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****FOTR EE APPENDICES DISCUSSION: A Day In the Life of a Hobbit****

Alcarcalime
Tol Eressea


Sep 13 2009, 11:16am

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I am sorry this is such a long post, but I couldn't find any point at which to break it up.

Put in Disk 4 of FOTR EE. Choose Filming The Fellowship of the Ring, then A Day in the Life of a Hobbit.
Peter Jackson said he was glad he didn’t have to play a Hobbit in the movie because they had a long day. Of course, we have seen throughout these Appendices that the director had a pretty long day himself!

Elijah Wood starts talking about becoming a Hobbit. He said they got up between 4:30 and 5:00 a.m. when they needed to wear their feet. They really liked the days when they didn’t have to wear the feet because they had a later call and got to sleep in a bit.

In the segment, Elijah says the early call did give him a chance to see the beauty of a New Zealand morning.



The first thing they had done was to have the Hobbit feet glued on their feet. They evidently put the trousers to the costumes on, because they are wearing them for the foot-gluing. Elijah says it took about an hour and a half of standing to get the feet glued on and the feet blended onto their skin with makeup. They wanted to sit down, but weren’t allowed to. Peter said their ankles would be bent wrong and the feet wouldn’t look natural.



Wouldn’t that paint brush tickle their feet? And what did those feet feel like after sweating in them for a hot summer day?



How tired your legs would get standing in one place for over an hour!

Elijah said he would bring a big book of CDs to play while they were in the makeup bus. As an older person who doesn’t necessarily appreciate the music of today, I don’t think I would have enjoyed being in the bus with the boys!



Next they would get their makeup, wigs and ears put on. Elijah said that sometimes they would read, and sometimes they would talk, and sometimes they would listen to music.



They would quite often get re-writes of the script to study before their scenes.



After makeup, they would be able to get some breakfast. If they didn’t have time, breakfast would be brought to them to eat while being made up.



After they were made up, they would get on the rest of their costumes. In this segment, you can see they are wearing street clothes for shirts and their costume trousers. One of OhioHobbit’s and my favorite lines in the Appendices is when Elijah comes out of the makeup trailer and says he has to go get into his costume and, "Got my feet, got my wig, got my ears, got my dirt." If we need to take something with us, we say, "Got my dirt!"

They hurry to get on set when they are required, but it can end up being hurry up and wait! If something goes wrong with the equipment, everything comes to a grinding halt until it is back up and running. The actors get to wait. My brother-in-law did some extra work for Hollywood movies. He loved it because it was mostly waiting around and getting to eat!



They get a break for lunch. It looks like quite a crowd for the meal this day!



Billy talked about him and Dom doing little skits for the making-of cameras. There are a few of these little vignettes throughout the Appendices.



Peter said the Hobbits felt the worst thing he could do was to require that they wear the feet, but then not shoot angles that showed them. According to Sean Astin, out of 274 days of shooting there were 50 days when the feet didn’t show.



The Hobbits would work on their scenes. Here Peter is telling the Hobbits what he wants.



They would work with the scale doubles to make the differences as small as possible. (It never worked for me – I can always tell the scale doubles.)



They had to learn new techniques. Evidently Elijah hadn’t worked on blue screen before. I’ll bet he was an old pro by the time he finished these movies!



They had scenes to shoot.



After a long day of waiting, eating, and working, they would wrap about 8:00 p.m. According to Billy Boyd, they would take off their costumes, spend about 40 minutes getting makeup and wigs off, and then spend another hour getting the feet taken off.



But Billy really looks like he is enjoying having his feet washed!



"That’s a typical day in the life of a Hobbit on Lord of the Ring!" – Sean Astin



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batik
Tol Eressea


Sep 14 2009, 1:25am

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I recently watched about half of this one... [In reply to] Can't Post

...probably up until the lunch break bit or so.
Good thing these guys were on the right side of *young*! Up before the crack of doom, ummm dawn, and staying up until who knows when. Crazy
I can only imagine the feet! Ew! Whoever is going thru the process in your second pic looks a bit bruised so I'm guessing that JRD was not the only one who suffered for the sake of *art*. Although likely the hobbits were on the shorter end of the time scale when it came to be outfitted for the day when compared with those orc folk.
Well, now, I must have been 'out to lunch' during Billy and Dom's part 'cos I don't remember any of that but do recall Sean's 50-count regarding non-necessary putting-on-of-feet comment and Elijah's remarks about blue screen work. I put in Disc 1 a bit after viewing this part of the appendices to see if I could *catch* anything that gave away how the scene in Bag End with Gandalf was shot. Nope...not really. I rarely catch the scale doubles--certainly not in the scene where Frodo leaps in Gandalf's wagon. I think some it's more apparent in some of the riding scenes and possibly there is no real *body* in some of those. Never realized that Billy and Dom were on their knees during the departing from Rivendell scene. Happy to be blissfully unaware!


Alcarcalime
Tol Eressea


Sep 14 2009, 12:11pm

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Those feet do look a bit abused! I'll bet walking around in the rocky places with those feet on wasn't easy.

I always saw the scale doubles. I think it's because of my way of recognizing people. I am extremely near-sighted. When I was in gym class, I didn't wear my glasses and I learned to recognize people by how they moved. So, since the scale doubles move differently from the hero actors, they stand out for me. When I saw Kiran Shah in The Dark Crystal, it was because I recognized him walking.

It's nice, though, that even if this movie was physically hard to make, the actors felt it was worth it.

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Elven
Valinor


Sep 14 2009, 1:45pm

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Extraodinary stuff ... [In reply to] Can't Post

when you think about what they had to do and what was done to get this movie made - and they did it!
Its a long haul to stand for an hour - let alone everyday to have the prosthetics applied and re-applied and hair and make-up done - I bet there were days where the will needed to be strong to get out of bed knowing what was in store for them.
I take my hat off to them all.
.. and to all the artists who were there to do the jobs as well - what a team.

I loved the way Sean had the numbers there for the foot scenes - that was funny Laugh
and the view as Elijah walks out to go to the trailer ... a breathtaking morning indeed!

Thankyou Alcarcalime for a wonderful post - it was great!
Cheers
Elven x


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Alcarcalime
Tol Eressea


Sep 14 2009, 3:17pm

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I agree! [In reply to] Can't Post

It certainly shows in these appendices that everyone who worked on these movies worked long and hard to get it done. I'll bet it made them feel good to see how appreciated these movies are.

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Lossefalme
Gondor


Sep 16 2009, 12:51am

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I really am going to have to find the time to treat myself to these!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't want to be rushed, though, so it's going to be awhile yet. I'm really enjoying these posts, though. Thank you!

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Aragorn threw back his cloak. The elven-sheath glittered as he grasped it, and the bright blade of Andúril shone like a sudden flame as he swept it out. “Elendil!” he cried. “I am Aragorn son of Arathorn, and am called Elessar, the Elfstone, Dúnadan, the heir of Isildur Elendil’s son of Gondor. Here is the Sword that was Broken and is forged again! Will you aid me or thwart me? Choose swiftly!” TTT, Book III, Chapter 2
And Éomer answered: “Since the day when you rose before me out of the green grass of the downs I have loved you, and that love shall not fail.” RotK, Book VI, Chapter 5


Alcarcalime
Tol Eressea


Sep 16 2009, 2:30am

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Yes, Yes, Yes! [In reply to] Can't Post

What we did was watch the play-all feature practically the day we got the dvds. Then to enjoy them, we would watch one segment at a time. It was easier to manage and it had the added benefit of taking a looong time to see it all!!! Smile

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Zmulady
Rohan


Sep 16 2009, 6:21pm

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the guys dressed as Hobbits using the f-word. (This happens at a break in filming at Bilbo's party) Billy, Dom and Elijah all talking bad behind each other's back. I'm not sure what that was all about.

Also, Billy talks about eating porridge. He got everyone to eat healthy. What is pouridge? I don't recall Goldilocks saying what exactly porridge is. It looked like a bowl of oatmeal with nuts and dried fruit.?



Alcarcalime
Tol Eressea


Sep 16 2009, 7:26pm

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OhioHobbit and I don't understand why they used language like that since they knew they were being filmed. I guess that is how they always talk.

Porridge was always a cooked grain food -- I thought it was mostly oatmeal. The porridge that Billy is eating is more like a granola-type cold cereal. Maybe the name has been reassigned in today's world.

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Dwana
The Shire

Sep 17 2009, 3:19am

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I had 3 20 year old (boys) young men spend a lot of time at my house this summer, and that's how they talk. They also continuously insult each other. It's almost an expression of affection. I've heard enough "your mama" and "your so gay that..." jokes to last me a lifetime. :) I actually enjoyed it believe it or not.


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Sep 18 2009, 9:06am

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*geeky applause* I love this one!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

GREAT CAPS, Alcarcalime! Oh my... this one always makes me so happy. I love spending the day with our hobbits and seeing what it was like for them. I remember when this was on tv as a special! I was drooling and laughing and my ears were ringing from my heart pounding!

Now when I watch this, I find myself looking all over the screen to see the other players eating around them in their costumes, listening to the chatter, Elijah's awe of the NZ sunrises... and the land itself. It's all good!

Seeing Peter and the hobbits sitting on the bench... Oh geez, I can't say enough!

*runs to dvd player*



sample

"There is more in you of good than you know, child of the kindly West."
~Hug like a hobbit!~ "In my heaven..."

I really need these new films to take me back to, and not re-introduce me to, that magical world.



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Alcarcalime
Tol Eressea


Sep 18 2009, 12:45pm

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This is a segment I have watched a lot, too. [In reply to] Can't Post

We also like to watch to see what is going on in the background.

We never knew this was on TV as a special. Oh, well, that's what we get for living in the back of the beyond!

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