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Sunflower
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Aug 31 2009, 7:32am
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Hey, I'm not arguing about the advent of new technology per se--I'm not a Luddite, time goes on.
But my argument is this: give me something that makes investment in the new technology worthy, and make it at an affordable and accessible price. There's a huge difference between LOTR making the studios' dream of DVD technology become a hit with the masses, and me not minding plonking down en extra $50 for the EE's each year, and a $150-200 or however much a DVD player cost back in the day--and having to plonk down a couple *thousand* on a new maga-screen HDTV for that "ultimate 3D experience"? If easy credit is no longer a given in this global financial climate, and with real income for millions in the US and Europe shrinking year by year, where do they expect "consumers" to have that money? The free and easy days of reckless spending of the past 15 yrs are gone, "green shoots" or not. People are being pickier about venturing to the theater--they'll only go to see what has great WOM. And the mioves that have great WOM are what will go into the HDTV. "Content" sells hardware--not the other way around. WHY can't the studios learn this??
Studios are hoping that Avatar will be to HDTV and Blu-Ray and 3D what LOTR was to DVD's. We shall see. But I have a feeling that it might be The Hobbit that would do that...IF people wanted it to.
And the verdict of this site is an unequivocal we don't want it to. At least not now--not until the theatrical releases are over with.
And for good reason.
If this is what it would take, then I don't want it to. If PJ and crew, and Del Toro and crew, were to approach their Art--esp The Hobbit--like this push for Avatar, there's no way I'd see TH in the theater. Sorry. Excuse me for being pretentious, but I DO want to see the total dedication to their art these artists have come first.
Sorry for seeming like a grouch..it's just that I'm comparing what Cameron is doing with the unique and lovely thing we have going here...thst said, I am going to see Avatar..once. Whther or not I see it twice is up to the story and characters. If I cry, I'll see it again. Simple as that...
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Donry
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Aug 31 2009, 3:54pm
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which means the Hobbit in 3-D is a dead issue to me.
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shadowdog
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Aug 31 2009, 4:32pm
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Didn't look that impressive to me
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And how will that enhance a film on a 2D screen?
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Theodred
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Aug 31 2009, 8:51pm
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Maybe it will also be possible, that with this technique, you can actually be a part of the movie, as it's in the room you're in, and not on a flat screen. That will be real 3D, won't it? And it's also possible with this technique to interact with it, so your actions could change the outcome of the movie. I'd love to see the first movie that will use this technique in the (near) future. It's reminding me of the holodeck in Star Trek. Besides, it's only a part of possible future 3D technology, there can also be other new technologies that are now or in the (near) future in development imo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLCUzA6KMEw
http://www.ladyofrohan.com/funeralsong.wav
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weathertop
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Aug 31 2009, 9:07pm
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i don't like watching 3D movies...
i've been subjected to this in the past and its predecessor the C4 (which the link doesn't do any justice to). after experiencing this 3D world (the glasses didn't bother me in this - i was too distracted!!), the crap on the screen is, well, flat. 
now can you imagine immersing yourself in ME like this?!!?!?!
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Theodred
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Aug 31 2009, 9:27pm
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That will probably also change in the future,
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but at this point the technology is not available yet that the objects themselves will really be three-dimensional, they're still flat objects projected in a 3d environment, but I guess that will also change in the future. Anyway, there will always be some illusion and imagination involved when watching a movie, as it's all just fantasy, or do you believe what you see on the screen is real? 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLCUzA6KMEw
http://www.ladyofrohan.com/funeralsong.wav
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Ataahua
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Aug 31 2009, 9:28pm
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Wow, flashback to Fahrenheit 451.
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Maybe it will also be possible, that with this technique, you can actually be a part of the movie, as it's in the room you're in, and not on a flat screen.
I remembered the scene with the wife immersed in her favourite TV show by having a scripted part from her own interactive living room. Mildly freaky ... although I love it when real life catches up with scifi. 
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Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
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Sep 1 2009, 4:00am
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And it's also possible with this technique to interact with it, so your actions could change the outcome of the movie. That's not a movie. That's a game. IMO.
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Ainu Laire
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Sep 1 2009, 9:19am
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Hopefully I'll be alive for it, if it ever comes around to movies.
Amazing how fast technology has been moving this last century- the art of film making just shows a snippet of it.
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Theodred
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Sep 1 2009, 9:06pm
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I have to disagree with you I'm afraid.
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And it's also possible with this technique to interact with it, so your actions could change the outcome of the movie. That's not a movie. That's a game. IMO.
A game is something you're playing the whole time, and that's not the case with a movie. With a movie, there has to be a story that you could watch and experience in 3d in the room you're in, and not on a flat screen, but maybe at certain moments you could also participate by interacting with the movie, so you're not only a spectator anymore, but someone who will actually play a role in the movie, maybe something like this, making choices, but WITH augmented reality
Your choices will have a large influence in how the movie will develop, so you could experience the same movie several times. Wouldn't that be fun... I really don't know if this will ever actually happen, but if it does, that would be very cool imo and it would change the entire process of moviemaking. This all came up in my mind after watching that augmented reality video. Does anyone think this could become reality in the future?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLCUzA6KMEw
http://www.ladyofrohan.com/funeralsong.wav
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
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Sep 1 2009, 10:36pm
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To me, a good movie is supposed to have a plot, and a set plot at that. If I can change the plot, then it's no longer a movie to me. And "Wii are not amused!" ;)
We'll just have to disagree. :)
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Alassëa Eruvande
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Sep 4 2009, 2:57pm
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"No 18 minute gap in teh tape. No blue dress with 3-D samples on it."
Priceless!
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