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Who controls Moria FOTR/TT

owenj544
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Apr 29 2010, 6:17pm


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Hi! I am trying to make sense of Moria in The Fellowship of the Ring and The Two Towers and would appreciate any ideas supported by documentary evidence that would answer the following questions.

Orcs:
  • Is the goblin/orc takeover of Moria orchestrated by Sauron during his occupation of Mirkwood (Dol Guldur), by the Balrog, or by their own design?
  • Does Sauron, the Balrog, or the orc chieftain command the orcs in Moria?
  • When the orcs pursue the Fellowship and seek to kill them are they mourning and avenging the death of the orc chieftain, the Balrog, or both?
  • Were the Moria orcs aided by orcs from Dol Guldur?
  • Did the Moria orcs receive instructions from a nazgul to kill the Fellowship and wake the Balrog?
  • Why are the Moria orcs only interested in killing the Fellowship to avenge their loss, while the forces from Isengard and Mordor want to capture the Fellowship and bring back prisoners to their respective towers? If the Moria orcs are serving Sauron, why do they seem to thwart the Mordor orcs in taking the hobbits to Barad-dur?

Balrog, Durin's Bane:
  • When does the Balrog enter Moria, and is he sent or does he move there by free will? What attracted the Balrog to Moria: wealth (making the move similar to the greed of the dragon Smaug in The Hobbit), a good hiding place (offered by the deep caverns - suggesting an entrenching after the War of Wrath), or a plan (suggesting a movement by Sauron to strike at the dwarves and elves, or even a possible palantir vision used by the forces of Mordor to plant obstacles to the eventual coming of the Fellowship)
  • Was the Balrog awakened by the dwarven delving or by Sauron's presence at Dol Guldur?
  • Is the Balrog serving his own machinations or Sauron's?
Watcher in the Water
  • Who created the Watcher - Melkor, Sauron, or Eru?
  • Is the Watcher sapient and consciously carrying out evil or is it a hungry and disturbed beast?


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Who controls Moria FOTR/TT owenj544 Send a private message to owenj544 Apr 29 2010, 6:17pm
    At first I thought this was homework, but as I examined the questions, Curious Send a private message to Curious Apr 29 2010, 8:42pm
    One answer Hamfast Gamgee Send a private message to Hamfast Gamgee Apr 29 2010, 11:35pm
    About the Nazgul quetion why not ask me??? TheNazgul Send a private message to TheNazgul Apr 30 2010, 1:12am
        If the Nazgul were involved... GAndyalf Send a private message to GAndyalf Apr 30 2010, 1:19am
    Some answers and some speculation... GAndyalf Send a private message to GAndyalf Apr 30 2010, 2:09am
    Instructions to Moria about Frodo CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Apr 30 2010, 12:57pm
    Answers sador Send a private message to sador May 2 2010, 12:47pm
        The Watcher made the Pool? squire Send a private message to squire May 2 2010, 2:40pm
            Maybe I was too hasty. sador Send a private message to sador May 2 2010, 2:44pm
            I always thought so. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand May 2 2010, 2:50pm
            Origin of the Watcher; more on the Balrog--why quiescent for 5 years? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 3 2010, 12:07am
                A party of nine, why the fuss? Hamfast Gamgee Send a private message to Hamfast Gamgee May 3 2010, 11:24pm
    Myth and Epistemology Grotug Send a private message to Grotug May 8 2010, 11:27pm
        And the sound of one hand clapping is... Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska May 8 2010, 11:29pm
            seriously... Grotug Send a private message to Grotug May 9 2010, 12:03am
                My answer was serious. Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska May 9 2010, 12:46am
                    Tolkien was a Mythologist Grotug Send a private message to Grotug May 9 2010, 1:18am
        Good question squire Send a private message to squire May 9 2010, 2:33am
        I would never waste my time on these questions Curious Send a private message to Curious May 9 2010, 10:46am
            Definitive answers? No. Discussion? Yes. CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 10 2010, 12:12pm

 
 
 

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