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diedye
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Jun 23 2009, 12:34am
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10-year-old boy fights to save hotel where Tolkien wrote part of LOTR...
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The Three Cups is destined to be converted into flats.
Hmm... maybe he should start a web petition... it would certainly garner a lot of signatures from Tolkien geeks...
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For they are the ones who let in the light!
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dernwyn
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Jun 23 2009, 3:47am
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Well...he did not actually write there...
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I appreciate the young man's fevor, but as I'd mentioned in an earlier post: that place was where Tolkien engaged in artistic endeavours, not writing.
When Tolkien and his brother were under the care of Father Francis, he would take them there for summer holiday. Tolkien loved the landscape of that area, and did a considerable amount of sketching, drawing, and painting of it.
Later, he would take his own family there on holiday, and he continued with this hobby. But there is no record, as far as I know, of him actually writing any of The Hobbit or LotR there!
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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"
"It struck me last night that you might write a fearfully good romantic drama, with as much of the 'supernatural' as you cared to introduce. Have you ever thought of it?"
-Geoffrey B. Smith, letter to JRR Tolkien, 1915
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Fruit of Laurelin
Ossiriand
Jun 23 2009, 6:43am
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I don't personally care about it
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He did some art there, big deal. I don't think we need to worship every building Tolkien went into or every bit of ground he stood on. He was a wonderful writer, but still, he was only human like the rest of us. It's still very sweet of the biy though.
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One Ringer
Dor-Lomin
Jun 23 2009, 12:23pm
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The mere fact that he's taking a stand for something he believes in is inspiring. For crying out loud, it's a ten-year-old boy leading a march to save a hotel. That's gotta count for something.
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Mark Sommer
Ossiriand
Jun 24 2009, 2:12am
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Although it is highly doubtful that Tolkien wrote The Hobbit or The Lord of the Rings at the Three Cups, he did stay there. It is likely that the region was an influence on his concept of The Shire.
This is not a new issue. Andrew Townsend, who has been writing about The Hobbit for HollywoodJesus.com, created a Blog, "Save The Three Cups," back in 2004. http://save3cups.blogspot.com/
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Tolkien Forever
Mithlond
Jun 24 2009, 3:52am
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JRR Tolkien is hardly George Washington
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Tolkien Forever
Mithlond
Jun 24 2009, 1:43pm
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Come on now.....
You are comparing writing a couple books to founding a country?
That's just not right.
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Tolkien Forever
Mithlond
Jun 24 2009, 10:56pm
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I'm just saying.....
The thing is, the dude trying to save the tavern/inn/whatever is dead serious. 
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Mark Sommer
Ossiriand
Jun 25 2009, 12:20am
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What's wrong with preserving historical buildings? The Inn has more connections to it than just Tolkien. Recently, the town council had a meeting with the people of the town who voted (unanimously, if I remember correctly) to preserve the building. I don't understand your negativity.
Mark Sommer
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Tolkien Forever
Mithlond
Jun 25 2009, 5:30am
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Present it as being a building with 'historical connections' other than Tolkien....
To simply save a building because Tolkien hung out there and drank a few beers is a bit too much.
Fantastic that the guy wrote some fantastic books - my favorite books written by man in fact.
That's not being negative, it's being realistic.
But to accord the same type of honor as 'George Washington slept here' to a building for a writer is absurd.
England has plenty of its own real heroes to honor for that type of stuff with their long and storied history.....
I could certainly see 'Admiral Nelson slept here' or 'Winston Churchill slept here' for example.
Saving a building that has historical signifigance, great, it's done all the time for much lesser things, like a building just being really old (at least where I'm from).
I certainly have no problem with that.
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the smidget
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Jun 25 2009, 7:35pm
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Hi im the boy fighting to save the three cups 
I think the 3 cups is important because some rich blokes think they can neglect this building.
I dont want to loose that history.Once it is gone it is gone forever.
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Ataahua
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Jun 25 2009, 7:52pm
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Good luck in your efforts to save the Three Cups, smidget. Would you mind keeping us updated with your progress? I'm sure there are a few people on the discussion boards who would like to know how this goes.
Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
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silneldor
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Jun 25 2009, 11:14pm
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valiant young master *bow low*.
It is wishful that you are successful in your efforts and that you will bring tidings of the happenings. Thank you very much for stopping in.
''What connects Nature to the spiritual, or requires the presence of the latter? In positive terms, as Alkis Kontos points out, when nature was still largely experienced as integral, alive and active, 'It was the spiritual dimension of the world, its enchanted, magical quality that rendered it infinite, not amenable to complete calculability; spirit could not be quanified; it permitted and invited mythologization.' And I would add, it still is and does.''
Patrick Curry-Defending Middle-Earth-Tolkien: Myth and Modernity - chapter: 'The Sea: Spirituality and Ethics.'
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In the air, among the clouds in the sky
Here is where the birds of Manwe fly
Looking at the land, and the water that flows
The true beauty of earth shows
With the stars of Varda lighting my way
In all the realms this is where I stay
In the realm of Manwë Súlimo
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Peredhil lover
Doriath
Jun 26 2009, 6:26pm
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Nice to meet you!
You've not chosen an easy task, but it is great that you try to save that building. Good luck!
I do not suffer from LotR obsession - I enjoy every minute of it.
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grammaboodawg
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Jun 26 2009, 8:43pm
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You are absolutely right... and I'm proud of you for sticking to your guns. I'm so glad you've come to join us here and to let us know about it. You're awesome! Best of luck on your quest :)
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I really need these new films to take me back to, and not re-introduce me to, that magical world.
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the smidget
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Jun 27 2009, 10:24pm
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did you know that the first time Tolkien ever used his monogram was in a drawing he did in the 3 cups wen he was 12.
He was very good at drawing.
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dernwyn
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Jun 28 2009, 12:27am
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they have any reproductions of his drawings on their walls? Tolkien loved the scenery of that area, and those would make a fantastic display!
And welcome to TORn, smidget!
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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"
"It struck me last night that you might write a fearfully good romantic drama, with as much of the 'supernatural' as you cared to introduce. Have you ever thought of it?"
-Geoffrey B. Smith, letter to JRR Tolkien, 1915
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