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"The Hobbit" Filming In The UK This October?
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Jul 2 2011, 1:04am

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"The Hobbit" Filming In The UK This October? Can't Post

NYMag.com has a new interview up with Elijah Wood who'll be reprising his role as Frodo in The Hobbit, and perhaps the most interesting bit is his response to the question about when he'll be going down to New Zealand to shoot his scenes.

Here's what Elijah said:
October. I'm going to the U.K. first to do some shooting, but then I'm going down in October for the New Zealand part.

Not to jump to any conclusions, but does this potentially mean Sir Christopher Lee will be shooting his scenes in the UK this October? Discuss over at our message boards.

The entire interview can be found over at NYMag.com.


Maiarmike
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Jul 2 2011, 6:48am

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Very interesting. [In reply to] Can't Post

If they're going to do some shooting in the U.K., that almost certainly means they would film Lee's scenes while they were there. Why wouldn't they? I'm puzzled as to why Elijah would go the U.K. though...perhaps Sir Ian Holm is not in condition to fly to NZ at his age?

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JWPlatt
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Jul 2 2011, 7:12am

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Ian (Holm) and Christopher [In reply to] Can't Post

If Elijah is filming in the U.K., and he's doing scenes with Ian Holm, it's pretty safe to assume Ian is doing his filming in the U.K. That said, it makes Christopher's filming there dual purpose with Ian and that much more feasible and efficient - not to mention more humane and probably part of the terms of participation.


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Maiarmike
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Jul 2 2011, 7:15am

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I hope Sir Ian McKellen gets to act with Sir Christopher once again. [In reply to] Can't Post

It will be much more dynamic if both of them are in the same room, and Ian should be done with his theater production by then, so might still be in the U.K.
I'll be sad if Chris has to do his scene by himself. Unsure

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Kangi Ska
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Jul 2 2011, 7:22am

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I would guess that El-Wood would be going to NZ to film at [In reply to] Can't Post

Hobbiton or Rivendell or both. I would bet both.

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Kangi Ska
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Jul 2 2011, 7:23am

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I think they may not [In reply to] Can't Post

Appear together or act together.

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stormcrow20
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Jul 2 2011, 7:33am

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Indeed. [In reply to] Can't Post

Yes, I hope Lee and McKellen get to work together as well. They are all very talented actors, but I agree that it would result in a much more rewarding experience for them (and us) if they get to work together in person. And we know that Ian McKellen is already looking forward to working with Sylvester McCoy again, too!



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Bound
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Jul 2 2011, 7:55am

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Very Positive... [In reply to] Can't Post

I think we'd all agree that it's likely that this shoot in the UK is to facilitate Christopher Lee. But maybe Ian Mckellan and Sylvestor McCoy will be there too and shoot some scenes together too.

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Kangi Ska
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Jul 2 2011, 8:02am

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Why would Frodo meet up with Saruman? [In reply to] Can't Post

I think Ian Holm is not real well.

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Bound
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Jul 2 2011, 8:04am

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Ah yeah.. [In reply to] Can't Post

Sorry I meant to say that Elijah was going to shoot in the UK to shoot with Ian Holm - who you correctly say is i think not fit to travel all the way to NZ.

I wonder will Peter Fly over to shot these scenes or will they send Andy Serkis as Second Unit Director... hhmmmm

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Ruijor
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Jul 2 2011, 8:18am

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My bet is that both senior tespians will remain in the UK [In reply to] Can't Post

If Elijah is going to England then that means that the pivotal scene between him and his uncle will be made there althought Iīm curious what will Elijah be filming in NZ all by himself or does anyone else think that Sir Ian Holm will later go down under? Hmmm, donīt think so...

About Sir Christopher Lee... I do hope that they donīt simply place Saruman agaisnt a green screen; please send the needed actors to him if it is the case of having scenes together!


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Jul 2 2011, 8:24am

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Lee has said he's too old to fly to New Zealand [In reply to] Can't Post

I recall Christopher Lee saying in an interview a couple of years ago that he would love to be in "The Hobbit," but that he was too old to make the gruelling flight to New Zealand (which is about a 25-hour flight counting layovers), and said that if Jackson wanted him in it, he'd have to shoot his scenes in England. So the production doing some shooting in England makes perfect sense.


Kangi Ska
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Jul 2 2011, 8:29am

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Bilbo is Frodo's cousin. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Ruijor
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Jul 2 2011, 8:57am

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Well, technically they are cousins but he called him uncle once so... [In reply to] Can't Post

Uncle Bilbo it is! Angelic


Milknut
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Jul 2 2011, 9:54am

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Another aspect not considered [In reply to] Can't Post

what about Freeman and Cumberbatch? They're probably in the UK filming Sherlock. I wonder if they're going to slip in and do a bit of Hobbit work, too?

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Alientraveller
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Jul 2 2011, 10:07am

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Makes sense [In reply to] Can't Post

I wonder where they'll shoot these replicas of the sets. My assumption had been Lee's head will be filmed and composited onto a double, much like his brief appearance in Revenge of the Sith. The technology has much improved over the years as anyone who's seen Benjamin Button and the Captain America trailers can attest.


Pipe Dream
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Jul 2 2011, 10:07am

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They should be finished with Sherlock by October. [In reply to] Can't Post

Perhaps Andy Serkis will direct these scenes in the UK?

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FrodoEyes
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Jul 2 2011, 10:18am

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Could it also mean... [In reply to] Can't Post

That Elijah is filming something other than The Hobbit in the UK before going onto NZ for The Hobbit?

Although, considering he uses the phrase 'the New Zealand part', maybe that's not what he means...

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Jul 2 2011, 10:35am

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I wonder where they'll shoot these replicas of the sets. My assumption had been Lee's head will be filmed and composited onto a double, much like his brief appearance in Revenge of the Sith. The technology has much improved over the years as anyone who's seen Benjamin Button and the Captain America trailers can attest.


For the love of all that is Middle-earth, do not raise the spectre that are the Star Wars prequels as we head into uncharted PJ/Tolkien prequels.

That said, to paraphrase Palpatine (with respect to scenes being filmed in England):

"Everything is proceeding as we have forseen it."


Kangi Ska
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Jul 2 2011, 10:37am

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no.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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dormouse
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Jul 2 2011, 10:55am

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Why the insistence, Kangi? [In reply to] Can't Post

Technically you're right, of course. Bilbo was Frodo's second cousin once removed on his father's side and first cousin once removed on his mother's but he actually refers to 'my heir and nephew, Frodo' in the book so surely either would do? Cousin by blood, nephew by adoption, in a way, since the relationship between them is very much older to younger.


Kangi Ska
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Jul 2 2011, 11:04am

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Guess i am not English enough. [In reply to] Can't Post

The reference is confusing for some.

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Sil
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Jul 2 2011, 11:07am

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Filming of Sherlock [In reply to] Can't Post

No, principal photography of Sherlock should be finished near the end of August, actually. There are 3 episodes, and they'll be finished with the second one in 3 weeks. But Cumberbatch has a 5-part miniseries scheduled for the autumn (with him as the lead), I doubt he could 'slip in' and do some Hobbit work (even though he is a workaholic).


pulpfiction16
Rivendell

Jul 2 2011, 11:09am

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Paranoid much? [In reply to] Can't Post

The tech in Star Wars was impressive at the time, even if the movies were terrible. If using face replacement was the only way to have a Saruman that can actually physically move around in the scene, and perform minor action moments (ala Saruman vs. Gandalf fight), then I'm all for it. PJ knows to use these things in small doses.

Besides, The Hobbit has a lot more going for it than the prequels ever did, namely;

PJ didn't have a 20 year gap in his film career of only producing,
hasn't tossed away all his collaborators and writers (such as Lucas with Kasdan, and particularly Gary Kurtz, which is why even Return of the Jedi is iffy), isn't being made 20 years after the previous films, has a story already laid out from previously written material (unlike Lucas who wrote himself into corners), and not to mention a solid trilogy with how many oscars (18 or something, too lazy to look up).

So, I think it's such a ludicrous comparison to get upset at, if just because it's so ridiculous. . It's just tech! What matters is who uses it, and how they use it.


dormouse
Half-elven

Jul 2 2011, 11:14am

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Don't you use 'Uncle' as a sort of courtesy title? [In reply to] Can't Post

It happens a lot here, or it did. Not so much now, because kids tend to call adults by their Christian names, but when I was younger you didn't do that. Parents' friends would be called 'Aunt' or 'Uncle' as a matter of politeness. For Bilbo to call Frodo his nephew was a logocal extension of that, I suppose. Anyway, sorry, wasn't meaning to offend.

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