RosieLass
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Jul 12 2011, 10:46pm
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Not one of us is a squealy teenaged fangirl!
It is always those with the fewest sensible things to say who make the loudest noise in saying them. --Precious Ramotswe (Alexander McCall Smith)
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Maiarmike
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Jul 12 2011, 10:48pm
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Haha, thanks for the laugh of the day...
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Frightening mental image indeed...
"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge" --J.R.R. Tolkien "Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules." --Walter Sobchak
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weaver
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Jul 12 2011, 10:53pm
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you're welcome...and you know...
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....I imagine there are some folks who will go to The Hobbit who haven't seen dwarves since Snow White...so breaking the dwarf model might not be all bad, as there are a lot of stereotypes/biases out there that could really keep some folks from getting into Tolkien's story...Kili is breaking new ground here! I hope that they reissue all the films in a the super, overextended, immortal version for you someday where you can make the color exactly what you want and adjust the "dwarviness" of the characters to your personal preference!
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rings7
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Jul 12 2011, 11:02pm
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And just to think that i thought that Bilbo was gonna be the only good looking character in that group of travelers.
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rings7
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Jul 12 2011, 11:03pm
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I don't get it. What's wrong with Ori?
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Never mind. I hadn't read the rest of your post.
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Patty
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Jul 12 2011, 11:07pm
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Patty
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Jul 12 2011, 11:09pm
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Help, I've been imprisoned by a messageboard thread!
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I've been tied to this thread for hours and can't get away! Y'all know what ? You're such interesting friends. I have discussed Kili's looks here actually for HOURS!
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Theodred
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Jul 12 2011, 11:14pm
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You might find this interview with Aidan Turner from February 20th a very interesting read,
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as you all have seen now how Kili probably will appear in the movie: You were sporting a pretty impressive beard at the Hobbit press conference. Is that for Kili? AIDAN TURNER: Yeah, it is. I’m growing out the beard. We’re giving it a chance, seeing what it looks like. Is that how Peter Jackson plans to make you less handsome and more dwarf-like? To de-handsomify me? [Laughs] No, not really. I mean, famously in the books, the dwarves have really long beards, so we’re just trying stuff out and seeing what it looks like. Are you in “hobbit boot camp” now? Yeah. Well, it’s dwarf boot camp, not really hobbit boot camp. It’s just all dwarves—training and stuff. http://dehobbithyve.hyves.nl/ http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/the-hobbit-news-widget-ronald_40
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Zizix
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Jul 12 2011, 11:22pm
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the picture shows Aidan with his own beard, they later decided that didn't work, and pasted on the biggest beard ever, that we have yet to see?
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QuackingTroll
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Jul 12 2011, 11:25pm
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My girlfriend shouted at me earlier "put the laptop down!!" she's asleep now, coz it's half twelve, so I sneakily picked it up again
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dwarf_girl
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Jul 12 2011, 11:25pm
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Kili looks like a noldor... so what! A little (hot) variety doesnt hurt. The pic with all of them together looks pretty nice. In there, you can see that the "traditional" dwarves are the ones at the middle, the oldest ones. And the youngest represent the new waves in the dwarf world.
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Faenoriel
Tol Eressea
Jul 12 2011, 11:29pm
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There was a TV program I was supposed to watch. So much for that program.
Plus, I think we should have buried Tolkien in a larger coffin, he probably cant turn very well in his. -Rossmonster
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