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Does anyone think David Bowie would be good as the Elven King?
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Poppytook
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Nov 10 2010, 4:13pm

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Does anyone think David Bowie would be good as the Elven King? Can't Post

 


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Eruonen
Tol Eressea


Nov 10 2010, 4:32pm

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Maybe 10-20 years ago...yes, he has the look. [In reply to] Can't Post

 


acheron
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Nov 10 2010, 4:42pm

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King Isildur of Gondor
The Shire


Nov 10 2010, 4:49pm

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that idea... [In reply to] Can't Post

has come to my mind sometimes, but I think now he's too old for it.

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Elizabeth
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Nov 10 2010, 5:22pm

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I and others have advocated Bowie [In reply to] Can't Post

... as the Elven King for some time. I do not think his age is a problem, and his "other-worldly" look is ideal.






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Flagg
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Nov 10 2010, 5:32pm

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He would make a good Thranduil. [In reply to] Can't Post

Age isn't a concern; what else is make-up for? I think the potential 'baggage' that someone as well-known as Bowie would bring to the role is a far more important issue.


King Isildur of Gondor
The Shire


Nov 10 2010, 5:32pm

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Elizabeth [In reply to] Can't Post

I have to agree with you, Bowie certainly has that other worldly look.

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Hellmistress
Lorien


Nov 10 2010, 6:03pm

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Old. Too old. [In reply to] Can't Post

'Way back in the day, maybe. But not now, and his acting talents haven't ever amounted to much. Makeup is very expensive and time-consuming, and to be honest it would be easier and more practical to cast an actor better fitted to the role.

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Empedocles
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Nov 10 2010, 6:23pm

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Way too old [In reply to] Can't Post

And there's also the fact that a lot of people would be "Hey, that's David Bowie!", which totally takes you away from the movie.

It happened to me during "The Prestige" and it happens with every single movie in which a rock star shows up.

I'll dare anyone to watch David Lynch's "Dune" and not say, "Hey, that's Sting" or POTC and not say "Hey, Keith Richards!"

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LordMaximus
Rivendell

Nov 10 2010, 6:26pm

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Why do you think they rejected him the first time around for Elrond? [In reply to] Can't Post



Nimloth
Lorien


Nov 10 2010, 7:22pm

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I'm with the 'too old' camp [In reply to] Can't Post

20 years ago he would have been perfect but not now.


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Nov 10 2010, 7:26pm

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Well, yes. [In reply to] Can't Post

This is the baggage that worries me. Nothing they could do with costume or makeup would prevent this from coming to mind and ruining those scenes for me. I already had Matrix flashbacks in LOTR with Hugo Weaving. ("Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson!") I would much, much rather they cast someone else - and I think they will.

If you want to see even more bad casting suggestions, check out this post from that thread. ShockedLaugh

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Goldberry of the river
Lorien


Nov 10 2010, 7:50pm

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Nope, too old // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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sphdle1
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Nov 10 2010, 7:59pm

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I never liked him as a singer ... but he seems to be a decent actor [In reply to] Can't Post

He would likely make a great Elven King...I think they may be foolish to overlook him for that.

Coincidentally he was in the movie 'The Prestige' with Andy Serkis, and they seemed to work well together.


Flagg
Tol Eressea


Nov 10 2010, 8:00pm

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For the 'too old' camp: [In reply to] Can't Post

What about his son, Duncan Jones? He's a film director and probably the closest thing there is to a 'young David Bowie'. Here's a picture of the two of them together:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/...premiere_of_Moon.jpg

With a shave and some make-up I think he could be a pretty good stand-in for his father.


Flagg
Tol Eressea


Nov 10 2010, 8:14pm

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Now that you mention it, [In reply to] Can't Post

wasn't Gollum captured and imprisoned by the Wood-elves at one point? I wonder if those scenes will be incorporated in some way. It would be interesting to see him interacting with Thranduil and Legolas (whom he never met in LotR).


Elizabeth
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Nov 10 2010, 9:29pm

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It was a mistake, IMO. [In reply to] Can't Post

He would have been much better than Hugo Weaving.






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Tim
Tol Eressea


Nov 10 2010, 9:35pm

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No, no thanks to David Bowie [In reply to] Can't Post

I say yes to a more obscure but talented actor, at least I won't be singing "ground control to Major Tom" in my head every time I see him.

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AinurOlorin
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Nov 10 2010, 9:39pm

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Absolutely, though you will doubtless hear from many here who will nay say. [In reply to] Can't Post

I agree with you, have said it many times. It is said that Bowie wanted to play Elrond all those years back. . . and there are moments when Weavin'g Elrond is very Bowiesque actually. He'd be great, but I doubt it will happen. Currently I am too engaged in the campaign to see Glorfindel get his moment, and in calling for Gandalf's fire enchantments to be properly displayed, so that no neophyte will ever again disparage him as a great Wizard ( which happened in regards to Fellowship Mad), to launch a likely vain battle for inclusion of David Bowie, as well suited as I think he would be.

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Flagg
Tol Eressea


Nov 10 2010, 9:41pm

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I like Hugo Weaving. [In reply to] Can't Post

He may not look very otherworldly, but then again, he is only Elrond Halfelven. But I sort of agree, he wasn't really outstanding in the role the way he was as Agent Smith in the Matrix trilogy. I could definitely imagine other Elronds, but I could not imagine anyone else as Smith.


RosieLass
Valinor


Nov 10 2010, 10:03pm

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I don't want to see him as the Elvenking, no. [In reply to] Can't Post

I mean, he'd probably be fine in the role. But for the same reason people objected to, say, Sean Connery as Gandalf, he's too recognizable. I'd be thinking, "Hey, that's Ziggy Stardust!" and it would take me completely out of the moment.



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Samuel Walters
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Nov 10 2010, 10:26pm

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I'm afraid of the Dwarven Kings [In reply to] Can't Post

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Eruonen
Tol Eressea


Nov 10 2010, 10:36pm

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I will revise my too old comment if that photo is recent.... [In reply to] Can't Post

He has the looks....but the distraction factor might be too much to overcome.

Mick Jagger starting to look like Gollum....
Keith Richards....Wormtongue
Clay Aiken...kind of elvish....

I got it, Lindsay Lohan as Itaril!

Ha Ha


Eruonen
Tol Eressea


Nov 10 2010, 10:41pm

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Great cover photo....David Bowie Esquire Russia April 2010 - MagXone [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.magxone.com/esquire/david-bowie-esquire-russia-april-2010/

He definitely could pull off the look...and I thought of him in 1999 as well....


Snaga
Lorien


Nov 10 2010, 11:01pm

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This role calls for someone with a different look [In reply to] Can't Post

Someone who looks majestic, healthy and in the prime of life. Bowie just looks and sounds like a tired old rocker in my opinion.

I'd rather they find some talented, unknown, forty something actor who has been putting in solid years of theatre work in London, New York etc... Give some fellow a break-out role in film.

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