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Magpie
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Oct 5 2009, 6:48pm

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Transportation to and from Airports for RCMH event Can't Post

I looked online some and felt immediately confused. So I thought I'd ask for help in figuring out options for getting to and from the airports to NYC.

And, I think a couple of people have wondered if any of us were arriving and/or departing at similar times for sharing rides or transit experience.

So, to start with, my hub and I are arriving at JFK and departing at LaGuardia.

Is it unreasonable to try to take public transportation to and from either of these airports? We will probably have carry on bags and at least one, if not two full sized pieces of luggage. (and I just found a site that said: "The New York City subways and buses run to JFK for $2.00. If you have large quantities of luggage, you may find it difficult to manage this long trip."

If public transportation is too onerous a procedure to attempt, other suggestions? Is there anything I should be mindful of when using any of these options?

I am finding these sites but would love some opinions from people in the know.
http://gonyc.about.com/...orts/a/getto_jfk.htm
http://www.nysubway.com/airport/jfk.html
http://www.goairlinkshuttle.com/
http://www.ny.com/...on/airports/JFK.html
http://www.nyairportservice.com/

I'm sure there are more but I have to start running my errands.

I'll post a reply that gives my arrival and departure times so we can maybe get some individual threads going for people looking for transit buddies.


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Magpie
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Oct 5 2009, 6:52pm

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Looking for transit buddies? arrive JFK Thur 6:30 - Depart LGA Sun 3:00 [In reply to] Can't Post

If you are arriving JFK around 6:30 on Thursday and would like to explore buddying up for transportation, post a reply.

If you are departing LGA around 3:00 on Sunday, do the same. Although I am not deciding definitely, my current plans are not to try to attend the panels. So I will likely be leaving from the hotel or nearby.


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Garfeimao
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Oct 5 2009, 7:32pm

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4pm on thursday [In reply to] Can't Post

We are arriving into JFK around 4pm on Thursday afternoon, so it looks like we'll not be able to hook up with you. I plan on just taking a Taxi. If you have the address of where you are going, they have taxi stands with a guy in a kiosk, you give him your destination, he gives you the rate as a printout and then you take it to the line and hand it to the driver when it's your turn to go. This way, you don't get the 'let's take a short cut' that doubles your time and money spent, they can't charge anything over what that rate card says.

At least, that's how they do it at EWR, and I don't expect it to be any different at JFK.


The return trip might be a little different, since we'll most likely be hailing a taxi on the street.


The other option is going with Supershuttle or Prime Ticket or some other established shuttle company, but then you end up with intermediate stops along the way.

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Garfeimao
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Oct 5 2009, 7:41pm

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Looks like there is a flat rate [In reply to] Can't Post

Looks like there is a flat rate from JFK into NYC o $45, which is for the car, not per person. So, up to 3 or 4 passengers, can't recall which now, can share the ride. Not bad, but not awesome either.

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weathertop
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Oct 5 2009, 8:01pm

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i'm taking the bus from LGA to Union station in harlem to catch a train [In reply to] Can't Post

the bus rides are like $2.50 and if you transfer to something else (subway) within something like 20 minutes it counts as the same ride. they guy i'm staying with has a bunch of advice for me, i just posed this question to him. i'll post what he says.


weathertop
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Oct 5 2009, 8:15pm

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some info, more later [In reply to] Can't Post

From JFK, there's a number of options. The "Air Train" is a monorail that will take them out to the subway (A line, I believe) which will take them straight into midtown. (actually, "Straight" is slightly misleading--it's a local train, so it hits EVERY stop, and takes more than an hour. But it may still be quicker than a taxi. DEFINITELY cheaper.

Taxi is around $45 from JFK to Grand Central.

I'll get you more details tonight. tons of work now.


entmaiden
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Oct 5 2009, 10:45pm

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If you take public transportation [In reply to] Can't Post

keep your luggage with you at all times, and always be aware of the people around you. There are thieves who concentrate on the airports in New York because they know there are a lot of first-time visitors who will be distracted by handling the luggage, finding the subway, etc. You will most likely be fine, but just raise your awareness a notch or two.

The same is true for anyone who takes a shuttle or a taxi. The risk that someone will grab your stuff is reduced, but it's still there.

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`Are these magic cloaks? ' asked Pippin, looking at them with wonder.

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Magpie
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Oct 5 2009, 11:06pm

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thanks. good advice // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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Radhruin
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Oct 6 2009, 4:53am

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On advice from a relative, [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm planning on taking the subway from/to JFK, via the E line. There is some sort of shuttle service that goes from the airport north to the E line. I was told that at the time of day I'll be using it (Friday 3pm-ish and Sunday 2pm-ish) it is a definite cheaper way to go, and possibly faster than a taxi.

Garfeimao mentioned something about using the subway, but mentioned the A line which seems out of the way, at least on the transit map: http://www.mta.info/nyct/maps/submap.htm so I'm going north for the E line. :) But I'm no expert.

Not sure about LaGuardia. Seems that with the luggage you might have, a taxi would be more convenient though.

I'll post my times here too, in case there are people arriving at the same time as I am to share a taxi, although, if other's flights are not very close to mine, I'm going to opt for the subway as opposed to waiting around for other flights that may be delayed, etc...

Received your email, thanks. I'll reply to that separately.

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Radhruin
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Oct 6 2009, 5:02am

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Transit buddies? My itinerary: Arrive JFK Fri 2:00pm-Depart JFK Sun 5:40pm [In reply to] Can't Post

As Magpie posted above, if you have similar flights, let me know. As of now, I'm planning on taking the subway, but am open to something else if there are others with similar flights.

"Too many times we've been postally pipped
We've loaded the saddles, the mickeys are slipped
We're swapping the turf for the sand and the surf and the sin
'Cause the fix, the fix is in..."

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deej
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Oct 6 2009, 12:52pm

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Arriving at LaGuardia 5:05 pm on Thursday; flying out Monday at 1:00pm // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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weathertop
Lorien


Oct 6 2009, 1:46pm

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i can't believe i didn't think of this yesterday [In reply to] Can't Post

but, did anyone call the hotel to see if they offer shuttle service? When i lived in houston most of the big hotels had a shuttle service to/from the hotel


Altaira
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Oct 6 2009, 1:50pm

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Options to/from Newark [In reply to] Can't Post

BG and I are flying in and out of Newark, NJ.

The last time we did this we took the Liberty Airport Express bus which is only $15 one way and $25 round trip. It's a nice, big, tour-type bus and the driver will put your luggage under the bus for you. It stops at the Port Authority bus station in mid-town and from there, I'd advise catching a taxi to the Park Central hotel (56th & 7th) as it would be a long walk with luggage. You can buy your tickets online so you don't have to mess with finding kiosks, etc. at the airport.

I've also taken the train from Newark airport to Penn Station in Manhattan. There's a ticket machine in the airport. You catch the Airtrain from the airport to the Amtrak train at Newark's Penn Station which takes you to Manhattan's Penn Station. It's aslo about $15 each way. Again, taxi it to the hotel as it's much too far to walk.

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entmaiden
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Oct 6 2009, 2:52pm

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Not that common in NY [In reply to] Can't Post

Especially shuttles to Manhattan. It's just way too expensive to have a shuttle to and from one hotel.

Each cloak was fastened about the neck with a brooch like a green leaf veined with silver.

`Are these magic cloaks? ' asked Pippin, looking at them with wonder.

`I do not know what you mean by that,' answered the leader of the Elves.



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weathertop
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Oct 6 2009, 3:21pm

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they do offer a service [In reply to] Can't Post

looked it up and found they do, tho not sure its any cheaper.

but if you're looking to group up and split costs anyway...


entmaiden
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Oct 6 2009, 3:50pm

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I think that's a car service [In reply to] Can't Post

but if you can get 4 people, it might save money. It's about the same price as a taxi, which can also be shared.

Each cloak was fastened about the neck with a brooch like a green leaf veined with silver.

`Are these magic cloaks? ' asked Pippin, looking at them with wonder.

`I do not know what you mean by that,' answered the leader of the Elves.



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ElanorTX
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Oct 6 2009, 4:34pm

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from LGA, our local resident says taxi to PC is easier [In reply to] Can't Post

apparently you just can't get there from here, without spending an extra hour and switching routes

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Oct 6 2009, 6:35pm

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JFK: arrive thurs 3:21, depart Mon 9am [In reply to] Can't Post

A friend is meeting me at JFK on Thursday and we're taking the subway to the hotel, if anyone would like to join us. She's local and I'm sure she wouldn't mind helping others get to the host hotel too. I only have one carry-on, so I am still debating Monday morning taxi or subway. If anyone else is leaving JFK at the same time, I would love to share a cab. Otherwise, I may beg the same friend to help me figure out the subway back to JFK.
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Magpie
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Oct 6 2009, 9:15pm

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okay, good info. thanks // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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maegwen
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Oct 7 2009, 3:21am

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Airtran operates out of JFK, too [In reply to] Can't Post

It can take you to LIRR (train) direct to Penn Station. Take AirTran to the Jamaica Station Route... you can also pick up the E train there, yes, but I'd avoid the subway if you have a lot of luggage


Radhruin
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Oct 7 2009, 5:24am

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What is a lot of luggage? [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm planning on taking the E line, from advice from a relative. But WHAT is a lot of luggage? I will have a backpack and a suitcase with wheels that could possibly be carry-on, but I'll probably check it. Is that "a lot of luggage".

"Too many times we've been postally pipped
We've loaded the saddles, the mickeys are slipped
We're swapping the turf for the sand and the surf and the sin
'Cause the fix, the fix is in..."

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Garfeimao
Rohan


Oct 7 2009, 6:18am

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depends on the time you are on the train [In reply to] Can't Post

A lot of luggage is bad if it's rush hour on the trains because they get crowded, very crowded. I suppose what you are comfortable dragging around for up to a half mile, cause you never know how far apart the transfers between trains is, is how you determine a lot of luggage or not.

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Garfeimao
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Oct 7 2009, 6:24am

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Oooh, we might join you on Thursday [In reply to] Can't Post

Our flight is scheduled to arrive at JFK on Thursday at 3:59pm, so if you are up to waiting for us, we could hook up. Of course, any little delay on our flight might make it tough on you. I know that tomorrow there will be rain that is going to cause up to 2 hour delays, but Thursday is supposed to be clear and nice, with no delays.

Let me know what you think, it would be myself and Suvi (Ainu Laire) coming in on Virgin America from LAX.

Peace, Love and Rock & Roll,


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maegwen
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Oct 7 2009, 12:54pm

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A lot of luggage is... (plus, some sense of what subway with luggage is like) [In reply to] Can't Post

anything you feel would take up most of your hands and leave you unable to a) maneuver quickly, b) be aware of it at all times, c) not swat someone with it.

The AirTrain/LIRR may be a bit more and is also often crowded, but you have a shorter, more direct trip to NYC, you only have to find a place for your bags ONCE (rather shifting at every one of the E trains 22 stops)

A bit about the subway:

There aren't any escalators in the subway system (or, at least very few), so you'll be hauling bags up and down platforms. The trains are commuter trains, so even at the lightest point of the day you'll be traveling for a fair while possibly without a seat.

The E train is 22 stops from Jamaica Station to 34th Street. It runs from Queens through heart of Manhattan. It's about a 45-50 minute trip.

If you have a backpack, unless the train is very lightly packed, you'll have to take it off or hit everyone in the face as the train jostles. You'll then have no hands free to hold your bags AND hold on to a grip.

You'll need a "grip" hand because It's most likely you'll have to stand because you can't stash your bags on the floor near the door and you'll only be able to keep them at your seat with you if there isn't a lot of people.



If you took the Long Island Rail Road (LIRR) express train from Jamaica station: Taking the AirTrain to Jamaica station is about ten minutes, and the ride from Jamaica Station is about 15 minutes. It costs twice as much ($8 LIRR, $5 AirTrain), but you get escalators, elevators, easy accessible platforms, and a reasonable shot at a seat. And no stops -- it goes straight to Penn Station.

Here's a link to some Yelp reviews:
http://www.yelp.com/biz/lirr-to-jamaica-station-to-jfk-new-york

I LOVE the subway and recommend it at any point in your trip. Just not getting from the airport, if you can help it. :)


maegwen
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Oct 7 2009, 1:03pm

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A resident's view of subway travel to-and-from JFK [In reply to] Can't Post

I love the NYC subway and recommend it for any portion of your stay in NYC, EXCEPT for travel to and from the airport.

There is the better alternative of the AirTrain>LIRR>Penn Station which will save you time and a lot of grief. Here are my reasons for not recommending the subway:

You will be traveling with luggage. Anything more than a simple carry-on is going to cause you problems. More luggage than that will most likely take up both your hands and leave you unable to a) maneuver quickly, b) be aware of it at all times, c) not swat someone with it, d) unlikely, but protect yourself (again, very very very very unlikely, but you never know)

-- There aren't any escalators in the subway system (or, at least very few), so you'll be hauling bags up and down platforms.

-- The E train is 22 stops from Jamaica Station to 34th Street. It runs from Queens through heart of Manhattan. It's about a 45-50 minute trip.

-- If you have a backpack, unless the train is very lightly packed, you'll have to take it off or hit everyone in the face as the train jostles. You'll then have no hands free to hold your bags AND hold on to a grip.

-- You'll need a "grip" hand because It's most likely you'll have to stand because you can't stash your bags on the floor near the door. You'll only be able to keep them at your seat with you if there isn't a lot of people. But it's considered rude, if you can believe there is a concept of "rude" behavior on an NYC subway :)

-- The trains are commuter trains, so even at the lightest point of the day it's possible you'll be traveling for a fair while without a seat and being jostled by other people.

Taking the AirTrain to Jamaica station is about ten minutes, and the ride from Jamaica Station on the LIRR (Long Island Rail Road) express is about 15-20 minutes. It costs twice as much ($8 LIRR, $5 AirTrain), but you get escalators, elevators, easy accessible platforms.


The AirTrain/LIRR may cost a bit more and is also often crowded, but you have a shorter, more direct trip to NYC, you only have to find a place for your bags ONCE (rather shifting at every one of the E train's 22 stops), and a reasonable shot at a seat.

Here's a link to some Yelp reviews:
http://www.yelp.com/biz/lirr-to-jamaica-station-to-jfk-new-york

I LOVE the subway and recommend it at any point in your trip. Just not getting from the airport, if you can help it. :)

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