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Owain
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Oct 21 2010, 6:41am
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It is absolutely ridiculous how she is behaving...
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... her whole job is to defend NZ jobs.
Insanity is the right word.
"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."
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macfalk
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Oct 21 2010, 6:42am
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The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.
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Ataahua
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Oct 21 2010, 6:43am
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With Thandi Write (sp?) and Robyn Malcolm of NZ Actors Equity
* John Campbell: "Can you assure Warners that there will be no industrial action?" Robyn: "Absolutely. We can categorically confirm and assure there will be no industrial action by New Zealand actors on The Hobbit in New Zealand. We made that assurance at the end of last week and reported it in the weekend."
* Thandi said the actors were a little baffled by Warners coming to New Zealand next week. "Clearly it's about a lot more than what a bunch of New Zealand actors want."
* Robyn believes the threat to move overseas isn't as dire as is being reported. "We're hearing tickets are being bought for international actors to come here. We know the sets are being built here. The last thing we want to see happen is for The Hobbit to leave these shores. One of the reasons we lifted this non-work advice is we were very aware of the fact the production wasn't going to shift its position and we wanted to move forward."
* Thandi: "We feel sick about this and that a whole lot of technicians and their families have been put in this position."
* Robyn said it is a basic right for workers to ask to meet employers. "It was not an ambush in any way, shape or form. It was a respectful, polite letter requesting to negotiate. The rest of it is horrific to us. These people are our mates, the technicians. These are people we have worked with. It's awful that it's come to this and it could have been solved by a meeting."
Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
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Frodosfriend
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Oct 21 2010, 6:43am
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I really got the sense that he will fight for it the best he can when they 'sit around the round table with WB next week'
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Ruijor
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Oct 21 2010, 6:45am
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Yeah, Peter looks unhealthy...
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... way distant from a decade ago, I hope it is just tireness of all this mess but the fact is we need him in good shape to shoot this epic... 
On the other hand loved to get a look at the Bag End sets, pretty sweet stuff... 
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Starling
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Oct 21 2010, 6:45am
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looked exhausted. I am not given to being a drama queen, but I honestly thought they both looked and sounded terribly distressed.
This whole thing is just heartbreaking. 
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macfalk
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Oct 21 2010, 6:46am
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"We know the sets are being built here. The last thing we want to see happen is for The Hobbit to leave these shores. One of the reasons we lifted this non-work advice is we were very aware of the fact the production wasn't going to shift its position and we wanted to move forward."
Oh, so now they have inside intellegence that even PJ and the others don't have? I don't think this person is very up to date.
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Owain
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Oct 21 2010, 6:47am
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Agreed. Poor people. Makes me feel sick.//
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"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."
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macfalk
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Oct 21 2010, 6:48am
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PJ looked like he had been fighting a Balrog for the last 4 weeks
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Oct 21 2010, 6:53am
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I feel so sorry for Peter that he has to deal with all that nonsense on top of everything he had already to go through to get the Hobbit made.
And I believe he's right - these few actors and their union don't really know what they do - and what the repercussions are.
I do not suffer from LotR obsession - I enjoy every minute of it.
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kat99
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Oct 21 2010, 6:53am
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just watched the close up tv program and PJ does look really tired and angry. I don't blame him with all the problems he has come up against trying to make The Hobbit! It sounds like he is really going to fight when WB comes on Monday to get the film here in NZ. I really feel bad for his crew and all the people who were counting on a job in this production Hoping it works out and it stays in NZ
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RobNZ
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Oct 21 2010, 7:06am
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I do feel sorry for PJ and PB. As artists, these politics and must be so stifling and upsetting to them.
I know that Warner Brothers will definitely be keeping an eye on developments from afar. There is no doubt they would see those interviews.
If WB just want a stable environment in NZ, then they have now been assured that by the Unions.
I hope things havent gone too far to be turned around in NZ's favour.
Chin up, were behind you PJ and PB.
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Oct 21 2010, 7:07am
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here.
King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder?
Tim: There are some who call me... Tim?
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Owain
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Oct 21 2010, 7:08am
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Thanks again Tim... watching now.//
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Ataahua
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Oct 21 2010, 7:17am
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* PJ said Warners and SAG had been talking since the boycott was announced four weeks ago. There were many times when agreements were made, statements prepared, and things went pear-shaped. (He mentioned this to put into perspective the CTU's comments about an agreement being reached in the weekend but not announced by Warners.) "It's a question of industrial relations, and damage was done within a week of the (boycott) action being brought. If they (the unions) have done that once, what happens in a year's time when warner Brothers have spent $200m through the film and the actors decide to have some fun again? They (Warners) have no confidence."
* Mark Sainsbury: "Are you anti-union?" Philippa: "Absolutely not. I was the Executive Director of the New Zealand Writers Guild." PJ: "And I'm in four unions."
* Mark Sainsbury: "Are you anti-actors?" PJ: "Absolutely not. This is the action of a few actors and they don't actually understand the real repercussions and the situation."
* PJ says it's rubbish to say that Warners has wanted to take The Hobbit overseas. "There are sets behind us being made to shoot on. This is Gollum's cave for goodness' sake. It (the allegation) is absolute junk. One month ago, no one in a million years thought this movie was going to leave the country. At that point (four weeks ago) the confidence in our country as a stable base to make movies was eroded. Is the movie going to come or go? We don't know. Unfortunately, lifting the blacklist doesn't have anyting to do with it: The damage will be done. Warners are coming here next Monday and we've got to fight like hell."
* PJ in response to Helen Kelly calling him a spoilt brat: "I'm trying to save my movie. She's behaving like somebody who thinks she knows about filmmaking. She hasn't got a god-damn clue."
* PJ on the technicians' march in Wellington: "I was watching the march on TV. I was saddened by these people having to fight for their jobs but I thought at least this is showing Warner Brothers that this country has a passion, that there are so many of our film workers who want to make this film, and this is a fantastic image."
* Mark Sainsbury: "What should (Government Minister) Gerry Brownlee and Helen Kelly do now to save the film?" PJ: "I don't think Helen Kelly has a clue and she should probably just go home, it would be probably the most useful thing she could do. Gerry, it would definitely be helpful if he agreed to meet with Warners next week and talk to them. They just want some assurance. They don't want extra subsidies or a tax incentives increase."
* Philippa: "It's gob-smacking because the terms and conditions for actors on The Hobbit were really good and there's not one single New Zealand actor who wasn't going to be treated fairly." PJ: "For the first time New Zealand actors were going to get some residuals from the films."
* Mark Sainsbury: "Right here, Thursday night, what is the status of The Hobbit?" Philippa: "Probably going out the door." PJ: "Yeah. The studio are coming through on Monday and I'm wracking my brains to find out what they need to get the confidence that they need."
Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
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Oct 21 2010, 7:25am
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Naive indeed. Sounds to me like they've been used
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and haven't figured it out even now.
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Oct 21 2010, 7:27am
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It's really great how everyone on this board is working to keep everyone else updated, particularly at times like this. To have the original quotes is always the best!
I do not suffer from LotR obsession - I enjoy every minute of it.
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Oct 21 2010, 7:30am
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are very aware of the fact. Really, I'm beginning to wonder why they are in their positions when they even *now* don't get it. I can understand that they fell into the trap initially, but after all that happened, they should get a clue.
I do not suffer from LotR obsession - I enjoy every minute of it.
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SirDennisC
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Oct 21 2010, 7:58am
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"The damage is already done," rinse, repeat.
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Better tidy up because M and P are coming for a visit.
One question: since when does a "spontaneous action" require the services of an organizer?
I must apologize for my behaviour around the boards today. The whole mess is hard to watch from the sidelines...
Perhaps now that labour stability -- something that already exists, as we learned today, in Ireland and elsewhere for some reason -- has been assured, everyone can put their high horses out to pasture and get back to making what is sure to be a lovely film.
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Ruijor
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Oct 21 2010, 8:08am
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Despite it was nice to be inside Bag End once again it really is heartbreaking to see Peter´s worned like that, it´s too much for one man to handle, he should be focused only on the artistic aspects of the film by now, not having to waging war to these greedy people who seems to lack global perspective. Those two ladies representing Equitty seemed naive at best and to me have failed in making a sustainable argument about their interests in all of this.
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Oct 21 2010, 8:08am
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Video of the intereviews : http://tvnz.co.nz/close-up/sir-peter-jackson-speaks-3848324/video
Peter looks very tired and emotional, looks like he is on the verge on tears for much of the interview. The interview was conducted in the under construction set for Gollum's Cave.
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Oct 21 2010, 8:28am
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The "Close Up" coverage is far superior!
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Pity Mods deleted this valuable thread! 
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Altaira
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Oct 21 2010, 8:37am
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It's already being discussed in this thread. No need for two threads on all the interviews going on. The poster was invited to repost in this thread. It's his choice whether he wants to or not.
Pity you're not more observant.
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