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Fili and Kili
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Marionette
Rohan


Jul 12 2011, 9:35pm

Post #226 of 601 (13779 views)
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I like all the dwarves so far [In reply to] Can't Post

Love this one, really couldnīt imagine Fili and Kili, but they are young dwarves so I think itīs OK.
The other dwarves look better "dwarvish" becoz they are the old ones.

Besides, they are achieving the goal of makind each dwarft DIFFERENT, and you can easily know who is who, that doesnīt happen thinking in the image we have from the book.

Well, I still find the first image (Ori, Dori and Nori ) odd, it looks like a photoshoped toys...

I am pretty sure they will all look wayyy better on film.

Hope to see the rest of dwarves this week.

"Dear friend good bye, no tears in my eyes. So sad it ends, as it began"


QuackingTroll
Valinor


Jul 12 2011, 9:37pm

Post #227 of 601 (13765 views)
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Don't speak too soon!! [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm expecting Bifur, Bofur and Bombur tomorrow! You go making statements like that, you're asking for trouble :/


SF
The Shire

Jul 12 2011, 9:38pm

Post #228 of 601 (13799 views)
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Rankin/Bass [In reply to] Can't Post

I was about to suggest the same thing.


Faenoriel
Tol Eressea


Jul 12 2011, 9:39pm

Post #229 of 601 (13849 views)
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I was waiting for your post, darling. [In reply to] Can't Post

And you didn't let me down. Wink

I'm feeling really sorry for PJ right now. 13 Dwarves without much of characteristics must be the most uncinematic thing to try to film. He was almost bound to do something wrong, and while I feel that Kili's looks are off as far as Dwarven looks are considered, I'm still not feeling any panic at all. Actually I'm pretty sure I'll learn to live with this.

And as I said before, this isn't anywhere near my worst case scenario. (Which is that the characters would be boring.)

Plus, I think we should have buried Tolkien in a larger coffin, he probably cant turn very well in his. -Rossmonster


DrDeath153
Lorien

Jul 12 2011, 9:41pm

Post #230 of 601 (13811 views)
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I was almost stunned into silence to tell the truth [In reply to] Can't Post

Nice to know you get a kick out of me having kittens thoughWink

Dr Death


adu
Bree

Jul 12 2011, 9:42pm

Post #231 of 601 (13784 views)
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Relax guys... [In reply to] Can't Post

Ok, I was kinda hesitant as well, but here are the positives for me

1) My wife has suddenly found a reason to get excited about the Hobbit (she is not into the whole Middle Earth craze like us mortals)
2) They are young, you cant make all dwarves fat and unattractive looking :)
3) I am sure in the movie, when seen amongst their peers, they will be much much more acceptable.


Altaira
Superuser / Moderator


Jul 12 2011, 9:44pm

Post #232 of 601 (13612 views)
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You are evil [In reply to] Can't Post

I like that in a person. LaughWink Very clever!


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Patty
Immortal


Jul 12 2011, 9:44pm

Post #233 of 601 (13865 views)
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Quacking Troll, don't tease! [In reply to] Can't Post

okay, I take it all back.Cool

Hey, wouldn't it be great to get their pics tomorrow? I'm thinking it will be nearer the weekend.Crazy

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droidsocket
Lorien

Jul 12 2011, 9:44pm

Post #234 of 601 (13742 views)
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lol [In reply to] Can't Post

thats funny!


DrDeath153
Lorien

Jul 12 2011, 9:44pm

Post #235 of 601 (13788 views)
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Oh come on- besides [In reply to] Can't Post

Countless directors have had to handle making twelve beardy apostles unique and recognisable, i'm sure 13 dwarves isn't that much of an issue.Laugh

Dr Death


(This post was edited by DrDeath153 on Jul 12 2011, 9:45pm)


Amigo
The Shire


Jul 12 2011, 9:44pm

Post #236 of 601 (13685 views)
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Why should all dwarves look the same? [In reply to] Can't Post

Not all people look the same. Why should it apply to dwarves? There are pretty people, ugly people, fat people, skinny people, stocky people, tall people, short people, hairy people, bald people. I personally don't want to see 13 Gimlis. Diversity is good and realistic.

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rings7
Rohan


Jul 12 2011, 9:48pm

Post #237 of 601 (13937 views)
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By looking at all of them together [In reply to] Can't Post

They're definitely going for the good, the bad and the ugly. Oh, and the HOT ones. Laugh


Estel78
Tol Eressea

Jul 12 2011, 9:49pm

Post #238 of 601 (13706 views)
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I don't want to see 13 Gimlis but i also don't want to see 11 dwarves and 2 humans... // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


sharpened_graphite
Rivendell

Jul 12 2011, 9:49pm

Post #239 of 601 (13703 views)
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Yes, but it's rather like... [In reply to] Can't Post

...having Arwen look like this: http://img2.timeinc.net/...ox/megan_fox300a.jpg for the sake of "character diversity".

First and foremost, character diversity doesn't require any of the dwarves to be good looking. So this is no excuse.

And second, even if they are so dead set on having a good looking dwarf, why make him look like a modern generic fashion model rather than an actual Tolkien character?

All I personally hope for at the moment is that the picture is photoshopped and airbrushed beyond recognition for promotion and marketing's sake, and that the actual movie Kili looks like a proper dwarf that belongs in Middle Earth and not a billboard above a highway.


little mouse
Rivendell

Jul 12 2011, 9:50pm

Post #240 of 601 (13623 views)
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hello handsome [In reply to] Can't Post

I`m quite happy with their looks, where is written that all dwarves have to be fat and bearded?


QuackingTroll
Valinor


Jul 12 2011, 9:52pm

Post #241 of 601 (13673 views)
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pretty much every chapter of The Hobbit? // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


R11
Lorien

Jul 12 2011, 9:52pm

Post #242 of 601 (13734 views)
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No generalization [In reply to] Can't Post

Simply an observation based on the explicit responses in this thread and the comments on PJ's facebook posting. My comment only applied to those expressing their delight for his hawtness anyway Angelic. There's really nothing subtle about it. It's something I would expect on a general forum like facebook, but to see it here is surprising to me because I always figured the members of TORN to be more the type to value visual authenticity over sex appeal. I mean, a dwarf that essentially has no characteristics of a dwarf and instead looks like human model? Sorry if you feel insulted by it though...

ron


RosieLass
Valinor


Jul 12 2011, 9:54pm

Post #243 of 601 (13719 views)
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Where does it say dwarf = ugly? // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



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Eledhwen
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 12 2011, 9:54pm

Post #244 of 601 (13642 views)
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They'll all be in wigs [In reply to] Can't Post

For long shoots you stick your actors in wigs - it makes for easier continuity. I believe even Liv Tyler, whose hair is naturally pretty much like Arwen's, had a wig for LOTR.

Boardwalk in mangroves


Lunamoth
Rohan


Jul 12 2011, 9:55pm

Post #245 of 601 (13736 views)
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Tolkien Ideals? [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm not sure what you are implying here, nor with the comment regarding hormones, but yanno, I'm just a femine with her knitting and such so what do I know about such things? Mad

I don't have any Tolkien ideals. He doesn't dictate my ethics or principles, thank you. He wrote some fictional books that a lot of people love, and they are good stories. And these are film adaptations. Just films. It doesn't change the content of the books. It becomes something else.


pacochoa
Bree

Jul 12 2011, 9:55pm

Post #246 of 601 (13687 views)
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Kili's bow and arrow [In reply to] Can't Post

There doesn't seem to be alot of talk about Kili's cool, black bow and arrow setup.
I think this is a pretty good sign that Kili will be doing some awesome action moves (i.e. Legolas)


Eledhwen
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 12 2011, 9:56pm

Post #247 of 601 (13647 views)
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Perspective [In reply to] Can't Post

I reckon the Dwarves will all look more Dwarvish when perspective is taken into account - when Kili's standing only chest-high to Gandalf, he'll look like a Dwarf. I actually quite like these two, and would like to thank PJ for not carrying out the crime of putting Aidan Turner in heavy prosthetics. Cool

Seriously, I think there's some interesting design decisions going on, and I can't wait to see it all realised together on screen.

Boardwalk in mangroves


Estel78
Tol Eressea

Jul 12 2011, 9:57pm

Post #248 of 601 (13724 views)
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Where does it say hunky dwarf = hunky human? Different races, different ideals of beauty... // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Maiarmike
Grey Havens


Jul 12 2011, 9:58pm

Post #249 of 601 (13692 views)
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Whoa...not what I was expecting. This is going to go well around here...// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Zizix
Rivendell


Jul 12 2011, 10:00pm

Post #250 of 601 (13646 views)
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I thought Bard the Bowman had been revealed [In reply to] Can't Post

But it turns out it's a dwarf...

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