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FOTR EE Appendices Discussion - Weta Workshop - part 3-1 - Armour

simplyaven
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Jun 12 2009, 6:53pm

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Hello TORNsibs, this is the third discussion from the WETA workshop series and I am posting here images of Armour. This section will be separated into two subthreads as there are too many interesting caps and I can't leave any of them behind. Blush Thank you for stopping by and welcome to the wonderful world of WETA! Smile And Happy Friday!

here are some drawings for those of you who, like me, haven't been able to notice the details on the real armour:









What impresses me most is again the way they thought of these costumes and weapons like they were going to be used for real, if you know what I mean. Every single detail is made to exist and be useful in a real battle. Richard Taylor even shares that most of the actors preferred to use the true, steel weapons and not the rubber ones which I believe was part of this reality they were all living in - the Middle Earth reality and not ours. Now, can anyone tell me who is who on the last cap? I think the first one is Elf, but the other ones I can't guess. Blush

Next, we go to the smiths' corner where a real fire was on all the time!



And acidic mixture was used to "eat" the metal and make it look old and damaged in battles:



I just wanted to share my admiration because in this case I think they walked not one but lots of extra miles. Two smiths working above a real fire and using real hammers to work the metal while hot - well, that's over the top, isn't it? In my opinion, the amount of work put into these weapons was one of the reasons why they were so appreciated by the actors. Something related to "I put my soul in it" and the way such work affects other people.

And at the end, someone has to walk in this! Any ideas how much this weighs? Or how hot it is inside? I think this is a heroism itself to fight dressed like that! Crazy







And again, I want to point out the decoration of even the under armour which is not seen usually - there is kind of a lace decoration, the bad guys have their armour "eaten" by the acid, all is designed to speak itself! Amazing! *Off to post the second one* Cool

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weaver
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Jun 13 2009, 1:01am

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John Howe, IIRC, is an expert of sorts on armor, isn't he? Is it this feature with the shot of him in a full suit of armor? I can't recall...but I do think he had a great deal of influence on the finer points of making this stuff...

I, too, really got a kick out of the fact that they actual smiths in the 'armory". In RL, I do some work with re-enactors (1700-1800' era/US and Canadian). The guys who do blacksmithing that I know would be thrilled to have a chance to work on a project that valued the skills they have perfected as part of trying to understand and present life in another time.

Does anyone know if these two smiths on the crew were part of the reforging of Narsil into Anduril, on screen? Now that would be the ultimate!

Thanks for the mighty fine images! What a treat!


Weaver





OhioHobbit
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Jun 13 2009, 4:53pm

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Richard Taylor even shares that most of the actors preferred to use the true, steel weapons and not the rubber ones which I believe was part of this reality they were all living in - the Middle Earth reality and not ours.


That is probably how Viggo got his tooth broken and Bernard Hill ended up having to get several stitches in his ear. Oh well, boys canít play without getting hurt. Wink

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simplyaven
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Jun 14 2009, 1:17am

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Yes, John Howe is an expert and a fan:



And your idea about the two smiths reforging Anduril in the movie is brilliant, weaver!!! Now I'm dying to find out but don't recall anything about it in the Appendices... Unsure I'm very happy you enjoyed the images! Heart

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simplyaven
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Jun 14 2009, 1:19am

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Right! Boys play hard! Cool

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weaver
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Jun 14 2009, 1:21am

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I "thought"Howe was an armor expert/fan, but didn't have time to go back and check the DVD to find out for sure...thanks for confirming it!

He looks pretty good in armor, doesn't he?Smile

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simplyaven
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Jun 14 2009, 1:29am

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He has this knight-ish glow around him :) Reminds me of Don Quixote // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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weaver
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Jun 14 2009, 1:56am

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I knew he reminded me of someone in that outfit -- you nailed it.

He's such a thin guy, and with that hair, he does look like some of the illustrations of Don Quixote...nice!

Weaver





grammaboodawg
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Jun 22 2009, 4:55pm

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I have to smile as I picture them in orc outfits in the dungeons of Isengard working on the Uruk-hai weapons.


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Now, can anyone tell me who is who on the last cap? I think the first one is Elf, but the other ones I can't guess


I'm thinking those armoured gauntlets and leg-gear are either for Nazgul or the Mouth of Sauron. They seem to be the ones that work that type of layer... also scale-like... design. I think a lot of that design came from John Howe. I know he's quite prolific at medieval armour and weapons, and he talks in the commentaries about having trouble getting his full-armour pieces onto the plane ;)


Walking in that stuff? Especially in the summer!? Do we now know what a can of tuna feels like? *shudder* Even if they were wearing the light-weight plastic replicas of the real armour... you'd cook!!



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