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The Hobbit delayed till 2012 again
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LordotRings93
Rohan


Jan 25 2010, 9:34pm

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The Hobbit delayed till 2012 again Can't Post

From the head on New Line Cinemas: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=62637

Well this sucks.... they say that it won't be ready till likely Q4 2012.

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(This post was edited by LordotRings93 on Jan 25 2010, 9:35pm)


Arwen's daughter
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Jan 25 2010, 10:14pm

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*Looks down the board* [In reply to] Can't Post

You might be interested in this thread: http://newboards.theonering.net/...i?post=234776#234776



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AinurOlorin
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Jan 26 2010, 3:18am

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If this turns out to be true it just makes me sick! [In reply to] Can't Post

Damned New Line. Seems like as long as their name wasn't being mentioned everything was just fine. Mad

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MrCere
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Jan 26 2010, 6:24am

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The delay [In reply to] Can't Post

The delay, if there is one, seems to stem from the second script not being turned in so that the film can be budgeted and financed. I wouldn't expect any studio to simply write a blank check.

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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Jan 26 2010, 3:35pm

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I would much, much, much rather wait an extra year [In reply to] Can't Post

than have the artists rush to meet an artificial and meaningless deadline. In the grand scheme of things, what difference does a year make? But the difference in quality between a rushed effort and one that allows them to take as much time is as necessary will last forever (or at least as long as films last). The reaction of some people to this news -- even if it is true, which is highly questionable -- strikes me as somewhat immature at best.

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jan 26 2010, 3:37pm

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You must be young. [In reply to] Can't Post

Some of us may not live to see the movies!

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(This post was edited by Kangi Ska on Jan 26 2010, 3:38pm)


balinman
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Jan 26 2010, 4:14pm

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You must be young. [In reply to] Can't Post


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Sunflower
Valinor

Jan 26 2010, 5:15pm

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Well... [In reply to] Can't Post

I can sympathize with the Creatives. There must be a hge debate going on, in the wake of Avatar's success: 3D or no 3D? The script must be re-written if they decide yes. Think about it: everyone is rushing to do 3D at this point--it's a stampede. For financial reasons, if nothing else. What a condoundrum...last month Del Toro was hoping to wow everyone with Smaug, and now everyone will just go and say "NotasgoodasTurokMakto*YAWN*." And no matter what the fans think, I can imagine some at the studio might not want TH to be looking like "old hat" either in terms of visuals or boxoffice, considerig the higher ticket prices.

I am not arguing for or against it per se, right now. The only bad thing, if this is true, is that Dec now seems to be the month for the Avatar sequels. The "TH in Dec 2011 and Dec 2012 and maybe Avatar 2 in Dec 2013" scenario would have been perfect. If TH is delayed, it will have to share the last half of Decamber with Cameron's sequels. Which would not be a good thing for either film...to be in competition. B/c we know who would get the lock on profits.

(Just thinking like a Studio Stooge hereSly)


Eryn
Bree

Jan 26 2010, 5:21pm

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nooo! [In reply to] Can't Post

Oh man! I had hoped this rumour would be squashed the last time it was around... I can't hold out that long!!!!! 2011 is long enough!!!
I also really hope they don't make it 3D. It's a great development in cinema, yes. But I honestly don't think all movies should convert. Besides- The Hobbit doesn't need 3D-ifying! It's awesome as it is, and I think making it 3D will actually make it less believable, less authentic.


Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Jan 26 2010, 5:29pm

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Nope, a greybeard like you [In reply to] Can't Post

The extra year -- if it happens -- isn't going to make that much difference. In fact, a year in our lives is a shorter amount of time, comparatively, than it is to those young kids.

Patience, my friend.

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jan 26 2010, 5:43pm

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Depends on from which end you are counting. [In reply to] Can't Post

But it is an incentive.

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chrism628
Bree

Jan 26 2010, 11:25pm

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2011 Will Still Be Good [In reply to] Can't Post

Blue-ray extended edition release of LOTR in 2011?!? Sounds good to me


Eldorion
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Jan 27 2010, 1:00am

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I'm not sure... [In reply to] Can't Post

...that making the movie 3D would necessitate a script rewrite. The story is still the same; it's just the visuals that arre somewhat different.

Also, I don't think competition is bad, especially since interest in one fantasy film (that's essentially what Avatar is even though its also science fiction) can raise interest in the whole genre. Think HP1 and FotR. That said, ihaving them open in the same weekend or almost as close would probably hurt both. For a pair of blockbusters like that, I think one would move the release date by a few weeks, maybe to the end of November.


almas_sparks
Rohan

Jan 27 2010, 1:55am

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two or three years same thing [In reply to] Can't Post

the wait is wait. But delay to 2012 gives hope that real 3D and IMAX will be a go. WB wants to convert/film last HP movies in 3D which is a greta idea and imersion in Hobbit world will be awesome. When I watched Avatar, I thought how Smaug and flight on the eagles will be amazing since flights of Toruck Maktaw and iqrals were just incredible.


FarFromHome
Valinor


Jan 27 2010, 1:59am

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What's worrying me [In reply to] Can't Post

is how we're going to keep talking about this stuff for an extra year.... Tongue

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almas_sparks
Rohan

Jan 27 2010, 2:14am

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ah, but we will know the cast [In reply to] Can't Post

and get pictures and footage.


Eldorion
Rohan


Jan 27 2010, 2:42am

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That's a worry? [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm loving the build-up myselfm probably because I'm too young to have been part of it for LotR. Sly


FarFromHome
Valinor


Jan 27 2010, 3:06am

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I'm so old [In reply to] Can't Post

I even remember the buildup for Bakshi's LotR. That was such a bust that I stayed away completely from the Jackson LotR buildup - only decided to see FotR after I read a few reviews and saw a few stills that reassured me.

But reading back now, looking at the way off-base theories that were floating around TORn at that time, I'm under no illusions that anything we're saying here will seem relevant at all once we see what the filmmakers are actually doing...

On the other hand, I can't deny I'm having fun so far...

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But even as he did so, he heard suddenly,
deep and unstilled,
the sigh and murmur of the Sea upon the shores of Middle-earth.
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Eldorion
Rohan


Jan 27 2010, 3:13am

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One day [In reply to] Can't Post

I will be able to point back to my crazy theories and call people 'younguns'. This is probably more fun though. Tongue


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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jan 27 2010, 3:34am

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A Bakshi Aside: [In reply to] Can't Post

I had an almost identical experience with the Bakshi film and also decided not to follow the build up to the Peter Jackson films. I was so angered I just did not want to deal with it. I missed the opening of Fellowship and went a while later. I have cursed that choice. A week ago I watched the Bakshi film again. That was the first time since the premier. The roto-scope crap was still horrible. Boromir the Viking... The non-end ending... all were still there, But between those problems I saw that Ralph had worked out a nearly passable adaptation. To bad about the money and technology that prevented a better outcome.

Kangi Ska

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Eldorion
Rohan


Jan 27 2010, 3:39am

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What do you mean... [In reply to] Can't Post

...by "a nearly passable adaptation"? Are you suggesting Bakshi came close to being accurate to the book?


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jan 27 2010, 4:47am

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Hardly [In reply to] Can't Post

I was saying that it was a bit better than I thought when I saw it in the theater. There a some who post right here on these boards that think it is good. It was their writing that got me to look at it again. I had owned the DVD for over two years. Got it at a rummage sale for a dollar.

Kangi Ska

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jan 27 2010, 4:56am

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And by the way [In reply to] Can't Post

On one of the other active threads there is a long argument about exactly constitutes a good adaptation.
And I would add that there has only been one adaptation of The Hobbit that I truly liked and that was a set of vinyls narrated by Nicol Williamson that the Professor signed off on.

Kangi Ska

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Eowyn of Penns Woods
Valinor


Jan 27 2010, 5:10am

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How? Or the way? I'm worried that I can't hold my virtual alcohol for another year of this. ;) // [In reply to] Can't Post



duats
Grey Havens

Jan 27 2010, 5:13am

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A two-year wait isn't all that bad [In reply to] Can't Post

I had to wait three years after Batman Begins for The Dark Knight. Got through that time by doing what I'm doing now: reading up on the latest news/rumors, discussing the film/s on message boards, and going about my everyday life.

We also had a two-year wait in between Return of the King and King Kong. But that time went exceptionally fast due to the production diaries that satiated me each week.

I would LOVE PJ and GDT to make production diaries for The Hobbit films. I'm hoping they are at least throwing the idea around. Even one once a month would be great.

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