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Altaira
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Aug 8 2009, 5:36pm

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Welcome to everyone going, or thinking of going, to the Radio City FOTR concert!

The purpose of this post is to provide one place to go for general Radio City information and updates, (since the original discussion thread is far too big now to be able to easily find all the pertinent information). The information below is up-to-date as the date of this post (August 8). Future updates (after general clean-up this weekend) will be in red font for at least a few days, and the “Current as of” date will change.

In addition to this post, be sure to check the official concert site for updates too, and continue general discussion in the sticky thread deej started. I guarantee this post will go through several revisions in the next few days as I find more things to add, so check it often and be sure to PM me with any ideas and recommendations.

Official Concert Site & News

Offical Site: www.theradiocitylotrconcert.com

Official site Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/...otrconcert/848340526
Official site Twitter: http://twitter.com/RadioCityLOTR
Official site Myspace: http://www.myspace.com/...adiocitylotrconcerts

TORn Homepage: http://www.theonering.net/torwp/
TORn Twitter: https://twitter.com/theoneringnet


Recap of Weekend Activities (updated 10/05/09 for Saturday sightseeing update & various other items)

A general agenda of events appears below. Exact times will be added as plans are firmed up.



Thursday, October 8
6:00 p.m. - New York Comic Con Radio City reception and 1-yr countdown party to NYCC 2011. Free bowling and more! Bowlmor Lanes, 110 University Place.
11:30 p.m. - Beecake concert, Joe's Pub, $25 (425 Lafayette St., NY, NY). Purchase online, or call (212) 967-7555.

Friday, October 9
Doug Adams book signing of his new book: "The Music of the Lord of the Rings Movies." (book not ready yet - no signing this weekend)
7:30 p.m. - FOTR Concert for Friday concert-goers with special appearances by Howard Shore and Billy Boyd (lucky Friday night concert-goers)!
7:00 - 10:00 - TORn & friends gathering/mixer.
Three hours with all-you-can-eat appetizers and top-shelf open bar throughout. Trivia and more! Connolly's Pub, 121 W. 45th St. (1/2 S. of the Park Central hotel).

Advanced tickets accepted until tomorrow (Tues, 10/6 only): Adults - $52, Children under 16 - $19; At the door tickets (cash only): Adults - $57, children under 16 - $24
Send Paypal payments to
RCMHmixer@gmail.com. Be sure to include a message regarding who, and how many, you're paying for. To pay by check, PM Altaira to make arrangements.


10:30 - ?? TORn & Avari (alumni) reunion - Connolly's, after the mixer.


Saturday, October 10
(daytime) - Sightseeing together. Three 'casually organized' options:

Ground Zero - (time TBA, so far 'noonish')

Circle Line boat tour (afternoon after Ground Zero moot)

Top of the Rock, Central Park tour with Altaira and BG and (free) licensed NYC tour guide (meet at Park Central hotel lobby at 10:00 a.m. or Top of the Rock main entrance (on 50th St. between 5th & 6th ave.) at 10:30 a.m. Top of the Rock is $21.00 for adults, Children 6-12 $14.00, Seniors $19.00.
Central Park is free. We'll probably get there around noon and catch lunch around 1:00.
If you'd like to skip Top of the Rock and meet us in Central Park, PM Altaira for her cell no. or email her at altaira @ theonering . net

7:30 p.m. - FOTR Concert for Saturday concert-goers
11:59 p.m. - Beecake concert, Joe's Pub, $25 (425 Lafayette St., NY, NY). Purchase online now, or call (212) 967-7555.

Sunday, October 11
10:00 a.m. - 2:00 p.m. Speakers & Presentations (TORn Hobbit update, David Salo, Colleen Doran, our own greendragon with Corey Olsen, the premier of Elizabeth Cotnoir's Journey's End and Doug Adams and Howard Shore discuss the upcoming book) - Angel Orensantz Foundation, 172 Norfolk St.

Oct. 5 - Nov. 19 (9:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Oct 9, 10, 11) - “The Beginnings of a Masterpiece: Original Manuscripts from The Fellowship of the Ring ” exhibit at Fordham University's Lincoln Center campus. Registration is now open! Follow this link to marquette.edu to sign up! Note: so far it seems TORnsibs are converging on mid-day (11-Noon) shows on Friday and Saturday. FYI, Matt Blessing, curator of the Tolkien archives at Marquette, will be guiding tours on Sat and Sun. Friday tours will be self-guided).
Per the announcement posted on TORn's Home Page:
“The Beginnings of a Masterpiece” is free and open to the public on October 9-11, with small group tours at the top of the each hour between 9:00 a.m and 2:00 p.m. Group size will be limited to 10 individuals. Special access rules apply for off-campus guests after October 11th. Please visit Fordham Libraries website at
www.library.fordham.edu after September 15th to learn more about viewing the exhibit. The Quinn Library is located on the first floor of the Lowenstein Building at 113 West 60th Street.

Ongoing: Partnering with TORn and CAMI, New York Comic Con (NYCC) will be hosting several contests and giveaways before and during the weekend. Visit this link to learn more!

Concert & Tickets (current as of 8/8/09)

There will be two concerts: one on Friday night, October 9, and one on Saturday night, October 10 (most of the board members are going to the Saturday night concert – see “Attendees” below)

Concert: October 9 & 10, 7:30 p.m., Radio City Music Hall, 1260 6th Avenue, New York, NY 10020, NY, NY

Tickets: Ticket prices are $54.00 US to $150.00 US (plus a 'convenience charge of about $11.00) depending on where you sit. Tickets are still available for both nights. Tickets can be purchased on the Radio City Website or by calling 212-307-7171. The automated phone site will try to pre-select tickets for you too. If you don't answer the automated questions, you'll finally get to a live person, so persevere.

General Seating Chart: http://www.radiocity.com/seating/index.html
Detailed Seating Chart: http://www.radiocity.com/...al/radio_seating.pdf (also see "attendees" below)


Accommodations (updated 9/13/09 for the fact that the special concert rate at the Park Central is now sold out)

“Official” Radio City Hotel: The Park Central Hotel, 870 7th Ave, New York, NY, NY

Special Radio City Concert rates: (Note: these rates are now sold out). Visit sites like Travelocity, Orbitz, Expedia, hotels.com, etc. to research other options. Hint: once you've found Mid-town Manhattan hotels, sort by price, paying attention to 'star rankings' (i.e., a one star-rated hotel is probably cheap for a reason).
Single/Double occupancy:$179 (about $208 w/tax)
Three adults to a room: $204 (about $237 w/tax)
Four adults to a room: $229 (about $266 w/tax)

Roomates: If you're interested in sharing a room with someone, there's a sub-thread here on the Moots board to help find like-minded Hobbits.
Attendees: (updated 10/04/09)

Several people have been keeping informal lists of message board attendees. PM them if you'd like to be added! The links will be updated as their updates occur:

Smeagirl/Girllum has been keeping a list of attendees

Grammaboodawg has been 'mapping' the seating location of anyone who lets her know where they're sitting (updated 10/04/09)

In addition, there are a number of TORn message board alumni, at least 10 members of Barliman's Chatroom and around 10 other TORn staffers and/or folks who are Howard Shore/Doug Adams fans who don't frequent the message boards.

Other Information and Links: (current as of 8/8/09)

Doug Adams' blog: http://themusicofthelordoftheringsfilms.blogspot.com/

From a recent entry: "once you plant your flag in Middle-earth, it's always your home. It claims you.." Doug is a kindred spirit, a wonderful person and has been an honored guest at ORC conventions. Doug's book has gone to press and will be available soon. Plus, he'll be doing at least one book signing the weekend of the concerts!

Other Activities related to the Radio City Concert:



Transportation to/from local airports: (please refer to Magpie's thread here)

20% off coupon for NYC attractions





Koru: Maori symbol representing a fern frond as it opens. The koru reaches towards the light, striving for perfection, encouraging new, positive beginnings.



"Life can't be all work and no TORn" -- jflower

"I take a moment to fervently hope that the camaradarie and just plain old fun I found at TORn will never end" -- LOTR_nutcase



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Altaira
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Sep 2 2009, 3:37am

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Please take the poll on the Friday night TORn & Friends bash! [In reply to] Can't Post

I just posted a poll (below on this board) to see how many people plan to join us for a fab TORn & Friends get-together Friday night in Manhattan. Let us know if you can join us! Smile

Get to the poll here.


Koru: Maori symbol representing a fern frond as it opens. The koru reaches towards the light, striving for perfection, encouraging new, positive beginnings.



"Life can't be all work and no TORn" -- jflower

"I take a moment to fervently hope that the camaradarie and just plain old fun I found at TORn will never end" -- LOTR_nutcase



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Altaira
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Sep 14 2009, 3:57am

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updated 9/13 for link to Tolkien Exhibit resevations, contests and giveaways and other hotel options!// [In reply to] Can't Post

SmileCool


Koru: Maori symbol representing a fern frond as it opens. The koru reaches towards the light, striving for perfection, encouraging new, positive beginnings.



"Life can't be all work and no TORn" -- jflower

"I take a moment to fervently hope that the camaradarie and just plain old fun I found at TORn will never end" -- LOTR_nutcase



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Jazmine
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Sep 15 2009, 12:20pm

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A question about reserving tour slots [In reply to] Can't Post

Just wondering, I filled in the reservation thingy, but it didn't mention a plus one anywhere. Should I do it again separately for Neil, and if so, what if he got a different time to me, seeing as we had to fill in two slots?

Anyone else tried doing it for more than one person?


Magpie
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Sep 15 2009, 12:57pm

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If your talking about the manuscript exhibit [In reply to] Can't Post

(and surely you must)

It says right on the registration form that you have to make a request for every person going. So, you'd have to do it separately for your plus one.
A separate registration form must be submitted for each registrant.
I would guess that you just have to take your chances and go separately if that happened. Or maybe switch with someone you found that had one your times. The longer you wait, the harder it will be to get a slot in the same time.


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Jazmine
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Sep 15 2009, 6:33pm

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Oops [In reply to] Can't Post

I clearly wasn't paying attention when I registered earlier! I was in a hurry, as I was at work, (on my lunchbreak of course!) Tongue


Tamara
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Sep 15 2009, 7:41pm

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Doug Adams still Friday? [In reply to] Can't Post

Altaira,
Is Doug Adams still Friday? I saw on his website that he said something about 10-2 on Sunday. Additional or moved?
---Tamara

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Magpie
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Sep 15 2009, 10:48pm

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10-2 on Sunday are the panel presentations [In reply to] Can't Post

At the moment, we only know two presenters but more will be announced and I would expect Doug could be one of them. This is not the book signing though. He, up to this moment, has not announced the book signing time.

However, about two hours ago, he just tweeted:
Radio City schedule is in. Announcement coming soon.

So, I'd watch his blog for an announcement.


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Magpie
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Sep 15 2009, 10:49pm

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lol [In reply to] Can't Post

As someone who tries to format text so people see the important stuff, I'm sunk if you can't see the big red bold font! :P

But then, posting at work can put the rush on everything.


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ElanorTX
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Sep 16 2009, 2:42am

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possible panelists? [In reply to] Can't Post

My travelling companion and I are trying to schedule the Fordham exhibit Sat or Sun, David Salo, and still make a 1:30 pm Sun flight from LGA scheduled before the panel time was switched. Any guidance? A Beecake ticket for Saturday will ride on the order of appearance Sunday.

"I shall not wholly fail if anything can still grow fair in days to come."


Magpie
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Sep 16 2009, 3:02am

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I'm not entirely sure what you're asking me [In reply to] Can't Post

If you're wondering what I know about Sunday, here's what I can tell you.

A few days ago, Doug posted the news that the panels had been moved from Saturday to Sunday (I think TORn posted that news first). When he did that, I posted this on his blog:
Not that the world revolves around me... but I hope the best of the bunch is first in the day. Unless I can change flights, I can't stay past noon.

And he responded:
And I certainly wouldn't attempt to dictate your schedule or plans!... But it currently looks like the "big" events, such as they are, will be at the end of the schedule. I'm sorry I can't say more. In fact, I really wasn't supposed to say that. :)

So. I don't know who or what will be the 'big' event. I only know that I can't be there unless I'm willing to pay a hefty fee to the airlines. I can't, in good conscious, do that to our budget. So, this is where I suck it up and play the big girl and try not to be too disappointed.

As I said, I expect announcements soon. Like, real soon. I'm watching Doug's blog a little more closely than usual although news has erupted here as quickly as it has at his blog. So Altaira might beat him to the punch if something clicks into place.


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ElanorTX
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Sep 16 2009, 10:34am

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what I was trying to ask [In reply to] Can't Post

is
1) who are the confirmed panelists?

2) what is their order of appearance?

I too cannot change my ticket and will be a big girl. However, if the panel schedule is unworkable for me, then I might try Fordham at 9 or 10 am Sun (instead of Sat) and go directly to LGA. And the Fordham places will fill soon, so I'm anxious and eager.

ElanorTX

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Magpie
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Sep 16 2009, 1:38pm

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Well, that I can't answer [In reply to] Can't Post

other than, the biggest is saved for last. And I can't answer because I truly don't know. I'm not being coy.


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Altaira
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Sep 16 2009, 4:02pm

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Doug's book signing and Confirmed Panelists [In reply to] Can't Post

Magpie is correct: no time has officially been announced for Doug's book signing. The last I heard they were planning at least one for Friday. However, I've also been told to 'stay tuned.' Since I haven't had any official updates, I haven't changed that on the schedule yet.

Confirmed panelists according to the official concert site are David Salo and artist Colleen Doran. Our own greendragon and a friend, Corey Olsen, are also going to do a presentation on "The Music of The Hobbit." Aside from that, I can't imagine they wouldn't have Doug do something. Also, at one time John Howe was going to bring some artwork. Finally, I can venture a guess (though I don't know for sure), that the big events at the end might be an appearance by Howard Shore and/or a chat or message from Del Toro.

The Sunday event is scheduled to run from 10:00 to 2:00. They have a lot to fit into four hours! Laugh


Koru: Maori symbol representing a fern frond as it opens. The koru reaches towards the light, striving for perfection, encouraging new, positive beginnings.



"Life can't be all work and no TORn" -- jflower

"I take a moment to fervently hope that the camaradarie and just plain old fun I found at TORn will never end" -- LOTR_nutcase



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Magpie
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Sep 23 2009, 2:28am

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No Book Signing [In reply to] Can't Post

see this: http://themusicofthelordoftheringsfilms.blogspot.com/...ate-autumn-2009.html


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entmaiden
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Sep 23 2009, 3:14am

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Oh, that's too bad [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm sure Doug is gutted, but it will still be a wonderful weekend. I'm hoping he does a book tour, and I'll get to see him when he does the Chicago stores.

Each cloak was fastened about the neck with a brooch like a green leaf veined with silver.

`Are these magic cloaks? ' asked Pippin, looking at them with wonder.

`I do not know what you mean by that,' answered the leader of the Elves.



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Sunflower
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Sep 23 2009, 4:36am

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I'm devestated... [In reply to] Can't Post

I was SO looking forward to having Doug and esp *MR. SHORE* signing my copy...not likely that'll ever happen for me now. I am still frankly puzzled...who would want to sue over this and why? I mean, it hasn't even come out...


Magpie
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Sep 23 2009, 1:05pm

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No one sued [In reply to] Can't Post

There are more issues that are legal in nature than litigation.


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Sunflower
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Sep 27 2009, 10:03pm

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Such as? [In reply to] Can't Post

I am curious....PM me. Of course you don't have to say what is happening in the Doug Adams case..but run by me different ways a "non-suing" issue can happen...types of scenarios....I don't know anything about this stuff!


Magpie
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Sep 28 2009, 12:28am

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Litigation [In reply to] Can't Post

...means: to carry on a legal contest by judicial process

There are lots of legal processes and issues that do not need to involve litigation.

Adoption is a legal issue that does not involve litigation.

My husband saw a lawyer before starting his business with an active partner and an inactive partner. That was a legal matter that did not involve litigation.

Someone might get power of attorney over a family member who becomes incapable of managing their affairs. That's a legal issue that might involve litigation but can also take place without litigation.

One lawyer's site that says is area of practice is 'non-litigation' lists:
  • Special Projects - General contracts, Acquisitions, Mergers, Infrastructure and energy, Joint ventures, Investments, Financing, Consultation.
  • Corporate and Retainer Services - SEC practice, General consultation.
  • Immigration - General consultation and Bureau of Immigration practice.
  • Labor - General consultation, advice and opinions.
  • Intellectual Property - Intellectual property (trademarks, trade names, patents, and copyrights) acquisition, maintenance, and protection
  • Advisory Services – Transactions (accounting valuations, fundraising, bid support/defense, due diligence, economics, buy and sell, modeling and business planning, private equity and privatization, project financing, structuring, tax valuations, etc…); Business solutions (governance risk and compliance, financial effectiveness, etc…); Crisis management (dispute analysis and investigation).


I'm sure that Voronwe could answer this question way better than I. "What sort of legal matter would not involve litigation?"


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Sep 30 2009, 3:05am

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FRIDAY NIGHT ANNOUNCEMENT: SWAP TABLE AT THE MIX-n-MINGLE PARTY [In reply to] Can't Post

Do you have LOTR items that are duplicates?
Do you love most your LOTR collectibles, T-shirts, etc., but some you don't love as much?
Are you looking to fill in some gaps of your LOTR stuff?
Do you want to eliminate some of your LOTR items to make way for Hobbit stuff?
Will you be going to NY for the FOTR concert in a few weeks?

Have we got a deal for you.

We are pleased to announce that the Friday night Mix-n-Mingle party will have a Swap Table that is open to everyone who will be in New York that weekend. Dig into the back of your closets, clear off your shelves, bring your LOTR items and swap with your fellow Moot-ers.

Not going to the party? Never fear - you are still eligible to participate. All you need to do is give your Swap item to anyone who is attending the Friday party, and consult with them about the items you are interested in acquiring. You are responsible for delivery of all Swap items.

We have a few items that generous friends of TORN have contributed, and they will be added to the Swap Table.

We are expecting that anyone who takes an item from the Swap Table will also contribute something. Whatever is left at the end of the evening is first come, first served.

We will also have a fun, challenging Trivia Contest with some outstanding prizes, but if you happen to win one of those prizes, and it's not as outstanding to you, of course you're welcome to add it to the Swap Table. The Trivia Contest is open only to those in attendance at the time the winners are announced.

Questions? Please respond to this message, or send a PM to: CAHobbit, deej, entmaiden or greendragon.

Each cloak was fastened about the neck with a brooch like a green leaf veined with silver.

`Are these magic cloaks? ' asked Pippin, looking at them with wonder.

`I do not know what you mean by that,' answered the leader of the Elves.



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Oct 4 2009, 12:52pm

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I love this idea!! *rummages in treasure boxes* // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



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I really need these new films to take me back to, and not re-introduce me to, that magical world.



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Oct 6 2009, 3:49pm

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Suggestions for Sightseeing [In reply to] Can't Post

Since we have so many TORN folk who are unfamiliar with New York, here are some suggestions for things to do. See Altaira's main post above for all the group activities, including a possible Circle Line tour and visit to Ground Zero.

Note that travel time must be considered. NY is a very large city, and moving around will take time!

Links:
Fodor's: http://www.fodors.com/world/north-america/usa/new-york/new-york-city/

Free NYC:
http://www.freenyc.net/

Official Tourism Site:
http://nycgo.com/

Subway map:
http://www.nysubway.com/map/

NY times Guide (best picks from the Times):
http://travel.nytimes.com/travel/guides/north-america/united-states/new-york/new-york-city/overview.html

Time Out New York: http://www.timeout.com/newyork/

Trip Advisor: New York City: http://www.tripadvisor.com/Tourism-g60763-New_York_City_New_York-Vacations.html

Suggested Activities:

Circle line Tour http://www.circleline42.com/site/default.aspx (watch Altaira's post for updates for the group outing)
Location and Directions http://www.circleline42.com/site/visitor_information.aspx
Estimated Time (inc'l travel time)
4 hours
Cost per Person
$34 for adults, $21 for children, $29 for seniors
Staten Island Ferry - this is a quick, FREE way to see the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island http://www.siferry.com/
Location and Directions 1 South Street, http://www.siferry.com/SIFerry_Schedules.aspx
Estimated Time (inc'l travel time)
3 hours
Cost per Person - FREE!
Empire State Building - www.esbnyc.com
Location and Directions 350 Fifth Avenue at 33rd
Estimated Time (inc'l travel time)
3 hours but this is dependent on the lines. You can save time by (a) buying tickets in advance and/or (b) purchasing express tickets for an extra fee
Cost per Person
86th floor observatory:
adults: $20
children (under 13) $14
seniors (62+) $18
Express Pass $45
102nd floor observatory add $15 (can not be purchased in advance)
Cloisters - http://www.metmuseum.org/cloisters/
Location and Directions 99 Margaret Corbin Drive, Fort Tyron Park
By Subway/Bus
Take the A train to 190th Street and exit the station by elevator. Walk north along Margaret Corbin Drive for approximately ten minutes or transfer to the M4 bus and ride north one stop. If you are coming from the Museum's Main Building, you may also take the M4 bus directly from Madison Avenue/83rd Street to the last stop. (Please allow more time for this option.) Although The Cloisters web site offers the option to take a bus, the natives strongly discourage it and tell me that the subway is the only way to get there.
Estimated Time (inc'l travel time)
6 hours (assuming 4 hours at the museum)
Cost per Person
Adults $20
Children under 12 - FREE
Seniors (65+) $15
Central Park http://www.centralparknyc.com
Location and Directions.
The park begins at 59th Street between Central Park West and Fifth Avenue, and extends north to 110th Street (there are approx. 10 blocks to the mile in NYC)
Estimated Time (inc'l travel time) -
Approx 1 hour travel time, round trip, plus the time you want to spend in the park
Cost per person.
Admission to the park is FREE, however some of the attractions like the Central Park Zoo charge a fee.
Statue of Liberty http://www.nps.gov/STLI/index.htm
Location and Directions Located approx 1 mile from Lower Manhattan, accessible by ferry (the same ferry docks at Ellis Island) http://www.nps.gov/stli/planyourvisit/publictransportation.htm
Estimated Time (inc'l travel time) NOTE: If you take a ferry later than 2 pm, you will only have time for either the Statue or Ellis Island, not both. For Liberty Island only, allow about 5 hours including travel to and from hotel. For both Liberty Island and Ellis Island, allow 7-8 hours
Cost per person
Adult $12 ($20 with audio tour) + $3 for Crown ticket
Senior $10 ($17.25 with audio tour + $3 for Crown ticket
Children 4-12 $5 ($12.25 with audio tour) + $3 for Crown ticket
Ellis Island - millions of future Americans first had to go through Ellis Island. http://www.nps.gov/elis/index.htm
Location and Directions Located approx 1 mile from Lower Manhattan, accessible by ferry (the same ferry docks at Liberty Island) http://www.nps.gov/stli/planyourvisit/publictransportation.htm
Estimated Time (inc'l travel time) NOTE: If you take a ferry later than 2 pm, you will only have time for either the Statue or Ellis Island, not both. For Ellis Island only, allow about 4 hours including travel to and from hotel. For both Liberty Island and Ellis Island, allow 7-8 hours
Cost per person
Adult $12
Senior over 62 $10
Children 4-12 $5

Shopping and Neighborhoods

South Street Seaport http://www.southstreetseaport.com/html/
Location and Directions Located in Lower Manhattan near the East River at Fulton and South Streets, Pier 17. For directions, go to http://www.southstreetseaport.com/html/malldirections.asp
Estimated Time (inc'l travel time) Approximately 1 hour round trip for transportation, plus time spent at the Seaport
Cost per person. Entrance is FREE, but of course there are dozens of shopping and dining options, so hang on to your credit card!
Soho http://www.sohonyc.com/
Location and Directions. Soho is a shortened name for South of Houston (pronounced Howston, not Hueston). It's a wonderful neighborhood of galleries, shops, restaurants and picturesque streets that's located in Lower Manhattan. http://manhattan.about.com/od/neighborhoodguide/a/sohoguide.htm
Estimated Time (inc'l travel time) - Allow approx 1 hour for round-trip travel time on public transportation and 2-3 hours to wander the streets and do some shopping.
Cost per person - FREE to visit
Fifth Avenue. This is classic NYC shopping and all the big names can be found here. http://www.aviewoncities.com/nyc/fifthavenue.htm
Location and Directions. The big shopping and window-gazing is along Fifth Avenue between 49th and 59th streets. It's a fairly easy walk from the hotel.
Estimated Time (inc'l travel time) - 1/2 hour transportation to and from hotel, then at least 1 -2 hours browsing time
Cost per person - well, it's always free to look Wink
Greenwich Village - once the hangout for the bohemian artists and musicians, Greenwich Village still holds some of its old vibe, but now is much more upscale with lots of sightseeing and shopping opportunities http://www.nycgv.com/
Location and Directions Located in the northern part of Lower Manhattan, Greenwich Village is below 14th Street and west of Broadway. It is easily accessible from several subway stations. http://www.nycgv.com/map.asp
Estimated Time (inc'l travel time). Allow approximately 1 hour for round trip travel, then 2-3 hours for walking around and shopping
Cost per person - FREE

Museums for a rainy day
: http://nyc.gov/portal/site/nycgov/menuitem.5344998baa00eff6a62fa24601c789a0/

Walking Tours http://www.manhattanwalks.com/?gclid=CPjGhJvv5ZwCFSUMDQodfFb3FQ
Location and Directions - tours start at various locations depending on the tour selected
Estimated Time (inc'l travel time) Each tour takes 2-3 hours, and travel time should be estimated at 1 hour round trip for each tour
Cost per person - Cost is calculated on a group basis and is $90 for a minimum of 6 people ($15 per person). Each additional person is $15

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