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TORN EXCLUSIVE: Cate Blanchett, Ken Stott, Sylvester McCoy, Mikael Persbrandt join cast of Peter Jackson’s ‘The Hobbit’
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carrioncrow
Fantastic Four

Dec 7 2010, 10:26pm

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i never understood [In reply to] Can't Post

seeing Persbrandt .

the man has the face of a bear.
I'm saying he has an ursine countenance
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Elentari03
Spider-person

Dec 7 2010, 10:29pm

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No Americans? [In reply to] Can't Post

Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think there has been a single American actor announced as part of the cast. That is slightly surprising, since last time they had Elijah Wood, Sean Astin, Liv Tyler, and Viggo Mortensen.


ltnjmy
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Dec 7 2010, 10:34pm

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I'm disappointed too that there is no official word on Sir Ian McKellan [In reply to] Can't Post

But I am certainly glad that Cate Blanchette will be back as Galadriel and maybe we'll see some cool White Council action - showing how they drove the Necromancer/Sauron out of Mirkwood...Sly


carrioncrow
Fantastic Four

Dec 7 2010, 10:37pm

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so... [In reply to] Can't Post

Does this mean The Old Tooks midsummers eve party might be in the mix


Oiotári
Justice League


Dec 7 2010, 10:39pm

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well there are still open roles to fill [In reply to] Can't Post

perhaps there is an american among them


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JWPlatt
X-men

Dec 7 2010, 10:40pm

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It's also curious she is the first official returning cast member to be announced. Perhaps they're saving Ian, Andy and Hugo for last?



They are arguably the biggest signers and, possibly, at least for agents and completing contracts, the biggest challenge. Certainly the biggest news. I would have included Cate Blanchett in that list, but here she is. I don't know what that says. The only actor who could trump that list is Christropher Lee if they can work that out. The casting announcement of Saruman may be last.


(This post was edited by JWPlatt on Dec 7 2010, 10:41pm)


macfalk
Wakandian


Dec 7 2010, 10:45pm

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Isn't Mortensen more Danish than American? [In reply to] Can't Post

 His name is Danish!



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Pipe Dream
Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.


Dec 7 2010, 10:48pm

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McKellen, Serkis, Weaving...and maybe Lee. [In reply to] Can't Post

What's the hold up??? I just don't understand what the problem is. Jed Brophy was a given right? Wink At the same time I'm glade about Cate and Sly. Is anyone else feeing a little more excited now? Just sign the dream team already!

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macfalk
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Dec 7 2010, 10:51pm

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Saruman [In reply to] Can't Post

My guess is as yours, they'll save him for the last, so when the fans are satisfied seeing their old heroes returning, a new Saruman will be announced til last.



The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.


RosieLass
Wakandian


Dec 7 2010, 10:51pm

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And I believe his son... [In reply to] Can't Post

...played Aragorn and Arwen's son in the Arwen's vision.

Didn't he?



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DrDeath153
Fantastic Four

Dec 7 2010, 10:55pm

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Well this is a bundle of news. Like others have said, this will take a bit of time to digest.

Starting with the most familiar then- Cate Blanchett, well this really is good news, not that i ever doubted it but nice that she's signed up now- her appearance as Galadriel was proficient enough (i do know that some purists hated it, but as far as i'm concerned it was perfectly good) and it is nice to see some confirmation in terms of casting of the Necromancer subplot.

Ken Stott- Another superb casting choice for a dwarf. While i had hoped to see Bill Bailey somewhere among them, i couldn't possibly turn down Ken Stott in his favour. It does mean i'm still hanging on a recast or a minor miracle for our Thorin, Richard Armitage to satisfy.

Sylvester McCoy- well i wasn't familiar with his Doctor but i've become familiar with him and his CV since he was rumoured, and he seems like he'll do a fine job with Radagast.

Mikael Persbrandt- Not my first choice by any stretch (hadn't even heard of him until TORN reported the rumours). Looks wise i've got my doubts- he isn't your classic hairy Mary as it were- a kind of cross between Kevin Costner and John Simm, but if he builds himself up, piles on the pounds (muscle and flab), grows a decent beard and they give him a wig, yeah, he could have it.

Nice to see Jed Brophy getting a decent 'continuing' role rather than the fits and starts as various ill-fated orcs in LotR, he's a good actor from all appearances and with him as Nori, the young skinny kid as Ori starts to make more sense.

Can't say i know either William Kircher or Ryan Gage but they both look alright for their respective parts. I think more likely than a random showing of Drogo and Primula's death, we might see them developed a bit as characters and their relation to Bilbo, foreshadowing Frodo's adoption by him. Might bring a bit of a downer to that otherwise cheerful part of the tale but we'll see how it's played.

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RosieLass
Wakandian


Dec 7 2010, 10:55pm

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Apart from Blanchett, McCoy and Brophy [In reply to] Can't Post

I've never heard of any of these new names. But I'm okay with that.

I'm not sure what to think about casting Drogo. I should think the film would not cover a long enough time period to get as far as his drowning. Maybe it's a peripheral role, sort of like Rosie Cotton or the Sackville-Bagginses were in LOTR. Familiar names for the rabid NARFs to recognize. Cool



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Elentari03
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Dec 7 2010, 10:56pm

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Well, [In reply to] Can't Post

His name is Danish, but I think he was born in the States. Perhaps this is a sign that they are confident the movies will do well without any American Hollywood name (like Tyler and Wood were) attached.


dormouse
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Dec 7 2010, 10:57pm

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Somehow every announcement .... [In reply to] Can't Post

... manages to take me by surprise!

First reaction - doesn't it feel good just having more news? Does to me, anyway. Delighted Cate Blanchett's back - am still longing for confirmation of Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis and Hugo Weaving, but at least no one else has been cast, so maybe their agents are driving a harder bargain.

I'm pleased with all the actors I've heard of who've been named so far and not dismayed that there are so many I haven't. After all, I'd never heard of Peter Jackson before Fellowship, and that turned out more than all right. I also rather like unpredictable casting, because it means that they've taken a different interpretation of the characters and that makes the films a more intriguing prospect.

I think the inclusion of Drogo must mean that there'll be a Primula too - and therefore more Hobbiton scenes than you might expect from the book.

Roll on the next announcement! Wink


Flagg
Justice League


Dec 7 2010, 11:01pm

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Don't forget the Mayor of Michel Delving [In reply to] Can't Post

His rumoured presence in the films may give us some clue as to what scenes Drogo and Primula may turn up in.


Pipe Dream
Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.


Dec 7 2010, 11:04pm

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I think it's cool that... [In reply to] Can't Post

...Beorn and Radagast are now confirmed as being in the script. Smile

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adnan
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Dec 7 2010, 11:17pm

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Agree on unpredictable casting... [In reply to] Can't Post

It definitely makes things more intriguing. It is a little concerning to hear no news of Sir Ian yet, but I'm optimistic. I guess the studios want leave some news for around Christmas time too, tis the season of giving after all Wink

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JWPlatt
X-men

Dec 7 2010, 11:33pm

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macfalk: My guess is as yours, they'll save him for the last, so when the fans are satisfied seeing their old heroes returning, a new Saruman will be announced til last.



New Saruman? Heh. If the Saruman announcement is last, it will be Chistopher Lee. The longer it takes, the more likely it is that it will be Lee. A recast Saruman would be anticlimactic - not the stuff that makes for a good cap on casting news - and more likely to be announced sooner than later. The only mitigation to that is if they use Lee's voice and a CGI'd face and acting double.


(This post was edited by JWPlatt on Dec 7 2010, 11:36pm)


acheron
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Dec 7 2010, 11:35pm

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Glad Cate is back, and glad Beorn is definitely in the script [In reply to] Can't Post

Not sure what to make of Drogo. I know we've heard the rumors before now, but now that it's official...

Well, we'll see what happens I guess. Smile

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Ataahua
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Dec 7 2010, 11:44pm

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I would say the opposite. [In reply to] Can't Post


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A recast Saruman would be anticlimatic



If Saruman is recast, my money is on the discussion boards blowing apart.

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Hengist
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Dec 7 2010, 11:44pm

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Excellent news about Cate [In reply to] Can't Post

Ken Stott is a good choice for Balin as well, although I knew the face not the name.


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Flagg
Justice League


Dec 7 2010, 11:47pm

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...but not necessarily in a good way. [In reply to] Can't Post

I think there are safer and wiser ways of completing a series of casting announcements than with explosive controversy.


gilgalad80
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Dec 7 2010, 11:49pm

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Fantastic news! [In reply to] Can't Post

Great to hear Cate Blanchett is back! Smile Also all the other actors seem to fit their parts perfectly.. Excellent cast. Persbrandt was a definite Beorn from the start for me. Now we're just waiting for Sir Ian, Andy Serkis and Hugo Weaving..


Mixel
Mutant

Dec 7 2010, 11:53pm

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Recast [In reply to] Can't Post

We should do a petition to recast Thorin.


Ruijor
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Dec 7 2010, 11:57pm

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About time! [In reply to] Can't Post

Now let´s hope that the rest of the cast can be announced until the end of the year! I´m so delighted that we will have Galadriel in the films, hope Hugo Weaving is returning also just as the Celeborn and Haldir characters. My biggest concern right now is definately the Saruman dilema...

I´m not going to even say anything about McKellen since his presence in this films is mandatory!

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