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Smaug vs The Witch King

macfalk
Valinor


Nov 23 2010, 6:18pm

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Smaug vs The Witch King Can't Post

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macfalk
Valinor


Nov 23 2010, 6:18pm

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Oh and I vote for Smaug, by the way. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Nov 23 2010, 7:56pm

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Witch King [In reply to] Can't Post

its whats for dinner!EvilEvilEvilEvil


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Airaloske
The Shire


Nov 24 2010, 1:49am

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is the Witch-King mounted? [In reply to] Can't Post

because if he's not riding one of those Fell Beasts then Smaug has an awesome advantage. Of course, Smaug could just take out the beast first and then destroy the Witch-King, but it'd be more of a fight than just the WHOMP-TOAST-NOM if Witchy wasn't mounted.


Wraith Buster
Gondor


Nov 24 2010, 2:24am

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The Witch King [In reply to] Can't Post

No one can kill him but Eówyn-(see fineprint). And Smaug had a chink in his mail right near his chest so if the Witch king got to him before Smaug blasted him with fire, then it would be over for Smaug. But a weak point for the Witch king is that he IS afraid of fire. The Witch king would have the upper "hand" though if Smaug was sleeping.
That is a good one, macfalk! I vote for the Witch king.

I do believe if our honorable friend continues to scrape the bottom of the barrel for objections he is in danger of getting splinters under his fingernails.



Ataahua
Superuser / Moderator


Nov 24 2010, 3:03am

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Actually, [In reply to] Can't Post

no *man* can kill him - and as Smaug isn't a man, I'll lay odds on the dragon with the firey breath.

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Airaloske
The Shire


Nov 25 2010, 10:51am

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Smaug usually sleeps on his belly [In reply to] Can't Post

So even if the Witch-King could sneak up on him while he's sleeping he'd have a heck of a time getting to the teeny little chink in his armor. He'd step on some treasure, make noise, and end up a crispy critter.


macfalk
Valinor


Nov 25 2010, 5:59pm

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Aye. Smaug is a very powerful creature. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



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Flagg
Tol Eressea


Nov 25 2010, 6:35pm

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Are dragons susceptible to Morgul-blades? [In reply to] Can't Post

A Wraith-Smaug would be interesting.


macfalk
Valinor


Nov 25 2010, 8:03pm

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Indeed. To those who may know: [In reply to] Can't Post

Was there any more powerful dragon than Smaug in the history of Middle-earth?



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Gimli'sBox
Gondor


Nov 25 2010, 8:16pm

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Yes. Ancalagon the Black... The greatest of all dragons of ME. See the Sil.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

It's Latin. Loosely translated, it means... we cheat.

"Strange treasures in this fair world appear, strange all, and new to me." That is a poem by Thomas Traherne and I have absolutely no idea what it's about. But, when I was small I was made to learn it by heart so I don't see why you shouldn't suffer too.


macfalk
Valinor


Nov 25 2010, 8:18pm

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Is it set in stone? // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



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Gimli'sBox
Gondor


Nov 25 2010, 8:23pm

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Well, nothing is set in stone. Like some other people are talking about [In reply to] Can't Post

On another thread Tolkien changed stuff sometimes but, that is what it says in the Sil soooo,

It's Latin. Loosely translated, it means... we cheat.

"Strange treasures in this fair world appear, strange all, and new to me." That is a poem by Thomas Traherne and I have absolutely no idea what it's about. But, when I was small I was made to learn it by heart so I don't see why you shouldn't suffer too.


TheNazgul
Rivendell


Nov 28 2010, 2:18am

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Another thing. [In reply to] Can't Post

witch King wasnt exactly killed just lost most of his power and never bothered anybody again.
I vote for Witch King (who else?!!)

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Mablung
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Dec 1 2010, 5:07pm

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glarung was better [In reply to] Can't Post

Glarung was the best dragon in middle earth. He was awsome!!!


Airaloske
The Shire


Dec 1 2010, 10:16pm

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toast [In reply to] Can't Post

he couldn't even fly. get Smaug or Ancalagon in the air and Glaurung is bantha poodoo.



Mablung
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Dec 1 2010, 11:19pm

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glarung was better [In reply to] Can't Post

glarung lead the sack of nargothrond. all ancalagon did was get beat by earendil. Galrung controls people with his stare. he is so much better.


Airaloske
The Shire


Dec 2 2010, 1:34am

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It isn't a question of who is a cooler dragon, or which dragon did what, it is a question of who, in a fight between the two dragons, would win. Glaurung can't fly so Smaug and Ancalagon both have that advantage over him. Unless Glaurung can even the playing field by ripping off Ancalagon's or Smaug's wings I'd say that the two winged dragons would take it any day of the week. You just can't pit a tank against a fighter jet and expect the tank to come out better.



Mablung
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Dec 2 2010, 2:14am

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Ancalagon vrs Glarung [In reply to] Can't Post

Ancalagon would have that advanage in a fight. But Glarungs only weak spot is his belly and it would be rather diffacult to get at in a fight. So I think I would be more of a stalemate. Unless Ancalagon somehow flipped Glarung on his backor or Glarung ripped off Ancalagons wings it would be a tie.


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Darkstone
Immortal


Dec 6 2010, 4:03pm

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"No man can kill me", and Smaug is definitely no man.

When you think about it, WiKi is pretty vulnerable. He can be killed by just about anything: aardvarks, platypuses, peanuts, low hanging tree limbs, paper cuts. Kinda sad, actually.

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Airaloske
The Shire


Dec 8 2010, 3:38am

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wow [In reply to] Can't Post

now I'm imagining the Witch King, in all of his shredded-black-robe glory, choking on a peanut while being viciously mauled by a platypus.



Donry
Tol Eressea


Dec 11 2010, 3:39am

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I'm taking Smaug [In reply to] Can't Post

in this one.....he's a dragon....I just have a hard time seeing one man or one wraith taking out a dragon.....I know Bard did it with an arrow, but it wasn't one-on-one....If Smaug is concentrating his attacks on just one being...it's over.....imho...

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macfalk
Valinor


Dec 12 2010, 9:35am

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Aardvarks! [In reply to] Can't Post

Haha, great Laugh



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Tolkien Forever
Gondor

Feb 25 2011, 8:50pm

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Smaug is MALE [In reply to] Can't Post

Does Smaug qualify as a 'man' because he is 'male'?

Remember, Gandalf really isn't a man, but is 'male', being 'in the form of a man' but still qualifies under Glorfindel's prophecy...

That's the trouble with prophecy, it's so, uh, prophetic and locked in to fact.

Like Christ in psalm 22.... 'none of my bones are broken' ~ so He up & gives up His Spirit on the cross before they can smash His legs with a hammer.

So, the prophecy with Glorfidel & Witchy-poo can definitely be interpreted to be 'male' versus 'man'......

Therefore, disqualifying Smaug.

For the record, I think Smaug would've fried Wichie-poo.

Perhaps they would've met at the River Running, & the Witch-poo would've had a double wammy: The fright of running water AND fire.

He probably would've pooped his hauberk if wraiths still poop.

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Witchy King
Bree


Mar 9 2011, 5:04pm

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Witch King Forever [In reply to] Can't Post

NYAH.

But seriously, I think Smaug got so old and lazy near the end (Hobbit era) that it would have been a piece of cake for dear old Witchy. Wink

"He is a moss-gatherer, and I have been a stone doomed to rolling."

 
 

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