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Dec 11 2009, 2:58am

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Updates on the updates and general annotations on TH. Can't Post

So, now that PJ's Lovely Bones tour is almost over, I thought it wise- seeing how some can whip up into a frenzy- to drop by and chat a bit.

A) About ONLY 3 actors returning: I think the emphasis on "only" is what slant the news the wrong way. I cannot imagine Gollum being played by anyone but Andy and in the second script there is still much in discussion to lock everything for now. Both PJ and I chime in on things "as they are at the moment" and, of course, things change.

I, for one, understand where Peter's coming from since 30% of my STRAIN tour questions, HELLBOY II, ORPHANAGE promotion questions, etc, etc where about the Hobbit. At different time we have been closer in locking on a piece of casting or hoping to get a script delivered, etc and things simply changed as we went along. So, don't etch this in stone or anything we both have said in the past, in stone since we communicate what we can when the window of exposure to the press and fans happens.

I still prefer to keep the dialogue open- inexact as it may get- that to remain mum or one-sided with the community that can really understand this project.

B) The target for production. Its simple: we may say what we want but until there are two scripts delivered and budgets and schedules to support them we will be all under a yellow light of development. THAT we have not stopped. As I have reported in the past, we are scouting, designing (my last 3 hour meeting with Weta was this morning) and will not stop. BUT the greenlight and thus commencement can only be granted by the studio. Pete as producer and me as director will do everything we can in the meantime.

C) Is there any trouble brewing with WB? Not at all. All I can say is that they reacted to our delivered script with great delight and we have been receiving strong support in our development.

Smaug is being animation tested, we are editing the previs, doing final selections on Dwarven War Artifacts and Gear and starting many fabrication tests for armies, prosthetics and wardrobes, etc

However, I do plan to be less and less in the public spotlight for two simple reasons: One: I am damn busy prepping this two Behemoths. Two: quite likely, I'll have very limited, if any, promotional time for "Don't Be Afraid of the Dark" or "The Fall" (Second Strain book) myself but fear not- I will drop in as much as possible, as always.



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Dec 11 2009, 3:03am

Post #2 of 66 (5860 views)
Thanks for the updates! [In reply to] Can't Post

All sounds very exciting, and it's a relief to hear Andy's definitely back and there may be room for a few more returnees as well.


Dec 11 2009, 3:06am

Post #3 of 66 (5754 views)
Thanks, as always for taking the time to post here [In reply to] Can't Post

We're cheering for you, as always (one doesn't 'root' for someone in NZ if you haven't already discovered that Wink).

Rumors are part of the fun for us fans, but do get out of control. We appreciate you bringing the balloon a little closer to earth every now and then. I hope you take some time to enjoy the holidays with your family!

All the best!

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Dec 11 2009, 3:08am

Post #4 of 66 (5775 views)
You are a gentleman and a scholar [In reply to] Can't Post

And a damn fine human being. (Not to mention a great artist.)

Thanks for the update.

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Dec 11 2009, 3:09am

Post #5 of 66 (5708 views)
Cool [In reply to] Can't Post

As always, appreciate the update even when you don't have to. Stay busy! We like it that way....

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Dec 11 2009, 3:10am

Post #6 of 66 (5784 views)
Thanks for the update! [In reply to] Can't Post

It's exciting to hear things are moving along, if not always at the pace we wish!
I hope you are able to enjoy the upcoming holiday with your family.
Thank you again for dropping by!

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Dec 11 2009, 3:16am

Post #7 of 66 (5713 views)
Thanks so much for taking the time to keep us up to date. [In reply to] Can't Post

I wish you all the luck on this massive project, and also wish you and yours a very merry Christmas!

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Dec 11 2009, 3:17am

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Did I hear "wardrobe"? [In reply to] Can't Post

Thank you very much for the updates. Our imaginations do run away with us, sometimes. We appreciate you stopping by to keep us updated. Best of luck with your busy schedule. I hope you get to take some time off for the holidays.

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Dec 11 2009, 3:41am

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Thank you for stopping in, Guillermo! [In reply to] Can't Post

It's very kind of you to pop your head in the door and calm the masses. :)

Amid all the busy-ness I hope you manage to get some time to yourself over the Christmas/New Year period and get some Wellington sunshine to soak up!

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Dec 11 2009, 3:43am

Post #10 of 66 (5758 views)
thanks for the update! [In reply to] Can't Post

before the frenzy gets totally out of hand! yours is the best and most trusted news all day! Happy Holidays!!!

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Dec 11 2009, 3:49am

Post #11 of 66 (5686 views)
Thanks for the update! [In reply to] Can't Post

I, for one, appreciate it so much- any time you decide to drop in is great, though naturally you have more important things to do.

Thanks for debunking the rumors, as well. Hopefully this will knock down some of the drama.

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Dec 11 2009, 5:14am

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Thank you, Mr. Del Toro [In reply to] Can't Post

For taking time out of your schedule to talk to us. It's very telling of your character, and it's a truly appreciated quality to be found in a director.

Everything sounds good, and any updates regarding Smaug puts a smile on my face. He's my favorite creature in all of Tolkien's works, so I'll be expecting some great things out of old Smaug the Golden (no pressure lol).

I know you don't need me of all people to tell you this, but by all means you guys take your time. I'd rather wait a little longer for a better product. If anything, I'd just like to get my hands on some of that WETA concept art to tide me over. Just a peak Wink.

But I did have one question for you, Mr. Del Toro. As you are certainly aware, almost everyone in Hollywood is discussing how James Cameron has revolutionized special effects with his new film AVATAR. Considering Weta worked on the CGI for that film, are you guys planning on utilizing any new technology from Avatar in bringing THE HOBBIT creatures to life?

All in all, keep up the good work. Thanks again, and happy holidays.

(This post was edited by duats on Dec 11 2009, 5:20am)


Dec 11 2009, 6:18am

Post #13 of 66 (5683 views)
You're a champion Gdt ... thanks [In reply to] Can't Post

for taking the time to pop in and let us know SOOO much - thats a bulk of information you've shared with tORN, and its nice to see you take the time for us and let us know how its rolling for you and the teams working behind the scenes.
Im looking forward to seeing Dont Be Afraid of the Dark too - hope there's a big opening night in Australia for it.



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Dec 11 2009, 6:27am

Post #14 of 66 (5688 views)
Well this sure beats the crap outta that December 8th announcement :D [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks for dropping by Cool

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Dec 11 2009, 8:09am

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The "Yellow Face" is Gollum's name for the sun [In reply to] Can't Post

and thank you for bringing some yellow sunlight into our day.

May you and all the Hobbit crew enjoy your holidays and have a happy and productive New Year.

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Dec 11 2009, 8:48am

Post #16 of 66 (5693 views)
Thank you, Mr. del Toro! [In reply to] Can't Post

Thank you, Mr. de Toro, for keeping us informed Smile


Dec 11 2009, 8:55am

Post #17 of 66 (5690 views)
Guillermo... [In reply to] Can't Post

responding to this before having read any of the additional posts...


at the statements you made...
"I cannot imagine Gollum being played by anyone but Andy..."
"Smaug is being animation tested..."
"final selections on Dwarven Artifacts and Gear..."

I had to hold my breath with excited outburst and relief...(seriously)

thank you Sir...thank you...thank you...

Tri duath telich na estel lin...a si gerich naid bain anirach.

(This post was edited by sticklebat on Dec 11 2009, 8:56am)

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Dec 11 2009, 10:05am

Post #18 of 66 (5699 views)
Can we trust this guy? Yup! [In reply to] Can't Post

It is hilarious to me that all of us scramble over press reports trying to figure out this and that and then Mr. GDT (one of the most popular board members I am sure) stops in to give us the gospel truth.

Simply amazing!

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Dec 11 2009, 10:08am

Post #19 of 66 (5655 views)
Thank you Mr Del Toro [In reply to] Can't Post

This will certainly help contain our fears. There has been some negative speculation around here lately (only because we care about your project so much) so it's good to get the reassurance! We know that you do not have the time or freedom to read or repsond to all our posts and threads so this is very much appreciated. Smile

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Dec 11 2009, 10:13am

Post #20 of 66 (5644 views)
So kind of you, dear Guillermo, these reassurances of yours [In reply to] Can't Post

concerning your point A- Andy Serkis as Gollum, and the still possible other returnees from the LOTR cast (oh, to see Liv and Viggo again as Arwen & Aragorn, falling in love; Orlando as Legolas, becoming friends with Aragorn; and of course Christopher Lee as Saruman, turning evil...!) as well as your points B and C.

All my gratitude to you for this!
And to all of you, the wonderful writers foursome team and others already involved also in the making of 'The Hobbit'... my Best Wishes for the Holidays, hoping for you that you'll get some!!!

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Dec 11 2009, 10:17am

Post #21 of 66 (5614 views)
There you are!!! :D *geeky hand-clapping* [In reply to] Can't Post

As usual, you leave me with a MASSIVE SMILE ON MY FACE!!!! I'm so grateful that you are careful of what you say is coming. False starts and missed specific dates of announcements are more frustrating than waiting for confirmed decisions or directions.

You're doing Smaug tests?!? *twitter* That's so exciting! All of the pre-vis work has GOT to be so exciting for you!

Thank you for all of your updates and re-assurances. You just can't say fairer than that!

Take care, and have fun! :D


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Dec 11 2009, 10:40am

Post #22 of 66 (5660 views)
YESSS! [In reply to] Can't Post

SMAUG + ANIMATION + TEST = VERY LARGE smile on my face for the rest of the day!
Thanks!!! We all know you do not have to keep us in the loop, but care enough to.
Can't wait until your next update, if and when you have the time again.

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Dec 11 2009, 11:46am

Post #23 of 66 (5545 views)
...How lucky are we to have this kind of interaction! [In reply to] Can't Post

Thank you so much for doing this for us Guillermo! I am very happy that you are so generous toward all of us lot of very devoted and anxious fans! I hope you do find the time in your busy schedule to enjoy the Christmas Holidays with your familly!

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Dec 11 2009, 11:57am

Post #24 of 66 (5547 views)
You, busy? Nahhh! ;-P [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks so much for taking the time to stop by for an update, and to reassure about the yellow light/green light thing. I'm also very intrigued about the Dwarven artifacts - not to mention Smaug!

Looking forward to the day when pictures start coming out....

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Dec 11 2009, 12:07pm

Post #25 of 66 (5728 views)
Thank you! [In reply to] Can't Post

... I'm still smiling. Good luck with all your projects and Happy Christmas!

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