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New York Times: Jackson to direct 'The Hobbit'
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Kelvarhin
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Oct 3 2010, 4:06am

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Doriath
Rivendell


Oct 3 2010, 6:52am

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Not whining [In reply to] Can't Post

Attempting to explain why myself and many others are less than thrilled for a 3D version is not the same as merely complaining. However, after this post I'm going to try to give it up because it seems pointless. In the case of people like Kangi's wife it's the inability to view 3D films. Yes, I understand there will probably be a 2D version in theaters and of course on DVD but that's not the issue. When a film is shot for 3D it's with that in mind. Shots that may have been shot from a totally different perspective will be done differently in order to achieve the best result for the 3D aspect. "Ooo looky, the arrow intended for Smaug is comin' right at me"! Yeah, neat-o. I will always wish for 2 things. To see what GDT's version would have been before it got yanked away from us and to see a Hobbit not shot for the 14 year old crowd. I also hope to live long enough to see all of these films remade someday with another great director, cast, location and so on. Of course P.J. and company will remain our heroes for having been able to get these versions to the screen for us to enjoy!

The Trees will have their revenge!


Kangi Ska
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Oct 3 2010, 7:06am

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I should let go of it too. [In reply to] Can't Post

At this point nothing said here is going to change anything. It will or won't be in 3-D and I will still go to it.
I am still skeptical and will be so until the two main rumors are confirmed. I would bet the farm on Peter as director but 3-D is a different story. GDT said that Peter was against it (No I don't have the reference and it may have been an inference) so I believe that there would have to be some heavy arm twisting or some deal worked out to change the films' course. Then again it could be shot as planned and Weta could do an ultra high end conversion. This would feed Weta and let Peter shoot his movie. What ever. This is the last hurrah.

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(This post was edited by Kangi Ska on Oct 3 2010, 7:07am)


Doriath
Rivendell


Oct 3 2010, 7:15am

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oh yeah, true [In reply to] Can't Post

they are still kinda just rumors

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Kangi Ska
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Oct 3 2010, 7:18am

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Yah rumors without any other sources confirming (as far as I have seen).// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Ermanatar
The Shire


Oct 3 2010, 8:49am

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3D isn't what it used to be [In reply to] Can't Post

When was the last time you went to see a 3D movie? It's not like it was back in the day when arrows were flying at your head, as you so eloquently put it. I have yet to see a shot that was set up specifically for 3D like what you're describing. At least not recently. Maybe back when Spy Kids 3D came out, but not since Avatar. It's not about distractions anymore. Nothing about the 3D experience took me out of the film when I saw Avatar in the theater. It's about pulling you in to the world, not constantly taking you out as 3D movies in the past have done. Just my two cents. Take it or leave it. ;)

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 3 2010, 9:06am

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Did you actually see Avatar.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Patty
Immortal


Oct 3 2010, 9:27am

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It's go great to be back to the 3D discussions again... [In reply to] Can't Post

we've been down in MGM and greenlight and union Hades for so long.

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Valinor


Oct 3 2010, 1:31pm

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Great! [In reply to] Can't Post

Though PJ initially didn't want to do it, with the departure of GdT it's probably a good solution. I had been wondering how a new director would deal with having to get on now after so much work of pre-production has already been done; he would be quite limited in doing his own thing, I imagine. So, if that is true, I'm a happy girl.

Not too happy about the 3D bit, however. My few experiences with that were horrible - vertigo and nausea, even with a 30-minute-film. Not sure I could even sit through a whole 3-hour-film.



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Alassëa Eruvande
Valinor


Oct 3 2010, 2:02pm

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The original picture was [In reply to] Can't Post

a tree hugger thing. I cropped that stuff out. But it's also an homage to my previous footer of my baby looking at a spot of light on the floor with the same quote from The Sil.


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And suddenly the Tornadoes saw afar off a greenlight, as it were a cloud with a living heart of flame;
and they knew that this was no vision only, but that PJ had made a new thing: The Hobbit, the Film that Is.

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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Oct 3 2010, 2:43pm

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That's rude [In reply to] Can't Post

Ermanatar clearly stated he had seen Avatar. What's the point of asking - with no further comment - whether he did so? Moreover, my experience of watching it in 3D was the same as his - pulling you in to the world, not constantly taking you out as 3D movies in the past have done. He even made it quite clear that it was only his opinion. You are certainly entitled to a different opinion, but it's not necessary to be insulting in expressing it.

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dormouse
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Oct 3 2010, 3:34pm

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It is, and I'm starting to get twitchy.... [In reply to] Can't Post

I've been searching the news pages over the weekend and there's plenty of hopeful reports, but they all seem to be feeding off the original 'any day now' ones from the LA Times and the New York Times. The union business is still rumbling away in the background, though - look at this:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/hobbit-battle-a-threat-to-film-talks/story-e6frg996-1225933544323


I want the good news to come true, but I do hope we're not all dancing round the Party Tree too soon...

*Anxiously crosses fingers and goes back to holding breath*


macfalk
Valinor


Oct 3 2010, 5:04pm

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I dont think Kangi was rude. Maybe he missed reading that part [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Oiotári
Tol Eressea


Oct 3 2010, 5:27pm

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well we haven't heard anything denying it either [In reply to] Can't Post

I'd think if PJ wasn't going to direct, he'd be pretty quick about putting down this rumor


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Oiotári
Tol Eressea


Oct 3 2010, 5:36pm

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agreed [In reply to] Can't Post

I never thought I'd be glad for these discussions to be back, but I am

It's nice to be discussing something, while not completely trivial, is much less critical than MGM, etc.


The wide world is all about you:
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macfalk
Valinor


Oct 3 2010, 5:38pm

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You're right Oiorari [In reply to] Can't Post

What's promising is that Jackson's spokeman declined to comment, I think he would have said "no" if that was not the case - like he did some months ago where he said that it was not possible. I have hope.


Doriath
Rivendell


Oct 3 2010, 5:54pm

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Let's say we get the green soon [In reply to] Can't Post

what happens between now and January? I'm guessing mainly casting and the Weta workshop buzzing right along? Will be nice to start getting into the fun of it again after all this hardship.

The Trees will have their revenge! And they will have it in glorious 2D!


Flagg
Tol Eressea

Oct 3 2010, 6:13pm

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It will be chaos [In reply to] Can't Post

It will be a fun and chaotic rollercoaster of casting rumours and speculation. There will be angst aplenty. While I'm hoping Martin Freeman gets the lead role, I would also like Doug Jones and Ron Perlman to appear (probably as the Goblin-King and Beorn). Anything that makes this version of The Hobbit closer to del Toro's unrealised vision is a plus in my book.


Doriath
Rivendell


Oct 3 2010, 6:34pm

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I vote for GDT in a cameo! [In reply to] Can't Post

Hmmm...but what could it be? Maybe somewhere in the end battle or a resident of Laketown? ;)

The Trees will have their revenge! And they will have it in glorious 2D!


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 3 2010, 6:39pm

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"I have yet to see a shot that was set up specifically for 3D" [In reply to] Can't Post

The entire movie was composed around the 3-D effect. It is not the only thing going on but it is always conscientiously there. There were not a lot of Jump-out-at-you effects but the little floaty seed things stick in my mind. I saw the digital effects as truly superior in the movie. The actual 3-D effect works nearly the same as it did in1968 though it is a great deal less blurry. However the restraint shown by the film makers was remarkable and accounts for a lot of positive response to the movie. My biggest problem with the techniques used by the makers of Avatar was not 3-D but the digital creation and alteration of everything on the screen. This helped to keep the totally CGI sequences from clashing with live action shots but it did it at the expense of reality. A vague hint of Beowolf, 300 and yes Schrek tinged the film. This is a matter of taste. And Avatar was a good story to showcase the state of the digital 3-D arts and it was done masterfully but in regards to filming (or should I say shooting and compositing) the two Hobbit movies using the same approach will not necessarily ruin the tale. It will completely detach these two films from the three that preceded. It will never be a five movie set.

I have said enough about the problems 3-D causes a good percentage of viewers and it would be nice if they have theaters for the 3-D challenged. It is not nice that theater operators set a premium on the ticket prices for 3-D films.

Now...

Kangi Ska

The Hobbit is almost here.

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

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Flagg
Tol Eressea

Oct 3 2010, 6:43pm

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He was going to play a creature [In reply to] Can't Post

Guillermo was going to play a creature in prosthetics who said a couple of lines, then got killed. He planned to sculpt the prosthetics himself. My guess is a goblin at the Battle of Five Armies. And yes, I hope it happens, too.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Oct 3 2010, 6:44pm

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Guillermo [In reply to] Can't Post

was born to be the Great Goblin. But they will have to use a lot of prostheses to cover up his cuddly self. (And that was not a fat slam as I am also gravitationally challenged.)EvilEvil

Kangi Ska

The Hobbit is almost here.

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.

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Doriath
Rivendell


Oct 3 2010, 7:05pm

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can't help but feel [In reply to] Can't Post

like we're going to see a headline we've all been waiting for either today or tomorrow. Now I have to go to work and be away from the computer. Sigh. At least it's great pay on Sunday. Thanks union! :)

The Trees will have their revenge! And they will have it in glorious 2D!


Oiotári
Tol Eressea


Oct 3 2010, 7:10pm

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I know [In reply to] Can't Post

I keep refreshing the front page regularly hoping to see a green-light announcement

*clicks refresh button*Cool


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Mithrandír
Lorien


Oct 3 2010, 8:14pm

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HIIIIIIHAAAAA!!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

That's basically my only emotion right now :)

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