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CTU spokesperson Helen Kelly: "Peter Jackson is a spoilt brat."
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Ataahua
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Oct 20 2010, 6:29pm

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CTU spokesperson Helen Kelly: "Peter Jackson is a spoilt brat." Can't Post

Helen Kelly has just been interviewed on Newstalk ZB. Highlights:


The move offshore is financially-driven, not actor-driven

"The issue is that countries are offering double the tax breaks (of New Zealand). Warners are in the process of doing as much damage as they can (to the NZ film industry) to get what they want.

"New Zealand can compete on films if the tax system is right. We have to have the right financial conditions to compete." She said New Zealand competes on talent and skills and we shouldn't have to accept lower overseas conditions to be competitive.


A resolution was close

"We're working with SPADA. Warners is fully aware that we're within an inch of resolving this but they're deciding to go this way.

"The union is the way to unionise the film industry, and what is the problem with this? We have manufacturing and call centres going offshore, and are you suggesting that our actors shouldn't be unionised?"


PJ's role in the dispute

"Peter Jackson is a spoilt brat, and saying that in this country I know is sacriligious. He organised a meeting last night through Weta Workshop and wound those technicians up with false information. The were played like a fiddle and took the bait. He shared information that we're forbidden from sharing (and said) it's the performers' request to meet that has hurt The Hobbit. It is the fault of Three Foot Seven to move the movie to film The Hobbit."

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(This post was edited by Ataahua on Oct 20 2010, 6:31pm)


Flagg
Tol Eressea


Oct 20 2010, 6:34pm

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This woman's comments about Peter Jackson are making me angry in a way that no previous developments have.

I have never been more amenable to the production relocating than I am right now, to put it politely.

This post may seem calm, but believe me when I say that I am anything but.


Crunchable Birdses
Rohan


Oct 20 2010, 6:34pm

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off with her head! [In reply to] Can't Post

I see it's getting nasty now.

* crunch *


Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 20 2010, 6:35pm

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And the mud slinging continues. [In reply to] Can't Post

It is interesting that Helen Kelly has come to the forefront. She has absolutely no film background but seems to have a lot of political interest.

Pretty offensive and vitriolic words.Unimpressed

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


Tim
Tol Eressea


Oct 20 2010, 6:36pm

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Wow - no wonder the negotiations have taken so long [In reply to] Can't Post

This woman obviously doesn't know how to negotiate.

PJ a spoiled brat? Doesn't that imply he doesn't deserve the success that he has earned? I wonder what huge projects Helen Kelly has brought to New Zealand. Anyways, Helen, PJ just may be trying to save jobs in New Zealand, so please do keep that in mind when you start spouting fighting words.

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Oct 20 2010, 6:37pm

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Popcorn anyone? // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



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Oct 20 2010, 6:38pm

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With that [In reply to] Can't Post

she has in my eyes disqualified herself as someone to take even remotely seriously. She's acting like a spoilt brat herself who isn't getting what she wanted and now is blaming everyone else for it.

Really, I don't know any more if to cry or rather bang my head into the wall about so much stupidity!



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Lorien


Oct 20 2010, 6:40pm

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I'll have some of that [In reply to] Can't Post

munch munch



Tim
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Oct 20 2010, 6:40pm

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Yes do hand over the popcorn [In reply to] Can't Post

it's a lighter object to throw at her head (Helen Kelly) than what I'm currently holding in my hand. Wink

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Oct 20 2010, 6:42pm

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Yes please! [In reply to] Can't Post

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acheron
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Oct 20 2010, 6:43pm

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*sets up lawn chair* // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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dormouse
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Oct 20 2010, 6:45pm

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*Shakes head in disbelief* [In reply to] Can't Post

... no wonder things have gone this far. Unsure


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Flagg
Tol Eressea


Oct 20 2010, 6:48pm

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I hope Peter responds to her with a highly offensive and cruelly accurate comeback [In reply to] Can't Post

I would love him even more.


Estel78
Tol Eressea

Oct 20 2010, 6:48pm

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What does she mean...? [In reply to] Can't Post


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"He shared information that we're forbidden from sharing (and said) it's the performers' request to meet that has hurt The Hobbit. It is the fault of Three Foot Seven to move the movie to film The Hobbit."


Especially the last sentence: it's their fault to move the movie to film The Hobbit. I don't get it.


Flagg
Tol Eressea


Oct 20 2010, 6:50pm

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She's talking through her... [In reply to] Can't Post

...hat. It's a load of made-up nonsense, in other words. At least, I think so, judging by the veracity of the rest of her interview.


Doriath
Rivendell


Oct 20 2010, 6:50pm

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move the politicians offshore [In reply to] Can't Post

so the good honest working folk can get on with some good honest work

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Arbutus
The Shire


Oct 20 2010, 6:51pm

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WHAT THE...? [In reply to] Can't Post

It is unbelievable that one woman can spew such garbage and act as a representative for anyone! I also find it extremely doubtful that Richard Taylor would let PJ organize anything at WETA! He is not a figurehead in any way. Except as a positive example.


Empedocles
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Oct 20 2010, 6:51pm

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"He shared information that we're forbidden to share" [In reply to] Can't Post

That means that Peter probably told Richard and all the technical staff the truth.

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Tim
Tol Eressea


Oct 20 2010, 6:53pm

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She means [In reply to] Can't Post

they can hold up the production as long as they want with boycott's or threatened boycott's and expect no repercussions at all. The sun and stars and earth revolve around her head.

I think PJ did the only thing he could do in the situation and I would do the same - take whatever steps he could to show Warner's that MEAA is a gnat and it won't effect the production if it goes on in New Zealand because the majority of film makers there don't support them.

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Valinor


Oct 20 2010, 6:53pm

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Maybe he told them [In reply to] Can't Post

that it *is* a boycott, and we all know that this Union denies it is one Evil



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the_argonath
Lorien


Oct 20 2010, 6:54pm

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Pass the popcorn! [In reply to] Can't Post

This woman is obviously just trying to put in her two cents worth and knows nothing about, well, nothing...
I say she can have her two cents back.....

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xirtic88
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Oct 20 2010, 6:54pm

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Helen Kelly's contact info [In reply to] Can't Post

Send her an email or give her a call and let her know how you feel.

helenk@nzctu.org.nz

Phone 04 802 3812
Cell 021 776 741


Anteor
Bree

Oct 20 2010, 6:54pm

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well well well [In reply to] Can't Post

I haven't been on here for ages and then I come back and find that all this is kicking off. First off, no matter what is going on I woulod have thought that woman (translation: inesrt none family friendly curse word here) would maintain SOME form of professionalism and not resort to childish counter productive name calling. Second, I knew it was too good to be true when I heard there was a greenlight I said to myself "what's gonna blow up now". Third what is the actually time frame for this, as in when can we expect a resolution to this one way or another?

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Nerwen
Bree


Oct 20 2010, 6:55pm

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What's popcorn preciousss eh? [In reply to] Can't Post



Although I have to say I'm feeling a bit more like this atm:



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and horror in the halls of stone
look at last on meadows green
and trees and hills they long have known
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Valinor


Oct 20 2010, 6:55pm

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Now that's an idea! [In reply to] Can't Post

Like that much better than moving the Hobbit production. And who needs these idiots?



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