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"Howard had his first extensive Hobbit conference with PJ last night."
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Magpie
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Mar 27 2011, 8:39pm

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"Howard had his first extensive Hobbit conference with PJ last night." Can't Post

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Howard had his first extensive Hobbit conference with PJ last night. Incredibly exciting to see that ball beginning to roll...



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Mar 27 2011, 8:43pm

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I can't wait to hear the first notes of his score in a dark theater on opening night [In reply to] Can't Post

Just the thought of that opening music is enough to get me excited for these movies.

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Garfeimao
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Mar 27 2011, 8:50pm

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This is very exciting indeed. And so early in the process, he must be giving him the heads up on what existing themes will be present, and what new themes might be needed.

I can't wait to hear Dragon themes, holy quacamole that's an exciting thought.

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macfalk
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Mar 27 2011, 9:05pm

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It is indeed. Question for magpie: [In reply to] Can't Post

Do you know if the LOTR score was leaked in advance before the movies came out? Perhaps there is a chance that The Hobbit score will leak on the net, too.



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Gimli'sBox
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Mar 27 2011, 9:12pm

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I'm dying to know what the score [In reply to] Can't Post

Turns out like. Who knew one could be on the edge of their seat to hear a movie soundtrack?Cool

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Mar 27 2011, 9:15pm

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I'm not Magpie, but.... [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't remember hearing any of the music before the release of the film. The trailers had other music. The 20-minute promo reel that was shown a few places may have been the first place any of the music was heard.

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Jim
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Mar 27 2011, 9:20pm

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Don't forget... [In reply to] Can't Post

We got a taste of what could possibly be the main theme for The Hobbit in the Fellowship of the Ring when Bilbo is looking over his map of Northern Mirkwood and the Lonely Mountain.


macfalk
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Mar 27 2011, 9:22pm

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Lonely Mountain Map Music [In reply to] Can't Post

Yeah, I'm sure that might be used but it doesn't exactly yell "main theme!" to me. Not that LOTR had a "main theme", either, like other blockbusters.



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Estel78
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Mar 27 2011, 9:25pm

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A lot of times the soundtrack comes out before the movie, actually. [In reply to] Can't Post

Personally, i hate listening to the music beforehand, it kinda spoils the movie somewhat, so... i don't do that. Smile


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Jim
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Mar 27 2011, 9:26pm

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True... [In reply to] Can't Post

Maybe it will be the Lonely Mountain Theme Tongue


Maiarmike
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Mar 27 2011, 9:27pm

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Very exciting! [In reply to] Can't Post

Howard's genius score was what made the LotR films so special, or at least gave it that extra punch. Can't wait to hear what he's got in store for us with The Hobbit.

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Hamfast
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Mar 27 2011, 9:49pm

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I am giddy. [In reply to] Can't Post

I am aching to hear just as much see what Howard and PJ come up with for The Hobbit. Good news indeed !


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Owain
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Mar 27 2011, 10:08pm

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Very exciting news, for sure!// [In reply to] Can't Post

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Mar 27 2011, 10:37pm

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Hooray! [In reply to] Can't Post

Two new scores set in Middle-earth from Howard Shore? That's as exciting as anything we're getting from these films! Can't wait...I still remember the joy of heading into the original soundtrack and hearing "Concerning Hobbits" as if it were yesterday...

I would rather be watching Peter Jackson's "The Hobbit" and Ridley Scott's "Prometheus"...it's going to be a long few years.


FaerieHammer
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Mar 28 2011, 1:43am

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Can't wait [In reply to] Can't Post

The music was something that I especially loved about all the LOTR films, and I'm excited to hear compositions just as thrilling, moving, and deep.

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Mooseboy018
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Mar 28 2011, 4:04am

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An then there's this... [In reply to] Can't Post

I really hope this is used in the Hobbit in some way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJQmsKgqF0A


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lurtz2010
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Mar 28 2011, 4:06am

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Dol Guldur and White Council music [In reply to] Can't Post

Can't wait for that


Magpie
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Mar 28 2011, 4:07am

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It depends on what you mean by leaked [In reply to] Can't Post

If you mean an illegal, bootleg copy making it out before the movie (or any official release of music), I haven't heard of any such thing happening. I couldn't support any illicit leaking of The Hobbit score in any manner. I've been one of the voices arguing against similar situations on other forums (when early copies of Complete Recordings were being passed around illegally in open discussion) and Doug's web handlers knock any such discussion of illegal files sharing off his blog fast enough to make your head spin. I suspect similar reaction could be anticipated on these forums, as well.

If you mean was there some official outlet for hearing the music before the movies were released... then Silverlode's right. None of the trailers used Shore's score music. The only thing I could think of that might qualify would be Cannes 2001. The FOTR preview at Cannes used Shore's score so people who saw the Cannes footage would have heard the music.


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The standard, jewel-case OST was released on November 20, 2001, which is of course, about a month before the film came out. That is about standard for many soundtracks releases.


I did not buy the FOTR soundtrack till sometime in January of 2002. So all that I report happening prior to that is research done after the fact. It's possible Kristin has some info I'm not aware of.

in regards to another comment in this subthread:
I actually find I like getting the soundtrack in advance of the movie. The music, once it gets ingrained in my brain, works more effectively in supporting the movie so I respond more deeply to the movie the first time through. I don't feel it spoils anything for me. I have yet to figure out much from the music in regards to the action on screen. But maybe that's due to a lack of imagination on my part.



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peleowyn
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Mar 28 2011, 4:23am

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What wonderful news! [In reply to] Can't Post

... even after so many years the LOTR music still moves my heart on a daily basis ... it is so exciting to think that HS and PJ are preparing more treasures for us all! I will definitely look forward to hearing the music before seeing the films, and it will be fun to listen and imagine the visual images that the music is reflecting ... it seems Howard's music is able to flesh out a "world" even without any visuals!

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lurtz2010
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Mar 28 2011, 4:26am

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Wouldn't that spoil it abit? [In reply to] Can't Post

It is only music but still.. wouldn't you want to hear it first when watching the movie the first time?


Kangi Ska
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Mar 28 2011, 4:28am

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How about Glorfindel's theme?// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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lurtz2010
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Mar 28 2011, 4:32am

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I would come up with a witty response to that [In reply to] Can't Post

but no.


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Kangi Ska
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Mar 28 2011, 4:35am

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That is OK. I probably should not have brought it up. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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FaerieHammer
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Mar 28 2011, 4:47am

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It'll be the best part of the score. [In reply to] Can't Post

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Ruijor
Rohan


Mar 28 2011, 5:19am

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If I listened to the entire soundtrack prior to film... [In reply to] Can't Post

... I would clearly identify the plotline so I rather not think on that possibility. Lord Of The Rings score was truly well designed in such manner that we could easily relate the music with a specific moment or character along the story.

Eitherway great news to see Howard on board in such early stage.

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