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R11
Lorien

Apr 16 2011, 6:48pm

Post #226 of 238 (766 views)
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48 fps is not supported in the Blu-ray spec either [In reply to] Can't Post

So as it sits now, Blu-ray viewers will also be watching at 24 fps just as they have been.


ron


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Apr 16 2011, 7:33pm

Post #227 of 238 (736 views)
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Ah... so maybe RedRay is on the horizon afterall. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Flagg
Tol Eressea


Apr 16 2011, 8:06pm

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More like X-ray or Gamma-ray [In reply to] Can't Post

The actual blue ray in the Blu-ray drive can transmit information faster because its wavelength is shorter; therefore you can fit more information in a ray of blue light than you can in a ray of white light (or whatever type of light DVD drives use). I think the next generation of home video (whenever it comes) will use light of an even shorter wavelength: ultraviolet at least. Red-ray would be a step in the opposite direction.


sphdle1
Gondor


Apr 16 2011, 8:48pm

Post #229 of 238 (730 views)
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proudfeet1 [In reply to] Can't Post

yeah that was the guy ... the guy standing near pj in the video looks just like him. didn't know he passed, too bad.

sphdle1

"You shall not pass!"


lyndomiel
Rivendell

Apr 16 2011, 9:39pm

Post #230 of 238 (718 views)
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Bliss indeed. [In reply to] Can't Post

and thank goodness that PJ is at the helm. All this delay has been worthwhile just to see the old gang back again. Thank you PJ for this most delectable tidbit.


R11
Lorien

Apr 16 2011, 10:18pm

Post #231 of 238 (676 views)
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You know... [In reply to] Can't Post

I may be wrong but off the top of my head I really don't think it's any limitation of the BR technology. I just think it wasn't included in the spec because nobody thought it was needed since it wasn't something that anybody used. That may be changing now and I think they could go back and revise the specs to add it. I'm not sure but it may be possible that existing players could be upgraded with a simple firmware upgrade even. But then you have the issue of compatibility with TV's which opens up a whole other can of worms...


ron


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Apr 16 2011, 10:43pm

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Jackson mentioned in this article on Red Ray [In reply to] Can't Post

"Red" for the name of the company rather than the optics. (Sorry Flagg, I should have been more specific, but I appreciated the info regardless.)

Here's a little on Red Ray players:

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Redís latest innovation is less sexy, but may have a wider impact. The company recently demonstrated its Red Ray video player, which can compress 4K video down to 10Mbps of data (in comparison, uncompressed 4K is 10GBps), which is close to the maximum throughput of an 802.11b wireless network. In other words, if Redís claims turn out to be anywhere close to true, we could move right past Blu-ray and other 1080p video and start thinking of a home theater setup built around 4K. It could be relatively painless to stream 4K video using the Red Ray codec over 802.11g/n or wired networks.

Accessed today but the article is from 2 years(!!!) ago: http://www.zdnet.com/...e-video-playback/731



Touching on R11's point the article goes onto say (now this is 2 years ago) that the 4K HDTVs that one would need to get the most out of RR are not even close to reaching market.

Also it appears that compression is going to be the name of the game for many years to come making, for now at least, 48fps superfluous. On the other hand, as technology catches up on the distribution, home viewing side, TH might be the first movie who's quality gets better over time. That is unless there is an issue on the archival side of all these advances. DVD's seem to be breaking down in under a decade.... yet another can of worms :)


(This post was edited by SirDennisC on Apr 16 2011, 10:46pm)


hutch
Rohan


Apr 16 2011, 11:36pm

Post #233 of 238 (696 views)
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word in the biz [In reply to] Can't Post

is that blu-ray is already dead. there's a new format just waitin on new tvs to catch up to the tech.

tech moves so quickly these days.


hutch
Rohan


Apr 16 2011, 11:37pm

Post #234 of 238 (677 views)
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compression is the devil [In reply to] Can't Post

Mad


sphdle1
Gondor


Apr 17 2011, 2:09pm

Post #235 of 238 (622 views)
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Redray is old technology (CDs/DVDs) [In reply to] Can't Post

though it's not in the current blu-ray specs, there may be a possibility they could upgrade new players to be 48fps capable..?

sphdle1

"You shall not pass!"


Ermanatar
The Shire


Apr 17 2011, 6:05pm

Post #236 of 238 (610 views)
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They might even.... [In reply to] Can't Post

take discs out of the equation entirely. Microsoft is convinced that the future of home entertainment is in direct downloads purchased from a completely digital source. One day, our home theater collection may be filled with hard drives instead of dvd's or blu-ray discs. I sure hope they make hard drives look more pleasing to the eye by then!

And hey fellas, take a look at the Peter Jackson video one more time and freeze frame it at about 1 minute 13 seconds in and you will see a digital Goblin-King on the screen. At least that's what I think it is. Large head? Non-human like quality? You be the judge!

Play Lord of the Rings Online!!! Find me, Ithronatar, on the Silverlode server!!!


Nazger
The Shire


Apr 18 2011, 8:17am

Post #237 of 238 (574 views)
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Surreal is the word [In reply to] Can't Post

So weird to see the old crew back together!
My thoughts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fuP3wQf8l4

(This post was edited by Nazger on Apr 18 2011, 8:17am)


And back again
Rivendell


Apr 18 2011, 11:07am

Post #238 of 238 (765 views)
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I have to admit [In reply to] Can't Post

That I held out pretty well until Richard Armitage started on his speech and then I just blubbed away.

Such a family feeling. Good-will and bonhomie abound. That's what makes it feel so grrrrrrrrrrreat.

I will go there ... and back again.

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