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What 'Locations' in YOUR Country would suit the Hobbit Movie??
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CuChulainn
The Shire

Jul 2 2009, 8:02pm

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What 'Locations' in YOUR Country would suit the Hobbit Movie?? Can't Post

Just a general thought. I know of various locations in my own Country- 'Ireland' that would make wonderful locations in the Hobbit movie. What locations though in your own country, whether it be America, England, Canada etc would make great locations for the Hobbit movie?

I know Middle Earth is effectively based on Europe, which the likes of Ireland and England would suit, it would be interesting to see what people would deem fit that exists in their own locale.
Who knows? maybe we could influence the great Del Toro to consider similar areas to the ones picked here with those in N.Z.... if they exist.
I'll start it off.

The Lonely Mountain- (Real Location, Mount Errigal- County Donegal, Ireland):



The Lonely Mountain- (Real Location, Mount Errigal- County Donegal, Ireland, Continued.....):



The Misty Mountains- (Real Location, The Magillycuddy Reeks, County Kerry, Ireland):



The Misty Mountains- (Real Location, The Magillycuddy Reeks, County Kerry, Ireland, Continued):



Lake Town- (Real Location- Glendalough, County Wicklow, Ireland)




I've many others. But I'll see how it goes.


EmynArnenLady
Rivendell


Jul 2 2009, 10:33pm

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Well.... [In reply to] Can't Post

There are a couple of places here I can think of:

The Misty Mountains (Real Location: The Rocky Mountains, CO) Beautiful mountain range that takes up half of my former native state...gosh I miss those peaks...


The Lonely Mountain (Real Location: Mount Monadnock, NH) Ok, so it's not a REALLY big mountain but it's the only "mountain" surrounded by a hill-y area (which, btw, reminds me a lot of Emyn Arnen Tongue). This is the mountain I climed a few weeks ago with 'Boo' that is about an hour away from where we live. It's named the most climbed mountain in the world, Cool, eh?


Goblin Caves (Real Location: Cave of the Winds, CO) Well, they probably wouldn't actually be able to film in there but to me it would make a great location. I've been there a few times and it's a really beautiful mazed of caverns and caves. This photo doesn't really do it justice, you really would have to visit there youself! Chick it out on the web for more info.


That's about all I can think of for now. Maybe I'll think of more later. This was a great idea you had!

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Compa_Mighty
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Jul 2 2009, 11:42pm

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Nice idea! [In reply to] Can't Post

Although I believe mods will ask you to size down your pictures.

Anyway, if Oscarilbo or even Guillermo himself come by, they won't let me lite when I tell you there are few locations in Mexico that would perfectly suit Middle-earth. It's an entirely different latitude and with the height above see level in which most of the country stands, we simply don't have much that resembles England, Ireland or New Zealand. However, I may show some pics of places that could very well be used for Middle-earth with some post-production.

I'll use links:

The Cacahuamilpa Caves for the Goblins' Halls, these are in central Mexico, in one of the warmest zones of the country:
http://www.mexicovacationtravels.com/...ahuamilpa-cavern.jpg
http://consultaeventos.com/...tas-cacahuamilpa.jpg
http://www.conanp.gob.mx/...tas_cacahuamilpa.jpg
http://canadiense.net/.../images/img_1043.jpg
http://axitia.com/...ges/db_DSC003571.jpg

Or how about the Orizaba Peak for Lonely Mountain? This is the tallest mountain in North America. It's one of the many volcanoes in Mexico. The Aztecs called it Citlaltepetl, The Mountain of the Star. It is in Veracruz, a state that faces the Gulf of Mexico.
http://cij.reduaz.mx/.../images/orizaba2.jpg
http://www.mexicoalternativo.net/...o%20de%20Orizaba.jpg
http://mexicomystic.files.wordpress.com/.../04/pico-orizaba.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/.../Pico_de_Orizaba.jpg

Or maybe The Orizaba Peak is really Zirak-Zigil?
http://www.danbaileyphoto.com/orizabaprint.jpg

And This isn't Middle-earth like, but it's a beautiful shot of the Mountain!
http://img245.imageshack.us/...codeorizabab8qw.jpg/

Or perhaps Peña de Bernal for The Carrock? Peña de Bernal is the largest monolithic rock in the world. Actually, the name would be gramatically wrong, since in Spanish both "peña" and "bernal" stand for that kind of monolithic rock. This one is also in central Mexico.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/...e:Pena_de_Bernal.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/...685_9d6502c4b0_b.jpg
http://queretaro.metroblogmexico.com/...9/pena_de_bernal.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/...1/peadebernalzq5.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/...lapeadebernalqg9.jpg


A couple pics of how it looks from the beautiful town:
http://sepiensa.org.mx/...atin/img/bernal1.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/.../bse546s34634zf5.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/.../2459/bs34563hg2.jpg

And many more pics from the town and the Rock:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=477210

Hope you like this!

Here's to Del Toro becoming the Irvin Kershner of Middle Earth!

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Ataahua
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Jul 3 2009, 12:24am

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Pretty photos, but please keep them to TORN's image guidelines. [In reply to] Can't Post

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Evernight
Rivendell


Jul 3 2009, 1:47am

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Let's see... [In reply to] Can't Post

The Andes from Rio Negro to Tierra del Fuego for the eastern side of the Misty Mountains, from Rio Negro to Jujuy for the western side:

http://www.barbara-neeb.de/...untry/ArgFitzRoy.jpg
http://www.sietepuntasdigital.com/...ua_plaza_francia.jpg

Bosque de Arrayanes near Bariloche for Mirkwood:

http://www.bariloche.com.ar/...%20Arrayanes%203.jpg
http://www.bariloche.com.ar/...%20Arrayanes%202.jpg

In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit...

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Compa_Mighty
Tol Eressea


Jul 3 2009, 2:41am

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I actually thought of the Andes for the Eagles' lair... [In reply to] Can't Post

I didn't know you were Argentinian! I thought we weren't represented in South America. I'm glad I was wrong. How much of the Andes are actually in Argentina? Do they constitute a good part of the border with Chile? I only remember political maps, not terrain ones.

Nice pics. Smile

Here's to Del Toro becoming the Irvin Kershner of Middle Earth!

Essay winner of the Show us your Hobbit Pride Giveway!


guitarzankansasfan
Lorien


Jul 3 2009, 11:14am

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The Andes are a fantastic location [In reply to] Can't Post

Growing up in Utah, I thought I knew mountains. Then I lived in Peru for awhile, including 5 months in Cusco, and that really changed my opinion. I visited the Sacred Valley a few times. On the road in there, the mountains look twice as tall as the ones in Utah (and probably are-- The city of Cusco itself is as high up as some of Utah's highest mountains) and the canyons twice as deep. The scale is immense.

Unfortunately, now I'm stuck in west Texas, where it's flat as a pancake. I don't recall Bilbo going through miles of cotton fields to get to the Lonely Mountain, so I think it rules out my current location for "The Hobbit".

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Annael
Half-elven


Jul 3 2009, 2:16pm

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Okay, I'll play [In reply to] Can't Post

how about Liberty Bell Mountain in the North Cascades for the Eagle's Lair?

The Skagit River for the Forest River?

The Hoh River rain forest for Mirkwood?

Mount Washington for the Lonely Mountain?

Diablo Lake for Lake Esgaroth?


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squire
Half-elven


Jul 3 2009, 4:41pm

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'Locations' in my County for The Hobbit [In reply to] Can't Post

What a great topic! There’s actually tons of locations in my County that would work for The Hobbit movie. Let’s start at the beginning:


The bikeway tunnel under Route 134 in Kitchawan. So obviously right for Bag End that it practically seals the whole deal right from the get-go!



For the rest of the Shire they’d have to use two locations, but they’re only about 10 miles apart – nothing for a major film! The Muscoot Farm museum (left) has pigs and everything already, they wouldn’t have to ship them in. And the Sleepy Hollow Restoration – well is that a water mill or what? And it works, too!


Lyndhurst Castle in Tarrytown would be perfect for Rivendell!


The Hudson Highlands are always misty, especially in the late fall. Imagine Bilbo and the Dwarves struggling through these Misty Mountains passes!


Although the entire county is heavily wooded, your best bet for Mirkwood is probably the Mianus River Preserve which is virgin wilderness, I believe. I even found some dwarf stand-ins to help you see how perfect the trails there would be.
And the Forest River location comes with it:


Don’t forget the Elven Halls! The bikeway comes to the rescue again – this is the underpass for I-87 in Elmsford:


Now we get to the good parts. Long Lake is obviously the Tappan Zee. Even though it’s salt water, trust me the audience will not know. And the bridge can be “matted out”, I’m almost certain.



Laketown again requires a company move, just a few miles across the county to City Island (technically in the Bronx).



Remember the ruined piers of the earlier town? Already done – money saved!


Finally, the big one: The Lonely Mountain. 831-foot high Turkey Mountain in Yorktown is the highest peak in Westchester and works amazingly well as Erebor if you keep the power lines out of the shots. Doesn’t the sunset here make you think of the Fire of the Dragon?


Well, as you can see, they could probably make the whole movie just in Westchester County, and save a ton of money that could be used for a third, fourth and fifth prequel movie like we all want!



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DiveTwin
Rohan


Jul 3 2009, 4:48pm

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Yes [In reply to] Can't Post


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How much of the Andes are actually in Argentina? Do they constitute a good part of the border with Chile? I only remember political maps, not terrain ones.

The long western border of Argentina runs along the Andes and effectively cuts down through the mountain chain itself to seperate Chile and Argentina. Was in both countries over the holidays and the mountain range (especially the fiords at the southern tip along with Cape Horn) are spectacular. I'm a Chicago boy so I'm it's not like getting the answer from a native - but I'm also looking at a world map on my wall as well!

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Evernight
Rivendell


Jul 3 2009, 5:06pm

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Andes. [In reply to] Can't Post


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I didn't know you were Argentinian! I thought we weren't represented in South America. I'm glad I was wrong. How much of the Andes are actually in Argentina? Do they constitute a good part of the border with Chile? I only remember political maps, not terrain ones.

Nice pics. Smile



Most, if not all of our borders with Chile (almost 3500 kilometers, there are a few kms of sea borders between Santa Cruz and Tierra del Fuego with Chile) are constituted by the Andes. Half the Andes are in Chile, the other half in Argentina. It's highest mountain, the Aconcagua, is in Argentina.
The Andes (both sides of it, the argentinian side and the chilean side) are quite similar to the Misty Mountains, specially in Patagonia, where the mountains are more misty. Tongue

I live in Buenos Aires, so unfortunately I'm a bit far from any location resembling Middle Earth (except for the Pampas, quite similar to the flat regions of The Shire, and with excellent grass for the horses of Rohan), though luckly I've travelled a lot and I know 90% of my country.

In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit...

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Ataahua
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Jul 3 2009, 9:52pm

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Love the Elven halls, squire. [In reply to] Can't Post

Defensible *and* practical!

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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dernwyn
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Jul 4 2009, 12:56pm

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And so close to Tolkien's conception! [In reply to] Can't Post

Notice the amazing similarity:



As for the Tappan Zee becoming Long Lake: having had frequent experience with the I-287 bridge across that widening of the Hudson River, I would find it rather amusing to keep the bridge intact at the beginning, and have it be the one destroyed by the Men of the New York Highway Department Lake-town! I mean, with it undergoing what seems like constant repair, it's already partly-destroyed, anyway...


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Eruthurin
Rivendell


Jul 4 2009, 1:41pm

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Wow.... [In reply to] Can't Post

Excellent pics Compa Mighty!....

And there's more in our country.... much more.... what about El cañón del sumidero as the river Anduin?....
all the southeast and the forests in the center are great for good locations!....

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CuChulainn
The Shire

Jul 4 2009, 3:46pm

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VERY NICE [In reply to] Can't Post

Woops, sorry about the extra large pic earlier.

Anyway, some nice places there! It would be nice if we could have some sort of influence or further 'real life' inspirations on what the Hobbit movie team can come up with for locales in NZ or CGI.
More.....

Misty Mountains (Real Location: Macgillycuddy Reeks from a distance and diff angle, County Kerry, Ireland- Again...)



Lonely Mountain 1 (Real Location: Again the real life very lonely- Mount Errigal, County Donegal, Ireland)



Lonely Mountain (Real Location: From Distance- Mount Errigal, County Donegal, Ireland)



Lonely Mountain (Real Location: From Distance and diff angle - Mount Errigal, County Donegal, Ireland)


The Shire (Real Location: Ballymacdermot, County Armagh, Ireland)




AlatarVinyamar
Lorien

Jul 5 2009, 9:33am

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Amazing [In reply to] Can't Post

You know what CuChulainn, I've been visiting Donegal every year since I was born, sometimes twice or three times a year, and I've never been to Errigal. I think I'll make a point of it this year. And you're right, its a perfect Erebor. Thanks for pointing it out.


Idril Celebrindal
Tol Eressea


Jul 6 2009, 3:23pm

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Pennsylvania Dutch farms remind me of the Shire [In reply to] Can't Post

These lovely pastoral scenes are common in Amish and Mennonite communities in central and northwestern Pennsylvania. They always make me think of the Shire!




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Idril Celebrindal
Tol Eressea


Jul 6 2009, 3:37pm

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Pittsburgh's Two Towers [In reply to] Can't Post

Pittsburgh's US Steel skyscraper would be a dandy location for Orthanc. Perhaps the White Council could meet there!



And PPG Place would be a cool stand-in for Minas Tirith (or possibly the Elvish tower on the border of the Shire). I'm sure GDT could work this in somehow.




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Anorien
Rohan


Jul 7 2009, 12:45am

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Good question [In reply to] Can't Post

 

The Lord of the Fellowship of the Return of the Two Towers of the Hobbit King of the Rings...with the Silmarillion!



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carrioncrow
Lorien

Jul 7 2009, 10:33pm

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Dol Guldur ? [In reply to] Can't Post

I can't link directly to an image, but below is a link to a story with a picture of a most curious local building.

It is a very imposing private tower/mansion built by a local eccentric millionaire who lost everything and ended up in either the a mental hospital or prison (i can't remember which) .

Supposedly the initial inspiration for this odd duck came from Tolkien..I don't know which Tolkien Tower it was supposed to be , Orthanc? Baraddur?...it is quite impressive and visible for miles. It is locate on high ground in a bend of the Conodiquinet Creek and at the foot of Blue Mountain Ridge in the 'Great Valley' area of Pennsylvania. The surrounding scenery is really quite beautiful (the article's photo doesn't do it justice)....but it is also ridculously close to the I-81 which sort spoils the sense of 'make believe'. The guy who did this had a screw loose, and i think the local municipality has put regs in place to prevent the tower from ever being completed and occupied...in fact, i think any purchaser of the property must agree to demolish trhe tower which is one reason the property has been in limbo for 20 years.

http://cumberlink.com/articles/2009/01/05/news/local/doc49621e6df3a3f628457270.txt


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carrioncrow
Lorien

Jul 7 2009, 10:36pm

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As for Pittsburgh Landmarks [In reply to] Can't Post


The Cathedral of Learning deserves a mention. A one-of a kind


Ataahua
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Jul 7 2009, 11:08pm

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Sorry Anorien, [In reply to] Can't Post

you'll have to resize your first two photos to the TORN guidelines (see my earlier post in this thread) and repost them - your originals were really oversized.

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Eowyn of Penns Woods
Valinor


Jul 8 2009, 5:24am

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Yep, nobody is more hobbity than the Amish! [In reply to] Can't Post

The beautiful farms, horse-drawn buggies and plows, harvesting without machinery, the love of color (and I've seen some mighty bright shirts worn with those sober black trousers and suspender), the often bare feet, love of pipeweed and good simple food, shorter stature...

I'm very fond of the Kishacoquillas Valley


but other areas of Central/South-central Pennsylvania, even the non-Amish and Mennonite farms, look very much like the Shire.

We can even throw in the famous Round Barn near Gettysburg [snagged from somebody's flicker album---don't feel like looking for mine to scan]

since hobbits like things round. =)


Twit
Lorien

Jul 8 2009, 10:48am

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The Cotswolds [In reply to] Can't Post

in England, makes me think of The (Gloucester) Shire and Rohan, depending on where you go.


BlueMan
Rivendell


Jul 8 2009, 1:05pm

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I adore the fact that you chose a bikeway for the entrance of the Elvish halls!! [In reply to] Can't Post

That's so great! Cool

Btw ... when I look at those images I want to travel to those places very badly!! It's so beautiful everywhere!!

Raptos a diis homines dici ...

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