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Kangi Ska
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Oct 16 2010, 12:07pm
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So you are the one behind it.//
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Kangi Ska
The Hobbit is almost here.
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Oct 16 2010, 12:09pm
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Tim
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Oct 16 2010, 12:47pm
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Well you're putting it up there for discussion
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so it's fair game.
I'm not sure why you're stressing. You're never, ever going to know if most of these things that you worry about are true or not. It almost begs the question if you find so much behind-the-scenes drama in everything that happens why do you even involve yourself? Why can't this just be a good thing? Does everything have to be so Machiavellian? I mean you go on and on about this and that being done to PJ or GDT - look both of these guys are both happy and rich. Neither one is really a victim worth getting worked up about. You seem like a really nice intelligent person but yes you DO stand out as the resident skeptic. This announcement comes out and everyone is hooray except you. So count me in as the resident stress therapy guy. I mean seriously no snark my suggestion is just enjoy the moment of something going right. I just don't like to see you stress out.
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Tim: There are some who call me... Tim.
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Estel78
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Oct 16 2010, 12:49pm
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It's simple. Things finally worked out. PJ decided to direct, GDT decided he couldn't wait around. No big deal. It's just life. If they end up filming in NZ great. If not it will still be a great movie. Everybody relax and try to look at some good news and just enjoy it.
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Kangi Ska
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Oct 16 2010, 1:34pm
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But-but I want to be the resident skeptic.
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Or perhaps "Skeptic In Residence".
Kangi Ska
The Hobbit is almost here.
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Growlithe the Grey
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Oct 16 2010, 1:46pm
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And so you get the feeling now that maybe just as they wanted the "blockbuster franchise guy" for the job, (as opposed to the other Oscar-winner director) adn were willing to (perhaps) manipulate the chips--and oh so patiently, for years--tighening the thumbscrews on Del Toro, perhaps, to pressure him into quitting---even willing to go to the lengths of pulling him off a *Stepehn Spielberg collaberation*--they knew full well the possibilty of a schedule conflict? I have to tell you, that sounds like one heck of a troll-sized gamble. Secondly, if they were so desperate to have PJ and only PJ direct, I'm sure that would have been part of the terms to begin with, rather than letting PJ and the rest of the studio come to an agreement with GDT. Ultimately the studio has say as to who the major players are in the film, and rather than try and sabotage the production, risking complete obliteration of the project, they could have just flat out said "this is how we want it done, and if it can't be done like that now, we'll just wait until it can."
I'm just not buying the big conspiracy theory that the financial troubles they were going through were the perfect "excuse" for them to pressure GDT out.
Am I sad for what GDT has gone through? You bet. I was excited for the guy, and excited to see his vision for the Hobbit. But I don't think there was any plotting against him in all this. He simply became frustrated with the wrangling that had to be done to get this thing to happen, and decided not to put up with the frustrations and scheduling problems.
The movie business is full of ups and downs. Let's not try and paint GDT as an "unlucky" guy in the movie business - at least not more so than anyone else. He's done very well for himself, and I see a very bright future yet to come for him. He may be suffering through a couple of unfortunate circumstances right now, but I doubt highly that it has anything to do with him personally or professionally. Sometimes it's just the way the ball bounces.
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Tim
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Oct 16 2010, 1:55pm
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Well you seem to have some serious competition for that title lol. //
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Kangi Ska
Gondolin
Oct 16 2010, 2:06pm
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Maybe I should be the "Resident Cynic" then.
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Of course they are going to make them in 3-D. Was there really ever any doubt that the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ would win out!
How is that for a start? And about that Elf-wench...
Kangi Ska
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Tim
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Oct 16 2010, 2:08pm
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I guess it really is true about the human condition
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that we really do always find something to complain about. 
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Kangi Ska
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Oct 16 2010, 2:55pm
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By the way, I am almost hopeful. The eucatastrophy seems to be working out.
Kangi Ska
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Tim
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Oct 16 2010, 3:02pm
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and I don't actually view you as over cynical at all - so there HA!
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Kangi Ska
Gondolin
Oct 16 2010, 3:20pm
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psst...don't let anyone know...
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They all think I won't buy a ticket because of the 3-D thing.
They do not understand.
Kangi Ska
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Oiotári
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Oct 16 2010, 3:30pm
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that he will at least show up when they are talking about retaking the Lonely Mountain at the very beginning
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Patty
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Oct 16 2010, 3:59pm
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So, I want to know if we are going to be fortunate enough to get..
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Andrew Lesnie again as DP, and if he is comfortable with this 3D thing.
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Rivendweller
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Oct 16 2010, 4:04pm
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Wow - Hi ! Haven't seen you in forever !!
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This is indeed good news is it not ? I lurk here more often than not as well as of late, but this news should bring more of the older sibs back I hope !! Good to * see * you though !! 
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Patty
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Oct 16 2010, 4:07pm
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what are tomorrow night's powerball numbers?
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Huan71
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Oct 16 2010, 4:21pm
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At last, the Hobbit gets the go ahead light! I, for one of many, am happy!!
...and i'm still pretty hopeful New Zealand will get to stage the gig!
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grammaboodawg
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Oct 16 2010, 6:23pm
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BANZAI!!!!!! *squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*
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THERE IT IS!!!! HERE WE GO!!!!!!! *spins in chair8 OMG!!! FINALLY AFINALLY FINALLY!!!!!!! I got hints this morning thtat thiere was news hereAND WOWW!!!! I'm sneaking in from working all day cuz I couldn't STAND IT ANYNORE!!!!
THANK YOU PETER!!! PHILIPPA! FRAN!!!! GDT!!!! \and all of the production companies that have FINALY GOTTON OFF THEIR DUFFS and got this train MOVING!!
*ears ringing* OMG! WHERE' S MY NITRO TABLETS AND OXYGEN!!!!
I'm so happy..... * tears flow* omg.......... prayer works!!! :D
 
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ranger123
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Oct 16 2010, 6:36pm
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I think the location of The Hobbit production has been decided
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I think the location of production has been decided upon already.
In order for The Hobbit to be greenlit, there first needs to be a budget that breaks down the cost of the production. That budget then has to be approved before the greenlight is given.
So now that we do have a greenlight, that means the budget has been signed off. The budget for making a film in NZ is going to be different from making a film in Scotland or Canada or Ireland etc. Different expenses, different tax incentives, etc. all mean different budgets.
I think that makes it pretty clear that the Hobbit budget has to be in line with a particular location(s). It has already been decided on IMHO.
The only question is...where?
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Kangi Ska
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Oct 16 2010, 7:34pm
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By Golly I Think You've Got It! //
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Kangi Ska Resident Cynic
The Hobbit is here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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Kangi Ska
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Oct 16 2010, 7:36pm
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Kangi Ska Resident Cynic
The Hobbit is here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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Oct 16 2010, 7:40pm
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Whoop! Go, gramma! (Did you see stormcrow's new footer?)
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Oiotári
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Oct 16 2010, 7:41pm
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your squee(...) was so long and high-pitched that it hurt my ears even reading it 
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you can fence yourselves in, but you cannot for ever fence it out
You can only come to the morning through the shadows
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Oct 16 2010, 11:00pm
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It's great to hear some comments from Guillermo himself. I have two strong impressions of him: He's a gleeful geek, and a thorough gentleman.
Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
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