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What did Christopher Tolkien think about the films?
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macfalk
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Apr 22 2010, 8:27pm

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LordotRings93
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Apr 22 2010, 11:27pm

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Always wondered too [In reply to] Can't Post

I read some things that he really didn't care for them and thought that his father's work wouldn't translate well to media. But I really don't know what he thought about them. If someone could better elaborate?

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Apr 23 2010, 12:05am

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I do not believe he has commented publicly.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Apr 23 2010, 12:08am

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I think you're right, Kangi. In fact... [In reply to] Can't Post

I wonder if he has even seen them.

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Apr 23 2010, 12:11am

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The closest I could find was this [In reply to] Can't Post

http://news.bbc.co.uk/...tainment/1697884.stm


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The son of author JRR Tolkien has denied reports that he is unhappy with the way the Lord of the Rings films have been made.
Christopher Tolkien is one of famous author's three surviving children and owns the rights to his father's literary legacy.
He had remained silent about the films, but reports claimed he was unhappy with the way the film-makers interpreted his father's books.
It was also reported that the Tolkien family had fallen out over the issue.
In a statement through his solicitors, Tolkien said he thought it would be impossible to translate his father's novels onto the big screen.
"My own position is that The Lord Of The Rings is peculiarly unsuitable to transformation into visual dramatic form," he said.
"The suggestions that have been made that I 'disapprove' of the films, vent to the extent of thinking ill of those with whom I may differ, are wholly without foundation."
He added that he had never "expressed any such feeling".


Honestly, I don't even know if he ever confirmed having seen any of the movies.



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Apr 23 2010, 12:12am

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Also, I type way too slowly [In reply to] Can't Post

as both Patty and Darkstone beat me out while I was looking up the article. Cool



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Apr 23 2010, 12:13am

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Apr 23 2010, 12:14am

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Apr 23 2010, 4:03am

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Basically what I said// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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macfalk
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Apr 23 2010, 7:36am

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Sounds unlikely to me... [In reply to] Can't Post

that he would never bother going seeing his father's most famous work coming to life. I know I would.


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Apr 23 2010, 7:58am

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He never watched them [In reply to] Can't Post

The whole Tolkien family really doesn't care about the films and didn't care to see them. I have this from an extremely dependable source, although it has been a few years since we talked about it.

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macfalk
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Apr 23 2010, 9:52am

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Why? [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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Apr 23 2010, 9:54am

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Don't you think [In reply to] Can't Post

you would be just a tiny bit curious? Surely he would want to take a peek?


macfalk
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Apr 23 2010, 9:55am

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Exactly, Starling [In reply to] Can't Post

Maybe they are just too proud to admit that they watched them.


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Apr 23 2010, 1:42pm

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Wasn't one of the younger generation [In reply to] Can't Post

on set in NZ and even played as an extra in the attack on Osgiliath? Royd Tolkien, I believe? But I think you are absolutely right as far as the older generation is concerned.

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Apr 23 2010, 2:15pm

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Kangi Ska
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Apr 23 2010, 2:21pm

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You should read up on Christopher Tolkien. [In reply to] Can't Post

All that I have ever heard would indicate that this is probably true. Ted Nasmith told me that he was a real nice guy. Guess he personally approved the art for the illustrated Silmarillion.

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Runk Snusgrop
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Apr 23 2010, 4:47pm

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Re: You should read up on Christopher Tolkien. [In reply to] Can't Post

You've met Ted Nasmith?!

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Kangi Ska
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Apr 23 2010, 5:14pm

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A very nice and generous & humble person, Mr. Nasmith. [In reply to] Can't Post

He did a presentation at a local book store when the Sil was just released. There were about 15 of us there and rather than just a signing he gave a slide show and then chatted with us. It was neat. I bought that copy of the Silmarillion that night. He signed it. Now if I could get ahold of Christopher T. ...

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Apr 23 2010, 5:17pm

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Re: A very nice and generous & humble person, Mr. Nasmith. [In reply to] Can't Post

I've been wanting a giant print of this painting on my wall for years: http://www.cynical-c.com/...ing_Long_Ago-Web.jpg

I can never seem to find one. Not one I can afford anyway.



Patty
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Apr 23 2010, 6:02pm

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Um. I usually love Mr. Nasmith's drawings.. [In reply to] Can't Post

but, as a person with pretty bad claustrophobia, the lack of windows at his drawing of BagEnd is making me not particularly love this piece. I do picture it more like Howe's version. No windows reminds me more of a mole tunnel, even with the front door open.

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Runk Snusgrop
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Apr 23 2010, 6:05pm

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Re: Um. I usually love Mr. Nasmith's drawings.. [In reply to] Can't Post

I hadn't even noticed the small number of windows! Crazy

I dunno, there's just something about how the light hits the green that gets me. I can't get enough of it, and I wouldn't mind a huge framed print of it in my livingroom.

That, or his Gondolin piece.



Patty
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Apr 23 2010, 6:08pm

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I think those ARE windows ( I had thought at first they were other doors to other homes.) Yes, the light is beautiful.

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Runk Snusgrop
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Apr 23 2010, 6:14pm

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I haven't met a picture of Gondolin that I didn't love.



True dat! I love John E Kaufmann's interpretation of it: http://jek2004.com/Gondolin.jpg

But I will always prefer Nasmith's: http://www.theonering.com/...ibrary/96tcal_06.jpg

Probably because it reminds of Minas Tirith. For reasons unknown even to me, I am highly partial to Minas Tirith & Minas Ithil. And Minas Morgul too for that matter.



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Apr 23 2010, 8:38pm

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Pure speculation on my part, but... [In reply to] Can't Post

it doesn't seem strange to me. Think about it - Christopher grew up hearing his father's tales and when he was away fighting in the war his father sent him chapters of LOTR as he wrote them. It must have been a unique part of his childhood and maybe an even more precious and essential escape in wartime. He has probably the most personal connection with these stories of anyone in the world, and he's spent his life as his father's literary executor.

When we read the books, especially those of us who read them prior to seeing the movies, we each develop a vivid personal imagination of them. I don't have any trouble understanding that he might not want his, which is quite literally his inheritance from his father, disturbed by someone else's interpretation, let alone their changes and additions. In his place, I don't know that I would either.

Seems to me that expecting Christopher Tolkien to watch the movies is a bit like making verses about Earendil in the house of Elrond.

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