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Buchanicus
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Jul 29 2010, 10:15am
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Guillermo del Toro to direct At the Mountains of Madness
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Aintitcool news is reporting that GdT's next film will be At That Mountains of Madness, his long-time dream movie, for Universal pictures with James Cameron producing. And it will be in 3D.
Here' the link to the story...
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/45949
Very interesting...I wonder if this development had any influence on his decision to leave The Hobbit. I kind of doubt it, but still interesting...
TORn member formally known as ryan1976.
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Theodred
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Jul 29 2010, 10:54am
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Very interesting that Del Toro will shoot this movie in 3D,
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because it means he's probably in favor of 3D. This could mean that he also wanted to shoot The Hobbit in 3D, and others (PJ?) were against it, and that this was one of the reasons he left this project?
By the way, I wondered if Del Toro is still willing to play a minor role in TH, as he said earlier this year, as some kind of tribute, or is that unthinkable now?
http://dehobbithyve.hyves.nl/
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Kangi Ska
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Jul 29 2010, 2:44pm
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It is not all or nothing. GDT has said that the Hobbit should not be in 3-D to conform with LotR format and i believe he means it. However this would not mean that he necessarily would be against the tool and using it where it applies.
If the news about the Mountains of Madness is correct, and James Cameron is going to produce if GDT films in 3-D this might explain the final straw for G to get on with his life and career. Pete is friends with Jim and he would be sympathetic with G.
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g_jones
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Jul 29 2010, 2:47pm
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So Cameron LURED AWAY Del Toro by promising to help finance his dream film if he shoots it in 3D. a big win for 3D technology. (2D Hobbit would have been a strike against it)
I can see why Del Toro wouldn't want to be just sitting on his thumbs for months in NZ waiting to see what happens with MGM - he has Disney and James Cameron calling him up offering him the chance to make his dream projects!!!
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Kangi Ska
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Jul 29 2010, 2:51pm
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It would be very hard to say no.
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And I think PJ would have been very understanding.
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thirdage
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Jul 29 2010, 4:37pm
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If you go back and look at Guillermo's posts on 3-D in relation to the Hobbit, you'll see that he was 'neutral' or 'negative' about using 3-D on the Hobbit, but valued it for other films. He felt that 3-D would not have been consistent with the original trilogy.
I know Guillermo personally and he was not 'lured away' by any other project (be it HAUNTED MANSION, ATMOM or FRANKENSTEIN). The decision to leave was a difficult one, and he made it with no project ahead of him.
Lastly, Jim Cameron and Guillermo have been friends for over 20 years (since CRONOS). Cameron helped Guillermo rescue his father when kidnapped. They've always wanted to work together.
Hope this provides some insight. Thanks!
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Elven
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Jul 29 2010, 5:00pm
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GdT mentioned this on tORN in 2008 ...
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Oh wow, I hoped that he would do At The Mountain of Madness!
He has kept this movie-in-the-making alive, just as he said he was doing - and he mentions his association with Universal Studios. GdT (as I recall) has a deal for 3 films with them.
tORN Transcript – GdT interviewed by Anthony Moody Oct 2008:
Guillermo:
And allow me to add one thing – because of all those projects, there is one that is to me – in a way I it may not be as complex and as monumental at first sight as The Hobbit, but is ‘At The Mountains of Madness’. And that movie I have kept alive for many, many years and I want to keep it alive to do as soon as I can.
Right now I am fortunate that most of my projects rest at the same place, and that is Universal, including Saturn and the End of Days. So I want to send a message out that, that that movie is alive and well and that there’s a lot of research and development that has to be done to create the creatures in that movie, and the City. Some artists and key technicians have been working on for now years, and will continue to work through the production and post production of The Hobbit. Scrutinized by me, but they have their own set of logarithms and chemical materials to solve before we can create those creatures properly. So that movie is not dead – it’s not instated, it continues to evolve with Te Hobbit. And it is my belief that a lot of the stuff we’re going to develop in terms of digital and make-up tools for The Hobbit will be used for that.
Im excited! 
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Tim
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Jul 29 2010, 5:11pm
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I knew I had read that quote somewhere just couldn't remember where. I have CRS - Can't Remember S***
I happen to agree with GDT on this one - no 3D to keep The Hobbit in tune with LOTR.
And no I have nothing against MODERN 3D - as used say in Avatar (not that I'm a huge fan of Avatar). It did give my daughter a headache though when we all went to watch it with the 3D glasses.
A soul in tension that's learning to fly
Condition grounded but determined to try
Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies
Tongue-tied and twisted just an earth-bound misfit, I
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Elven
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Jul 29 2010, 5:28pm
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AtMoM should be awesome in 3D ...
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and I hope that he will follow with Saturn End of Days, and Frankenstein - and then hopfully the Strain Trilogy as I think that will be 3D worthy - maybe by then 3D and technology will have advanced and be in the next stage - no glasses - and they re-invent what its 'screened' upon.
Im a bit  with the glasses myself - but I'll certainly see it when it comes out!
Hopefully GdT will do something like a Popcorn Taxi interview with the film - here's hoping. 
Cheers
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Pipe Dream
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Jul 29 2010, 10:01pm
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Looks like 3D viewing is on a downward spiral according to these figures, here are the percentages of 3D viewing vs. 2D.
I noticed it first on The Noldor Blog. and here is the full article from stuff.co.nz
December 2009 - Avatar 3D, approx 71% of the audience watched in 3D
March 2010 - How To Train Your Dragon 3D, approx 68% of the audience watched in 3D
May 2010 - Shrek Forever After 3D, the figure had dropped to 61%
July 2010 - The Last Airbender 3D, down to 56%
Last week of July 2010 - Despicable Me 3D - 45%
Pre-Pre-production goes ever on and on...
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Huan71
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Jul 29 2010, 10:15pm
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good!
In fact, i may find myself looking forward to it more than "The Hobbit"...should i feel guilty?
BTW...Do you sit near the back (and preferably centre) of the cinema for 3D viewings?
If not, it MAY help ?!
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SirDennisC
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Jul 29 2010, 11:28pm
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2D Hobbit would have been a strike against [3D technology].
I wonder if they really do play that hard? Fascinating!
My sense of GDT and 3D is that if the treatment warranted it, he was willing to use it. As he said, in the case of the Hobbit, it was not. 3D tech is one of many tools in the film-maker's arsenal; like any auteur GDT knows when to use a scalpel and when to use M32 MSGL.
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Sunflower
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Jul 30 2010, 12:40am
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I can tell you it was not that way at all. I have been reading and posting on Del Toro's website for years....oh heck, as I don't have time to post on this subject today, I think I run over to DTF and get someone who knows Guillermo and whom we have heard from...HM may be able to shine a lot more light on this.
Back tomorrow with my thoughts on this (initial reaction: "Tekeli-li! Tekeli-li!" (sorry for the ATMOM ref, Mr Cere, but that is a mildly enthusiastic reaction...)
More tomorrow and a description of the project. It does not fully comfmt me after the loss of ME00I still hold to yesterdfay comments--but I thought this film ewas impossible, but I never dreamed Cameron was a Lovecrafdt nut...to that extenet...the story is his masterpiece.
It might be summed up as "King Kong in Antartica" but with prehistoric aliens in a monstrous mountaintop city millions of yrs old, the mountians being 40,000 feet high...instead of Kong on a tropical island. I advise tou to read it...I love readsing it over and over b/c Lovecraft is almost Tolkenian in his poetry of language, geography, etc.
More later...
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Kangi Ska
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Jul 30 2010, 12:44am
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Not Generally Against 3-D (The Hobbit being the exception)
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3-D has been the next big thing in cinema several times in my lifetime. I believe it still has serious limitations including a large percentage of the potential audience that can not watch it due to physical problems or who object to the glasses or who just do not like it. I think that it is slowly improving but is still not the format for all movies. With people like James Cameron pushing to improve the technology things are bound to happen. Right now I think that it is still a novelty best suited for cartoons, digitally rebuilt live action and video games.
My secondary issue is the use of it to justify higher ticket prices. The studios lose money because two out of three movies they make are pitiful so they are always looking for a shill to make a buck. How many versions of the Lord of the Rings do I have to buy.
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SirDennisC
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Jul 30 2010, 12:53am
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What you say sounds reasonable. Hope you stick around... looking forward to more of your insights.
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thirdage
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Jul 30 2010, 1:41am
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Many thanks! I'm glad to be here!
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duats
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Jul 31 2010, 12:59am
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I've been waiting for this project for YEARS. Congratulations, Mr. Del Toro.
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