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Gimli'sBox
Gondor
Mar 20 2011, 4:12pm
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Which came first?
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*ahem* I thought for the heck of it all I'd do this. 
So, which came first? The chicken or the egg?
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The Party Tree
Lorien
Mar 20 2011, 7:06pm
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Snarky answer: curtesy of the Harry Potter series.
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taekotemple
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Mar 20 2011, 7:14pm
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My guess is that the chicken was mutated or specifically bred to become the modern chicken we know of instead of a different bird when it was in the egg. When it comes to farm animals, humans have messed with their breeding so much that I'm sure modern chickens don't much resemble ancient chickens anymore. Makes you wonder what chickens would be like if humans hadn't messed with them.
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Gimli'sBox
Gondor
Mar 20 2011, 7:22pm
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Well, in my Not-So-Humble-Opinion I know which one came first.
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I just wanted to see what other people said.
I could do a spoiler. Or I could not. Will see....
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acheron
Gondor
Mar 20 2011, 9:19pm
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That's how they found the Second Foundation (spoilers for a 65-year old book)
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But they were wrong!
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KAOS82
Rohan
Mar 20 2011, 9:24pm
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....I can't answer, surely first come earth
btw both chicken and egg are good to eat LOL
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dernwyn
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Mar 20 2011, 11:00pm
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concept of "opposite end"!
Been ages since I last read that...
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dernwyn
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Mar 20 2011, 11:01pm
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Alcarcalime
Tol Eressea
Mar 21 2011, 9:28am
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There are still wild chickens. . .
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in S.E. Asia. They are beautifully colored, but still look like our domesticated chickens.
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Darkstone
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Mar 21 2011, 1:09pm
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It had membranous expansions, or pseudo-wings.
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Much like the Balrog.
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One Ringer
Tol Eressea
Mar 21 2011, 4:38pm
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Well, there's this guy I know, and his name is Sheldon...
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and he seems to think it was a tie.
(This post was edited by One Ringer on Mar 21 2011, 4:39pm)
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Kangi Ska
Half-elven
Mar 21 2011, 7:42pm
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the first modern chicken embryo would have come from the mating of two birds that were not quite true chickens.
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silneldor
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Mar 21 2011, 10:25pm
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I went nuts once thinking how this went
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and now you are going to drive me crazy, again
I keep thinking of the scene related to this on the movie 'Chicken Run' Ha!
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Wraith Buster
Gondor
Mar 21 2011, 10:37pm
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It has to be the chicken because
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What would keep the egg at the perfect temp while it was incubating?
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silneldor
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Mar 21 2011, 10:38pm
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had to of had the ability to lay an egg.
The answer must lie in the origins of egg laying to start with, back when life forms were really primitive and simple. It had to develop somehow with a fair transition time but i still can't get my head around it. Half an egg is not an egg, kind of thought, is what i am stuck on.
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Gimli'sBox
Gondor
Mar 22 2011, 3:03am
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I believe that everything in the bible is correct so for me it's pretty easy. God created animals and people as adults ready to live and have kiddos so, it's not very difficult. I understand to use this point I would need to prove that the bible is a credible source of information which I believe I could do in person and if I had the next three years of your life. I can't make all the points I'd want to make online. Not fast enough.
I also liked this argument:
LOGIC
First, please understand that logic has nothing to do with common sense. Logic is reducing arguments to quasi-mathematical or symbolic terms in order to test arguments. Now, the first thing we need to do in analyzing the question of whether the chicken or egg come first, is to define terms. A chicken is an edible domestic fowl. That definition will be sufficient for argument, otherwise we would have to define the chicken further in order to distinguish it from a goose or a turkey. A chicken egg is an unhatched embyo of a chicken. Now according to those definitions an egg is a potential chicken, whereas a chicken is an actual chicken. Now, which precedes the other? In any case, the actual precedes the potential. Let me explain. An actual chicken is a REAL chicken. A potential chicken is not real; it is a statistical likelihood at best, but it cannot be said to actually exist. So, again the chicken must precede the egg.
I got it from here: http://www.helium.com/items/1236601-philosophy-which-came-first-the-chicken-or-the-egg
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sador
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Mar 23 2011, 8:08am
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"Put on a few eggs, there's a good fellow!" Gandalf called after him, as the hobbit stumped off to the pantries. "And just bring out the cold chicken and pickles!"
A conscientous host like Bilbo would bring out the cold chicken within seconds, but the eggs do take some time.
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dernwyn
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Mar 23 2011, 10:26am
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Sador, that is the perfect answer. 
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Ethel Duath
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Mar 24 2011, 3:40am
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A yes, the books that used "Space"
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a some sort of swear-word. I remember enjoying all of one book and only part of another (were there 2 or three?)
Good old Asimov.
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acheron
Gondor
Mar 24 2011, 4:12am
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there were three original Foundation books
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Foundation, Foundation and Empire, and Second Foundation (the one I was referencing). Asimov added some more onto the series decades later, though I think the original trilogy is better.
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Kangi Ska
Half-elven
Mar 24 2011, 12:04pm
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The female could lay an egg but the parrents were not chickens
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only the offspring was a chicken. So Eggs came before chickens. Quite simple really.
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Ethel Duath
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Mar 24 2011, 2:35pm
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although I'd forgotten he'd added on later. I had trouble getting through them because, although I like his writing a lot in general, the Foundation series was too "political" for me. My interest in Sci-Fi is more about exploring the unknown, adventures, and creatively imagined alien cultures--so Bradbury and Clarke are more up my alley.
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